Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: drstrangelove on October 07, 2008, 05:20:23 pm
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Void of Deity will be hosting a full-scale Tremulous Tournament, planning stages have just begun, and we're looking for volunteers to assist in the planning and staffing process. Several rules/servers/prizes are already in place, so if you're interested in being involved, head to http://voidofdeity.net/forum and post in the admissions board to be considered for staff/involved in the planning.
Thanks for your interest!
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Feel free to help out, we really need it, we also need people to particpate. What else are we gonna do with these prizes.
(hint hint)
Prizes include but are not limited to
Free Webspace
A Free 12 Slot Trem Server(a good one not a shitty home one) for a small period of time ranging from 2 weeks to 2 monhts.
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The tournament part sounds good, the prizes, meh. My prize is just winning the damn thing and having fun, besides, if I wanted my own webspace/server I would've gotten my own. :P
Too bad the prizes don't include HL, god I want that game so badly. D:
Yea ok, that has nothing to do with anything, anyhow go Void clan/guild/whatever/I forgot! ;D
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sounds nice.
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What a wonderfully delightful idea! :tyrant: ??? :tyrant: :turret: :tyrant: :trapper: :turret:
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I can sense the skepticism. Here, let me shed some light. This is not TremLeague.
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You realize the clan scene is dead, right?
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Good luck, hopefully this will take off nicely and further the community.
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So, what if we just want to participate?
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Haha, yes, this is not TremLeague, and this isn't a clan-based Tournament Yarou for that very reason, and for Darth Futaza and all those interested in competing, a new post will be made shortly with registration info.
Oh, and for all the would-be skeptics...yes, we know tourneys often wind up small/clan scene is dead/etc., but this is a start in pursuing Void's goal of promoting Tremulous, for new players and old alike.
Thanks!
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but this is a start in pursuing Void's goal of promoting Tremulous, for new players and old alike.
And thatz why the Void guild iz da bestest in da world! :D
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good luck...
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You realize the clan scene is dead, right?
You come all the way here just to tell us that? Thanks for wasting our time.
If you're not interested in helping get this started, don't bother posting. We have our own people to bump the topic.
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The clan scene may be too slow to get it really going and only a few clans would be in the tournament probably, but if it does happen it's better than nothing...If it gets far enough, count NT in.
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Here, let me clarify, again... This is not a clan-based tournament. (afaik) It's a tournament with teams of friends that don't exactly consist of clan members. For instance, there could be Dracone, me, Powa, and some random noob on a team. These aren't exactly in concrete so bear with us...
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In other words: Not a scrim.
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Correct...this has nothing to do with clans for that very reason. Rules and Guidelines will be posted shortly along with registration info.
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Hopefully people aren't stupid enough to even think of it as a scrim....
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Just because match ups will be played scrim style doesn't mean anything. Think of it as a giant pick up tournament.
We are considering doing another tournament though, that will be clan based, and one that will be pick your own teams base.
This one however will be either completely random generated teams, or team captains will be picked and they can take turns picking out of the pool of players. The reasons being for this is that there is tons of active players, but not tons of active clans. The clan scene is too dead, though maybe a clan tournament would help get the clan scene going, this isn't the ideal of this particular tourny.
We plan on having more tournies, only the prizes wont be as good for clan based or pick your own team based tournies(as they will be less fair to the average player)
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Hopefully people aren't stupid enough to even think of it as a scrim....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrim_(internet_slang)
Now what, oh great definer of words, St Vrayne?
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scrimmage
FUCK ME, NOW WHAT?
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"Scrim" as in the widely accepted meaning: A competition between clans/guilds.
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who doesn't have a clear definition on the phrases commonly used in the sacred life of clans/GUILDS should not participate in its inner discussions, only for attention whoring purposes.
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Randomized groups then? Just as fun, count me in I guess.
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Yep, just as fun. We should have planning finalized soon.
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"Scrim" as in the widely accepted meaning: A competition between clans/guilds.
I started playing clanwars in 1995, and the word 'scrim' has always been used to define practice games between groups of people/clans, much like the good old wikipedia explains.
The games that will be played in this tournament sound like pickup games, a very common form of playing teamgames in Quake, made most famous by Rocket Arena, although it was called Clan Arena back then, to add to the confusion. Pickup games are hot, mad and usually a ton of fun, since you get to play with a wide range of people.
Small question: How will this tournament handle spectators? It would be nice to have a few people record the games, so you can deliver some really nice demos for people to watch.
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We want to have 2-3 refs/subs for reach game, and would love to have the demo.
Every player will most likely be required to demo their view of the entire round just in case of cheating accustions etc.
Though most likely and hopefully none of the people playing will be required to submit their demo. We hope everyone gives no reason to suspect cheating and that no one actually cheats.
We want 2-4 people demoing the game from spectator. Maybe one for each team and one free floating around.
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Just use server-side demos.
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You realize the clan scene is dead, right?
April 2008. French clan scene seemed fully dead. wwF organise TFT tournament (French Tremulous Tournament).
12 registered clans
about 70 registered players
2 new clans created for the tournament (One of them still alive)
38 matchs played
All french clans up and aware for 2 months.
Well, it maybe not a so bad idea to organise a new tournament :)
A problem with internationalisation is where ? US (and 150-200 ping for european), Europe ? (and 150-200 ping for US) (and I don't talk about other countries with tremulous community ...)
Maybe we could ask to amanieu to host the tournament ? so everyone will have 400 ping :D
And please, let me give you an advice : match should be planed by organizers, not by players. That's why Gamefest failed, and why TFT successed.
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The best way to solve a intercontinental tournament, like one between Europe and the United States of Americe, is to play games on both European and American servers, much like football tournaments. With football I mean the sane version of the sport, not the spandex-induced American version.
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What about Bermuda or Iceland? They're somewhat between NA and the EU, are there any data centers out there?
lol @ football
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It's more fair to have 2 games per match. One game will be played on for example an American server, while the other will be played on a European server. This way, both sides will experience that having 200ms isn't that big of a deal, while still having the opportunity to show off their prowess while playing with a 50ms.
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You realize the clan scene is dead, right?
April 2008. French clan scene seemed fully dead. wwF organise TFT tournament (French Tremulous Tournament).
12 registered clans
about 70 registered players
2 new clans created for the tournament (One of them still alive)
38 matchs played
All french clans up and aware for 2 months.
Well, it maybe not a so bad idea to organise a new tournament :)
A problem with internationalisation is where ? US (and 150-200 ping for european), Europe ? (and 150-200 ping for US) (and I don't talk about other countries with tremulous community ...)
Maybe we could ask to amanieu to host the tournament ? so everyone will have 400 ping :D
And please, let me give you an advice : match should be planed by organizers, not by players. That's why Gamefest failed, and why TFT successed.
The part I made red, absolutely made my day. We are so doing that.
I think for now, our tourny will just be North America based sorry for any inconviences.
So I guess that would mainly be american and some canadian players. I heard the french-canadian player base is pretty high, but I don't know a lot about it. Unfortunately my whole trem life I've stuck in my little zone of community.
If there is any players that would get 200 and under ping on most decent US based servers, they are welcome to participate.
If anyone has a server, that they would like to let us use for a match or two that might produce fairer ping, that would be well welcomed as well. We have one to two servers lined up to use. But we're afraid not having a variety of location for ping could be a problem.
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Lets look at the positive side ... atleast we'll have the trem community try to come together and participate , which is better than not giving it a shot at all .
and we should perhaps make Lava the official commentator for the games ;) .
Oh, and Count me in !
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It's more fair to have 2 games per match. One game will be played on for example an American server, while the other will be played on a European server. This way, both sides will experience that having 200ms isn't that big of a deal, while still having the opportunity to show off their prowess while playing with a 50ms.
Yeah, it's probably the best solution, but, with a so high ping difference, maybe two team with same skill will finish every games couple tie :(, or maybe a team decide to camp to get a timelimit on the opposite server ? :D
so, The best solution is Quantum teleportation xD
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It's more fair to have 2 games per match. One game will be played on for example an American server, while the other will be played on a European server. This way, both sides will experience that having 200ms isn't that big of a deal, while still having the opportunity to show off their prowess while playing with a 50ms.
Na, that's cause too many problems, then we'll have to keep track of two games instead of one. :P
"Scrim" as in the widely accepted meaning: A competition between clans/guilds.
I started playing clanwars in 1995, and the word 'scrim' has always been used to define practice games between groups of people/clans, much like the good old wikipedia explains.
Even though 101% of the time Lava is never wrong and I always agree what he says, this time I'll have to agree with Syntac because he made a good point.
In Tremulous many players (Including me) sees the word 'scrim' as as competition between clans/guilds to show who has the better clan, its a fun and exciting event that Tremulous players enjoy. Later Lava goes on speaking about Quake or Rocket Arena, but this isn't Quake/Rocket Arena, (Sparta-time) this is, Tremulous! And in Tremulous, thats how players describe the word 'scrim', in different games the meaning is different, but (I think) we can all agree that 'scrim' means clanwars.
so, The best solution is Quantum teleportation xD
And risk the chance that aliens from that border world known as Xen quantum leap inside the game and start pwning us which would defy every law of physics or logic? No thanks. :P
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It's more fair to have 2 games per match. One game will be played on for example an American server, while the other will be played on a European server. This way, both sides will experience that having 200ms isn't that big of a deal, while still having the opportunity to show off their prowess while playing with a 50ms.
Na, that's cause too many problems, then we'll have to keep track of two games instead of one. :P
The norm seems to be 3 games as I recall....
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@ Lava: I'm sorry. I didn't know I had to clarify what a scrim was. I'll be sure to be more clear next time, just for you! :)
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@ Lava: I'm sorry. I didn't know I had to clarify what a scrim was. I'll be sure to be more clear next time, just for you! :)
Just try to stick to the most common definition of a word or term, instead of some decriped definition you made up in your mind, merely due to a lack of information and/or knowledge.
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Have you ever stopped to think that the community wasn't as dumb as you thought it was? Everyone knows what a scrim is. Of all people, with your all-knowing knowledge you should at least make the effort to do some research.
Now, I will ask that if you wish to send a reply to this message, please do so via PM. This thread still has merit.
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Your definition of the word scrim is supported only by a few other forum members, while the definition I stick to has been backed up by at least one kind of reasonably trustworthy source. Therefore, I wonder who is the one who should make this said effort to do some research.
It might also be smart to not use the word 'community', while you are in fact only talking for a few single people, including yourself.
And now, if you are really the gentleman your last post suggests you are, you can reply me via a PM.
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It really doesn't matter anymore. Let's get the damn thread back on topic, shall we?
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Bermuda would favor the US I think, and Iceland Europe. The best way is to host many servers on Greenland.