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Title: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: TRaK on April 29, 2008, 10:18:12 pm
I've been trying to get radiant 1.4 to work properly on my laptop for a while now, but I keep running into a really annoying problem.

If I don't have my graphics drivers installed (clean xp install), the 3d view seems to work fine, if very laggy. However, once I install my graphics drivers(intel 965 chipset, latest drivers from the manufacturer), this is what my 3d view looks like:

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4181/69221949nf7.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69221949nf7.jpg)
Which is pretty much impossible to work with  :-\

Here's some shots of a couple basic brushes to give you an idea of what it does:

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/794/problem2rs0.jpg  <<- looks normal when no brush is touching the edges of the 3d view.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/198/problem3sx0.jpg  <<- As soon as a brush is not entirely displayed in the 3d window, some/all of its sides show in wireframe mode.

The 3d view is set to display bilinear mipmap, not wireframe.

I've tried to get 1.5 to work, but it crashes at startup. Also, I don't really want to use 1.5 :P

Any ideas on how to fix this?
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Diluke on April 29, 2008, 11:03:09 pm
hmm it's strange... maybe your 'latest' drivers cracked it ??
i suggest 2 things
1. play some in options try everything ^^
or 2. Third party drivers (not omegadrivers -.-)
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Lava Croft on April 30, 2008, 10:17:20 am
Well, that looks like broken drivers...

What error does 1.5 give you at startup?
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: TRaK on April 30, 2008, 04:46:53 pm
I did a bit of searching for my 1.5 error and I found a fix here (http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15378). As far as I can tell, 1.5 is working fine. And wouldn't you know it, my error is listed right under the download for gtkradiant 1.5 on its website (http://www.qeradiant.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi), too. I need to be less lazy :P

I guess I can use 1.5 if i absolutely have to, but I'd much rather get 1.4 working seeing as I'm used to that version and I find that 1.5 is missing a lot of important features.
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Amtie on April 30, 2008, 06:55:38 pm
You tried rightclick>properties>compatability>mess around with stuff there?

I had graphical problems with me and my vista computer, but maybe it'd work for XP too if you tick the right box.
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Lava Croft on April 30, 2008, 10:07:15 pm
Get over 1.4, get used to 1.5.
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Taiyo.uk on April 30, 2008, 10:59:48 pm
and I find that 1.5 is missing a lot of important features.

* Taiyo.uk will have a tantrum if TRaK means the patch malformer bend tool.
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Ingar on May 01, 2008, 09:26:58 am
Get over 1.4, get used to 1.5.

unfortunatly, the official line seems to be: get used to ZeroRadiant, forget about 1.5.

I'm used to 1.5, for the time beeing I'll stick to it
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Lava Croft on May 01, 2008, 10:02:08 am
Get over 1.4, get used to 1.5.

unfortunatly, the official line seems to be: get used to ZeroRadiant, forget about 1.5.

I'm used to 1.5, for the time beeing I'll stick to it
Good thing about Zero Radiant is that we don't have to use it! We have 1.5!
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: TRaK on May 01, 2008, 03:04:02 pm
What I really miss is the z-bar in 1.5, but it also drives me crazy that they seem to have changed half the hotkeys, and afaik there is no way to change them back, unless I'm missing something. Can't wait till ZR has some windows binaries  :D

Taiyo, I would never use the patch bend tool  ;)
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: your face on May 01, 2008, 09:04:57 pm
TRaK, where did you get that leet menu-bar?
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Taiyo.uk on May 01, 2008, 09:44:11 pm
That's the normal Radiant 1.4 menu bar.
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: your face on May 01, 2008, 11:34:05 pm
Erm, the Windows bar thingy.  :P
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: TRaK on May 01, 2008, 11:39:19 pm
That's the Windows XP Zune theme I got from here (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Zune_Theme_for_Windows_XP/1162510646/1).

Anything is better than that awful blue and green default theme :P
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: blood2.0 on May 02, 2008, 02:20:15 am
maybe some coders could fix that pull some files from one a plug them into the other.  i know its not going to be that easy but its worth fixing.
Title: Re: Radiant 3d view problem
Post by: Taiyo.uk on May 02, 2008, 11:23:41 am
The Intel G965/GM965 is notoriously buggy driver-wise, in windows and on linux. Substantial architecture changes from the previous 945 (hardware T&L, programmable stuff, etc.) seems to have been somewhat of a culture shock to the driver writers.