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Media => Other Tremulous Media => Topic started by: + OPTIMUS + on April 08, 2008, 01:23:54 am

Title: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist (dialup nuke)
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on April 08, 2008, 01:23:54 am
I've already sent some personal messages about my concept to some of the forum members. I'm also going to do further requests to others and to theese people also, and I'd like to update this topic as I'm reaching further levels in develpoement.
this community is my closest connection for sharing toughts about computer gaming, that's why i'm asking your help. iT's also very independent and it's in incognito, so it's a very good way to get independent toughts what i can integrate into my serious projec.
my concept is about showing a very raw and explicit side of computer gaming to the public by the way (not btw) of an interactive comic, wich is going to be the most important work of mine so far in my life.

so.. i'll EDIT and EDIT and EDIT, and i really need your help. I'll insert my sketches and links here as soon as i'll have them.

[EDIT]: my picture linkis broke so i re-spam all of them here in one
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/15/91/0009/pic-03017279-ad9ee7.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/15/91/0009/pic-03005238-a20964.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-02990059-e25113.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03012511-88e90d.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03016662-db7abf.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03019121-e92a54.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-02990940-e9a28b.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03003894-bad5a3.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03003895-005c5b.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03021788-cb75ac.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03021785-44a58e.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03005654-de3e2c.jpg)
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/usrimg/43/07/0008/pic-03021787-c28e53.jpg)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: gareth on April 08, 2008, 09:56:01 am
 ???
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on April 08, 2008, 10:51:33 am
So you want to make some kind of animated comic (which is also a game) ?
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Lava Croft on April 08, 2008, 11:57:47 am
From what I understand it will be an interactive comic. I think this means a comic in which you might be able to click on certain parts of the comic to trigger certain actions.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on April 08, 2008, 12:54:14 pm
true, theese "triggers" are going to switch the look of the comic within an iconic and a manual graphic style (what is represented on the sketches).
the main character, who's one day is going to be represented, is an eeer... "ideally perfect gamer" who's reality is inside gaming or certain things in life that makes him feel good. meanwhile, the "normal" things in life appears to him as icons, symbols and datas wich he cannot really handle like others do.
for an example, people on a bus appers as a simple "tetris", where the crowd is trying to fit perfectly - while playing real tetris makes him to flash into the game, so he imagines the simple pixel blocks as enormous rocks falling from the skies, and he imagines himself as a warlock who is controlling theese by his magical runepower. this will show up as a console game where you select your mage first like in street fighter or more like final fight, then you enter the game and rocks are starting to fall from heavens.
it would be neat to create minigames like this inside, but theese will be only tiny animations just to show the feeling of it.

so same analogy will go for super mario where those tiny pixelturtles will be huge monsters with hammers, wings, and other stuffs just like in the game, and also for tremulous. also, pushing a shopping "car" (idn the name in english, that wire stuff that you put the stuffs in the shopping maul) will make him to feel like in an action game with space ships, and well, sitting on a toilet will make him to feel like sitting in an enourmous mecha, wielding a raging war against invaders, where the gamer mercenary army will be the elite robot controllers, because they have only the reflex and skill to drive them (so as they fight night and day, they don'T have time to go to toilet, thats why the mecha has its built-in one).

i know theese stuffs sounds crazy but thats the aim :-)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on April 08, 2008, 02:44:07 pm
Ahh ok.

And you want ideas for the plot or for how to do this thing ?
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on April 08, 2008, 03:45:40 pm
I want to show the process like in a blog and i'm curious about the community's opinion.
the main topic is gaming so it's about "us" in a way.
I've already asked some personal helps and i have some issues in my mind what would need some personal help also, depending on how do people like the stuff at all. i'm going to express things in a chaotic and edgy way on purpose.
Also, the language will be in english so i will need native translation, wich could be debated here in the view of style.

i'm trying to push the project really hard so i'll update drawings till weekend for sure.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Lava Croft on April 08, 2008, 04:18:56 pm
I would skip the blog if I was you. Blogs suck. Just stick to the work:)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on April 08, 2008, 04:28:35 pm
for me it's quite useful to write about what i think and to explain what i want to do in full sentences, so i get a more clear picture in myself.
i mostly have pullze pieces of my ideas floating around in the beer inside my head.
and many of the ideas were influenced while playing trem and during getting to know an internet gaming community, so its reactions would be interesting to hear.

and as i need help i need to show that i'm doing serious stuff, not just lurking around here to suck out people's email address :-)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on April 08, 2008, 07:09:36 pm
Ok I'm close at udnerstanding ;)

Something like this (http://poignantguide.net/ruby/) (but with pics with hyperlinks and stuff) but related to gaming?
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on April 09, 2008, 08:45:45 am
no, at first you wouldn't see the next picture at all. it would appear with a small animation as soon as you click on something. it's also not strictly linear, so depending on where you click, the different next picture you'll get.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on April 09, 2008, 05:59:17 pm
Ahh okiez.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Tycho on April 11, 2008, 12:32:45 pm
Got more pictures to show us? ;)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on April 15, 2008, 02:58:30 pm
i've had to play trough quake 2 to see the secret room in the secret room for a scene ^^
and i did most of the backgrounds also.
i disappeared a bit because i was thinking about the exact story :-)
Title: Re: +OPTI+ Needs your help in his diploma!
Post by: Tycho on May 21, 2008, 10:13:59 pm
+Opti+ just called me and said he needs help from you guys!
He needs a method to extract the music from the secret map in Quake2 for his diploma.

He has no net in his new flat yet so I had to ask you for him.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: sSopris on May 22, 2008, 07:06:31 pm
Whats the secret map's name?
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Lava Croft on May 22, 2008, 08:21:49 pm
Quake2's music is CD-audio, there is nothing to extract. If he means the loop from the pimp Tank Commander on boss2.bsp, that is just a .wav file, I think it's named xian.wav, or at least something with *xian* in the filename.

Apart from that, Quake2's assets are still the intellectual property of id Software, and therefore asking for and/or handing out said songs is not allowed on this forum.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Tycho on May 22, 2008, 09:22:12 pm
Don't blame me dude. I just asked it for him. I think he knows how to handle copyrights. (Or at least hope so he does...)  :)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Lava Croft on May 22, 2008, 09:38:45 pm
Don't blame me dude. I just asked it for him. I think he knows how to handle copyrights. (Or at least hope so he does...)  :)
After reading my post, I still do not see where I am blaming anyone for anything, I am merely trying to make sure that you don't run into trouble.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Bajsefar on May 22, 2008, 11:27:56 pm
Yay Optimus.
hrh
awesiome.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Tycho on May 23, 2008, 12:05:33 am
Don't blame me dude. I just asked it for him. I think he knows how to handle copyrights. (Or at least hope so he does...)  :)
After reading my post, I still do not see where I am blaming anyone for anything, I am merely trying to make sure that you don't run into trouble.
oh yeah, sorry  :) Poor choice of words.  8)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on May 25, 2008, 07:21:35 pm
I R BACK!!!

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-02989358-e25113.jpg)

wow, Lava fan club lol, i see while i was gone the dude took control over the community.

anyway thanks for the info, i start to guess that i am not an admin on my own computer because i can'T see certain things what i should and so on...

i need the loop from the secret end stage's secret stage, where the big mofo is with the two bitches and the two killmenow-dudes, because that will be a scene in my comic in a "different" way.
i can't find the map's contents anywhere and i tried to catch it with gtkradiant, what i succeeded one time but i don'T remember how. not to mention to export it.

but anyway i am just going to show it to friends who will remix it with some instruments so i think i am avoiding copyright issues.

at the same time i would like to know if anyone is composing 8-bit music (or sort of) here, because there are some empty slots on my soundtrack CD :-) remixes of the mentioned loop above, or Giana Sisters, Sonic:emerald hill zone and Wizard of Wor would be maximally appreciated :-)

good to be back.
Title: Re: we need bigger images!!!
Post by: player1 on May 26, 2008, 06:54:07 am
linkz plz
welcome back
missed ya
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on May 26, 2008, 01:18:30 pm
unfortunately i cannot link what do not exist yet :-)

my deadline is 12th of june, so i am in a hurry.

what i would need for the quake loop - what we are going to compose with a friend tonight - is the waves of what the guys are moaning on the side of the big boss (so the default suffering sounds of the soldiers who have been taken care by the strogg). i think we have to use it with some distirtion, because i just cant make up those epic texts :-)

i am afraid i have to upload things when i get to my workplace, because my data traffic is limited to 2GB, and only yesterday night i used up 860megs.

player1 i think i wrote you a PM someday did i? i am widely opened to anyone's opinions what a "perfect gamer" would be like, who makes his living by gaming and doing nothing else at all. i am trying to build up a kind of philosophy that he could have. i was thinking that he continues the 'cold war' frenzy inside himself as he fed on comics and cartoons what were made to boost up national morale. he is a fighter against the utophy where the AI could possibly take control over humanity (thats why he plays single player games categorizing AI behaviors). he is in the top 10 in every game from tetris trough starcraft or tremulous, to the newest and latest softwares, on every console. i wanna make his narrations a little bit big-headed but still calm, and very different from average.
like if "we"(dudes who plays [or were playing] i think at least 40 hours a week by average here) would be so good to make our living of games and gaming would be the most important in our life what would we be like? :-)
as my time is not endless i am going to make the following scenes:
1 - dream / that shows a fake old comic about the noon bells (i don't know what is your story but here they ring the bells of the churches at noon to remember that "our" army stopped the turkish army at belgrad)
2 - morning of the gamer / showing his room, following him in some super mario training or (interactive) following him to the toilet where he is going to explain that in future wars the gamers will control the giant mechas in 24/7 so their seats will be definitely toilets at once. he is going to take a brief look of the city (what is opposing the other scenes will show up as simple vector graphics, houses looking like computer windows), and he will eat some food - he eats only the stuffs what are good for minimum 3 years because he is preparing to some kind of apocalypse so he is doing "super size me" with cans and instant stuffs.
3 - journey / he takes a ride with local traffic to his friends, meanwhile he is playing tetris. he also stops at a shop because he is training to ride shopping cars what's behavior is theoretically similar to antigrav vehicles (like those scooters at star wars).
4 - meeting friends / this is the old swimming pool what looks like quake2 secret level's secret level on final countdown. there will be the geek bastards. the problem is i didn't found out why he is going there and what he will do there... maybe he will ask the same question from himself so he goes home to turn on his machine, what is a hybrid mac+pc sexacore (well that is for 6 cores does it) cooled by two huge ice blocks when booting.
5 - gaming / there will be the tremulous scene where he pawns some dudes but he meets suddenly a dude of his own kind that he has to face. they will fight ingame and with any tricks and dirty equipments irl like connecting to other's mobile phones, turning off local electricity, turning on car alarms in the area, and everything what can be theoretically achieved trough internet and dirty hacking.

that will be the comic roughly.

now back to work

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-02990940-e9a28b.jpg)

[EDIT]= my question to all of you is: is my english understandable? because i have to write the texts in english to show it to bigger audience, so i don't know if i need help to translate or is my "style" of writing satisfying? not this one of course but i dirted this forum enough to make it obvious to other nationalities if my visitors will break the monitor when reading it. my basic concept is to keep it in a "gamer" version of english, what is not as complex as the native but easy to read as its 'architecture' is somewhat familiar from games. (i guess many of us learned most of the phrases and words trough gaming).
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on May 26, 2008, 01:44:30 pm
omfg awsome.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Bajsefar on May 28, 2008, 12:21:28 am
Your english is fine.
Might want to write it down and get it corrected by someone though; it's not flawless. (English is not our mother language, after all.)
Title: Re: ur art is t3h awesome!!!
Post by: player1 on May 29, 2008, 06:22:22 pm
@OPTI: quite busy
sounds great
ur English is understandably gameresque, and quite appropriate to the piece
plz link to the final product
sry can't currently contribute more
many distractions
good luck
:) ;) :D ;D :P
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Bajsefar on May 29, 2008, 06:35:40 pm
Very excited to see some of this stuff. Sounds very cool. :D
So how you gonna make the tremulous fight scene, like it was real? Would be really cool! :>

GLHF!!
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on May 29, 2008, 08:03:55 pm
it's a main concept to make virtual stuffs look naturalist and irl stuff simplified, so probably it will be natural.
but iT's just gonna be 4-5 pictures as i have just 2 weeks left.
now i'm making the animation of the 1st scene of the total 5 :-S
i upload the swf somewhere tomorrow i guess.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 01, 2008, 12:50:56 pm
due limited upload capacity i won'T upload all but there are some screenies just to make it easier to imagine.

this is one of our historical heroes at the battle of belgrad (at that time: nándorfehérvár) for tycho: this fella is Kapisztrán János. since he is a priest, he is not using weapons but the heavy chained codex to hack and slash.
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03003894-bad5a3.jpg)

and this is the room of the gamer. quite organized and pure.
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03003895-005c5b.jpg)

now i go to draw the main character's friends in that quake room. the music become a bit shitty but well.... :-)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 01, 2008, 08:54:03 pm
and tonight about the "friends" scene.
with their pet:

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/15/91/0009/pic-03005238-a20964.jpg)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: mooseberry on June 01, 2008, 11:58:01 pm
Very nice drawings!
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 02, 2008, 03:07:40 am
i finished the main character's mates who will appear first as some kind of "battlecards" with their abilites, special powers and drawbacks.
special power i mean like if they can play very long without going to toilet (while at this area a drawback could be if they are alcoholics so they have to go out to pee every 5 minutes)

the names could be the following from left to right - i am not sure in any and suggestions would be welcomed - : qwakeup, slayermoon and... well i couldn'T find out any for the 3rd dude.
they will be in the same place and they will keep the foredrawn fishie in the pool what is similar to the quake2 secret room.

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03005654-de3e2c.jpg)

any silimarities with existing persons is merely coincidence, although when i was flustrated about choosing one of them from trem faces, my girlfriend pointed to one as a suggestion and i instantly agreed.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Tycho on June 02, 2008, 07:43:41 am
That is by far the best Lava pic on the forum :o :o :o ;D
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 02, 2008, 06:58:46 pm
first i just wanted to use the avatar but now i really don'T have time to think about characters for longer than 3 minutes.
anyway today i met the dude who will do the main speech about my work (more like judging it) and he liked it.
but i  want to change a name to bring him one step away from randomly finding what way i've done my researches, because swiftly infiltrating a community and being a semi-addict of a game are two different things :-)

i'd need maybe more funny names for them because thinking about funny things are not easy while the pendulum is swinging closer and closer every second :-)
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on June 02, 2008, 08:35:18 pm
I don't suggest using a swastika in a project
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 02, 2008, 09:01:57 pm
well i think i was the first and fiercest warrior against using it here at the forum.

but the context of the comic, whereby a crazy world of computer gaming addiction is shown, allows it to underline the strange behavior of the characters.
i will also mention it when speaking to the committee, and will explain that it is.. "based on a true story". as i will face teachers who probably never ever played computer games outside their cellphones, i have to make it a little bit edgy. i also have to mention the super mario characters, the dopefish, the commodore64, etc.
and well, i will have to explain tremulous also <.<
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Lava Croft on June 02, 2008, 09:27:57 pm
I don't suggest using a swastika in a project
Let's hope his teachers aren't as thick as the people on this forum.

@Optimus: Pretty drawings! I do never wear such bright clothing though.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: snb on June 02, 2008, 09:39:10 pm
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd226/snbtherealone/guiltyspark.png)maby this guy can be a character LOL
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: NiTRoX on June 02, 2008, 09:45:08 pm
its so funny ..
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 02, 2008, 10:27:44 pm
@Lava: bright colors are heightening your fine bone structure. otherwise the teachers ARE thick, you would be quite disappointed to hear that conversations within them are not so far from some unhealthy fights at this forum. but as long as i can keep the subject complicated enough in their eyes, the mysteries are on my side. give yourself a nick plz so i can use the slayermoon for the other dude!

@snb: i am struggling with limited downloading capacities and i turn on pictures for useful purposes only. there will be no robots exlcluding the on already presented as mentioned on the page before.
however if i'll have time and company supported surfing time (job) i will check out your pics at your thread.
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: infy on June 03, 2008, 07:49:18 pm
Very nice drawings, good luck with your project.  ;)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Lava Croft on June 03, 2008, 09:15:01 pm
@Optimus: Siqboy
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 03, 2008, 11:16:25 pm
@Optimus: Siqboy

they already associate my skinny appeariance with using hard drugs so i would like to avoid further links to trainspotting :-)))
otherwise my friend's mum who tried organize his son's VHSs was taking a look of the film (for a half minute) and she confidently wrote "sick boys" to the cassette :-)
otherwise why not, but i wanted something more "quakish" as i am not so experienced in its online form.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 05, 2008, 02:02:29 am
tonight's update: the computer of the main character

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03012510-8255d7.jpg)

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03012511-88e90d.jpg)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Kaleo on June 05, 2008, 02:57:35 am
Just curious; what programs do you use to make your images. They look a bit like they're renders.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 05, 2008, 12:39:50 pm
Just curious; what programs do you use to make your images. They look a bit like they're renders.

yippee, that's what i was waiting for ^^ happy to hear that.
they are looking like render on purpose, but they are completely made by hand (well i use ruler for long straight lines but thats all). i draw it with pencil, than i  outline with plain black ballpoint pen. the colors are digital with a wacom tablet in PS.
i guess if you look them closely a bit you could find some nonsense geometries what tells that they just can't be renders.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Kaleo on June 05, 2008, 02:19:11 pm
Just curious; what programs do you use to make your images. They look a bit like they're renders.

yippee, that's what i was waiting for ^^ happy to hear that.
they are looking like render on purpose, but they are completely made by hand (well i use ruler for long straight lines but thats all). i draw it with pencil, than i  outline with plain black ballpoint pen. the colors are digital with a wacom tablet in PS.
i guess if you look them closely a bit you could find some nonsense geometries what tells that they just can't be renders.


Well I don't think anyone has commented on their awesomeness.

Very cool, OPTI.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Tycho on June 05, 2008, 11:26:34 pm
Opti, mind if I make a casemod for myself out of that PC design you have there? :o 8)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 06, 2008, 12:03:56 am
Opti, mind if I make a casemod for myself out of that PC design you have there? :o 8)

of course dude, keep in mind that the central pedal is a BOSS DS-1 distortion pedal, and the side ones should be bassdrum pedals :-)
and on the back that thingy is supposed to be an icecube for turbo cooling issues. :-)

thanks for all those who is supporting me!
Title: Re: +ME+'s final work at the university needs help
Post by: Kaleo on June 06, 2008, 04:26:17 am
i finished the main character's mates who will appear first as some kind of "battlecards" with their abilites, special powers and drawbacks.
special power i mean like if they can play very long without going to toilet (while at this area a drawback could be if they are alcoholics so they have to go out to pee every 5 minutes)

the names could be the following from left to right - i am not sure in any and suggestions would be welcomed - : qwakeup, slayermoon and... well i couldn'T find out any for the 3rd dude.
they will be in the same place and they will keep the foredrawn fishie in the pool what is similar to the quake2 secret room.

[img]http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03005654-de3e2c.jpg[ /img]

any silimarities with existing persons is merely coincidence, although when i was flustrated about choosing one of them from trem faces, my girlfriend pointed to one as a suggestion and i instantly agreed.

Call the Lava one Lava.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 07, 2008, 12:11:13 am
i fullscaled the comp what got a proper monitor now. gee, i have only a few days left...
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03016662-db7abf.jpg)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 07, 2008, 12:01:02 pm
the training for a true gamer never stops. as they will be future wars mehca army drivers, my main character definitely feels that 24/7 duty will require to make toilet seats out of the cockpit.

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/15/91/0009/pic-03017279-ad9ee7.jpg)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Kaleo on June 08, 2008, 01:40:43 am
Well, that's horrifying.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 08, 2008, 02:13:38 am
i explain ;-) [EDIT:view in full scale because its a bit high so its distorted]

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03019121-e92a54.jpg)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Kaleo on June 08, 2008, 03:25:36 am
Fucking win!
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 08, 2008, 03:27:22 am
Thnx :-) maybe it would fit into the 'unbalanced weapon ideas' alos :-)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Bajsefar on June 08, 2008, 04:56:10 pm
Make the machine run solely on burning the guy's manure for steam power! olol olol

Great work!
I feel dwarfed, awed, inspired, struck flat, amused- all at the same time.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 09, 2008, 02:02:08 am
Thnx Bajsefar :-) usually its a cool tactic to piss ourselves up and then do something better :-) for example i just pissed off myself on some cool comics today :-)

today my brother just tried to make a 3Dmax model of the player's room that i made. it required so much distortion of a "beleivable" model (as my drawing's geometry is something like a 3-eyed fish's sight stuffed with LSD), that we needed so much cheating to make it at least similar :-)

Tonight's motto: Name the game, let's try again <.<

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03021787-c28e53.jpg)

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03021788-cb75ac.jpg)

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03021809-b20e05.jpg)

(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03021785-44a58e.jpg)



Title: Re: +ME+'s humor needs assist
Post by: player1 on June 09, 2008, 05:37:41 am
My guess would be these guys (http://smbss.ytmnd.com/).
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Tycho on June 09, 2008, 08:09:47 am
OMHFG! :o :o :o I love this! ;D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Bajsefar on June 09, 2008, 01:27:58 pm
I saw worms! ;D;D;D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Kaleo on June 09, 2008, 01:49:24 pm
So what games do these guys actually play?
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 09, 2008, 02:45:13 pm
they play games because they consider themselves as the defenders of the universe. they believe that sooner or later there will be an apocalypse, so they are training against the catastrophes whats odds are the biggest to happen.

so there are some solid reasons why they play certain kind of games.

they play 2D shooters (mostly Wizard of War, Operation wolf and Gyruss) because there is a chance that our universe is going to be invaded from not an upper, but a lower dimension. defending humanity from an attack like that would require special training, especially as we would likely have to attack the aliens in their home worlds (because they have the advantage of being invisible from one side in 3D if they turn 90degrees to you as they are damn flat).
for the same reason (as we are not sure how is "moving" possible in lower dimensions), they play Heroes not only on hexa fields, but with a mod what is adjustable about the main polygon fields. it can also be random. so as at the original game you can move to 6 directions, the mod is setting it by different variables. so its' Random of Might and Magic, Blackhole Might and Magic, Quantum Might and Magic, Chaos Might and Magic, etc.

they play strategy games to fight against the biggest friend and enemy of humanity, the AI. it's very likely to face it sooner or later not only in computer games but IRL. there is hope however, just think about how humans can beat computers in chess. as long as humans are programming the AI, there will be always bugs, and you can make fool of the computer. there are many clichés (ffs i could write this with perfect typo instantly :-O) already in sci-fi literature for this, so i guess there is no need to explain it. to make it more complex, they are usually making mods to combine different games, partly because of the dimensional problem, and partly because of quantum physics. so for example they play starcraft terrans against dune 2's harkhonnens, where the critters are growing Tycoon or Sim City maps. they also mix turn based games with RTS.

they play 3D shooters because NATO and many organizations are already(!) planning to engage robot(!) warriors in wars. srsly, there is no reason to sacrifice human lives in wars, because killing people is usually not even bothering the enemy also. killing expensive robots and mechas (what are the other, face to face version of the same thing, seen at the "toilet" scene). who else can control theese stuff better than a professional FPS player? people like you  will be the the future's army instead of sweating, burping, farting, smelly grunts. make war from your sofa - you will probably see this on posters very soon. most of the countries are already not having military conscription (well maybe finland does i guess), so it's quite bright that this will be the future.

they also play many other games for certain reasons like theese, usually with modifications. one of their favorites are playing quake3 on a modified übernightmare level, but with street fighter characters, or like with sonic (they all behave exactly like in their own games so they cant pick up weapons).

and so on... :-)

[i am actually writing the comic by answering questions like this so thnx for this again]

[EDIT]= the brazilian band, Megadriver, who can be familiar for who are seeking for remakes of consol game musix, agreed to use their songs in the comic. i hope to convince them to make some certain music elements later if i can get a sponsor (wich is very likely if i can manage to be ready well, in 2 days).
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: mooseberry on June 10, 2008, 02:25:01 am
Awesome!  ;D Great idea, great work.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 13, 2008, 09:53:43 am
+++++++++++++++++++++

thnx for support, i've defended my diploma, i've got a 4 (out of 5) :-)

+++++++++++++++++++++
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: NiTRoX on June 13, 2008, 10:21:09 am
+++++++++++++++++++++

thnx for support, i've defended my diploma, i've got a 4 (out of 5) :-)

+++++++++++++++++++++

I'm sorry to say that 4 is not enough, I expected 5 marks from you.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Tycho on June 13, 2008, 01:03:54 pm
why just 4 ???

Show us pls!  ;D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Bajsefar on June 13, 2008, 01:23:32 pm
Show us your work! Please! It looked so awesome!
(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! add moar to these statements)
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 13, 2008, 04:57:21 pm
i am very satisfyed with the 4, as i... well... i couldn'T finish it. i wrote the text for it at the last minutes, i had to left out half of the scenes, and the storyline completely missed any logic. the sound effects were left out, and the menu system totally crashed at the last half hour so i left that out. so instead of correct buttons, you've had to click to page to page by an invisible button at the top of the screen :-D so i had to be aware of every dude trying it to show them how it works.
my luck was that i show the work on a projector and i talked so much about gaming culture while showing the nicer scenes, that i've had no time for the less perfect ones. and i knew where to click... :-)

so i've got a 4 instead of failing, and at the morning i was so sure that i will...

i guess i cant upload it anywhere as i don'T have a site, maybe on monday when i talk with the company, when i can also talk with them about sponsoring further work.

oh yes, and the committee announced at the end to the public that my topic (the gamers, what they expressed with various literal therms) is an important topic in the 21th century.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Tycho on June 13, 2008, 08:00:08 pm
Lucky bastard! 8) :D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Tycho on June 16, 2008, 12:05:05 pm
omg dubbelpoast!

so where is your comic? ;D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 16, 2008, 03:30:03 pm
on exhibition from tomorrow till saturday near the moscow square ^^

i try to upload it to the company's website.
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Tycho on June 16, 2008, 04:07:25 pm
on exhibition from tomorrow till saturday near the moscow square ^^

i try to upload it to the company's website.

wait wut? from when and where exactly? I might be able to go there after my exam ;D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 16, 2008, 07:00:14 pm
at PONTON gallery, near moscow square...:-)*

*: just for those like Tycho and Harlequin: the exhibiton starts at 18:00 :-D
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 18, 2008, 08:52:22 pm
http://diploma.mome.hu/person.php?id=71
only the stills there, i didn'T upload the full stuff yet. i'll update with a link.

i guess this might be the end of the "finalwork" part :-)

as long as i don'T get huge jobs, i will try to make the trem part somewhat more "evolved" than this one, like with more, and more complicated animations and more moving of the camera. judging from this project's time scheduling, it will take a while :-) but as i am done with the mainframe, i will make a thread about that.
Title: gallery opening....
Post by: Harlequin on June 18, 2008, 11:48:12 pm
at PONTON gallery, near moscow square...:-)*

*: just for those like Tycho and Harlequin: the exhibiton starts at 18:00 :-D

Yeah, we could not get into the gallery (we were early), so we had to drink instead of it...

If i become an alcuholic it is your fault Optimus  :-[
Title: Re: +ME+'s gamer comic needs assist
Post by: Lava Croft on June 19, 2008, 12:03:24 am
Does this mean I can phone Optimus and say all kinds of dirty things in his ear? I can't wait!