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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stof on June 17, 2006, 10:27:07 pm
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It seems to me that most human players do not know how to play humans correctly. That's why I'm here to give a few tips on how to best make use of the humans.
1 : you only need to kill eggs, overmind and grangers to win.
2 : cf tip 1
That's all. Kill a Dretch, buy painsaw + armor for 170cr ( you got 175cr for the kill ) and run to the alien base to kill eggs and om in that order if possible. If you kill at least 1 egg, you are positive on cash ( you get around 200cr per egg kill ). And by all means, do NOT stop in the way to kill a dretch. Remember that humans are very dependent on their base for health and ammo so each time you stop to fight a useless dretch, you'll lose some precious health and ammo which means less time to kill the real targets.
Here's a demo to show how it's done. Too bad I haven't one with very good alien players around too but they can't be everywhere anyway so it works for that too :) And if they stay to defend the base, it means they aren't attacking yours.
http://tremulous.free.fr/demos/demo0032.dm_69
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It's pretty easy to painsaw rush a bad alien team in the first couple of minutes, sure. But a 2 minute game is not much fun for anyone except the guy with the painsaw. :P
I find it's a lot more fun to fasttrack humans to stage 3 by setting up a fight between 1 or 2 guys with lasgun / batt. pack vs. swarms of dretches. It's pretty easy to set this up, just shoot the OM with lasgun a couple of times and they all come running. If you survive the first wave of dretches, it's like whack-a-mole as they start respawning. Next thing you know it's stage 3 humans vs stage 1 aliens with no base. If aliens can clock up enough kills to hit stage 3 during the egg hunt, then they deserve to win. :D
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It seems to me that most human players do not know how to play humans correctly. That's why I'm here to give a few tips on how to best make use of the humans.
1 : you only need to kill eggs, overmind and grangers to win.
2 : cf tip 1
That's all. Kill a Dretch, buy painsaw + armor for 170cr ( you got 175cr for the kill ) and run to the alien base to kill eggs and om in that order if possible. If you kill at least 1 egg, you are positive on cash ( you get around 200cr per egg kill ). And by all means, do NOT stop in the way to kill a dretch. Remember that humans are very dependent on their base for health and ammo so each time you stop to fight a useless dretch, you'll lose some precious health and ammo which means less time to kill the real targets.
Here's a demo to show how it's done. Too bad I haven't one with very good alien players around too but they can't be everywhere anyway so it works for that too :) And if they stay to defend the base, it means they aren't attacking yours.
http://tremulous.free.fr/demos/demo0032.dm_69
Eggs are 150 credits I believe.
I think the effect you were going for was:
http://rapidshare.de/files/23364505/atcs.dm_69.html
(second time around didn't get to do it. got a phone call and came back to next map... looking at the demo, I guess the builders didn't listen to me :x.)
Saw rush can be very effective, but trust me, builders learn and expect them ;). They're alot more fun at s2 with grenades, used to get tons of grenade kills everytime I did it, but once again people learned ;). For example most builders will put two tubes to block the ramp on ATCS up to the OM, but a grenade or saw can take them down, or sometimes they can be jumped over if poorly placed.
(Was hoping to make that demo into avi and put it on Tremulous demo thread, but my efforts into making a reasonable sized avi failed...)
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and if you aren't skilled enough to do that, try this strategy:
1) camp on turrets to get kills and money
2) wait for your team to get s3
3) attack with battlesuit and lucy.
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It seems to me that most human players do not know how to play humans correctly. That's why I'm here to give a few tips on how to best make use of the humans.
1 : you only need to kill eggs, overmind and grangers to win.
2 : cf tip 1
That's all. Kill a Dretch, buy painsaw + armor for 170cr ( you got 175cr for the kill ) and run to the alien base to kill eggs and om in that order if possible. If you kill at least 1 egg, you are positive on cash ( you get around 200cr per egg kill ). And by all means, do NOT stop in the way to kill a dretch. Remember that humans are very dependent on their base for health and ammo so each time you stop to fight a useless dretch, you'll lose some precious health and ammo which means less time to kill the real targets.
Here's a demo to show how it's done. Too bad I haven't one with very good alien players around too but they can't be everywhere anyway so it works for that too :) And if they stay to defend the base, it means they aren't attacking yours.
http://tremulous.free.fr/demos/demo0032.dm_69
Respect where respect is due, while it is a fundamental strategy, it will never work with either people who know what they are doing or in large servers. Killing a pain saw rusher with a dretch can be very simple, esepcially if you have 2 or 3.
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and if you aren't skilled enough to do that, try this strategy:
1) camp on turrets to get kills and money
2) wait for your team to get s3
3) attack with battlesuit and lucy.
I hate this strategy :P I prefer humans playing more agressive.
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and if you aren't skilled enough to do that, try this strategy:
1) camp on turrets to get kills and money
2) wait for your team to get s3
3) attack with battlesuit and lucy.
You call that skill ? I call that tactics . Look at the demo, there isn't much skill involved. Only the correct usage of dretch evade skill and knowledge of the egg collision box location is required. After that, jiggle a little during egg killing time and try to get between the om and the wall if possible ( default alien om location on atcs is perfect for that ):D