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Media => Mapping Center => Topic started by: kozak6 on June 20, 2006, 08:07:53 am

Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: kozak6 on June 20, 2006, 08:07:53 am
Please don't decorate ceilings with ridges and crap unless it is deliberately intended for strategic purposes.

For example, certain parts of Nexus6 with ridges on the ceiling are very very difficult to traverse quickly as a Marauder or Dragoon, and are simply vomit inducing as a dretch.

If it is intended to retard alien movement for some sort of ultimate balance, fine.  If it just happens to look pretty, please just don't, or at least leave a clear path through them.

Thank you.
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Basilisco on June 20, 2006, 10:06:26 am
OR, made them a bit higher :)
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Neo on June 20, 2006, 05:26:18 pm
lol, its not that bad, you should see derelict :D

the ceiling is like dretch speedbumps.
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Thorn on June 20, 2006, 07:18:43 pm
Hey I love Decorated Ceilings as a Dretcher

As a human what would u find harder to shoot?
An aliens on ceiling going in a strait line or an alien moving around like its practising its dance routines.as a heavy mass driver this dont really bother me,Well of course it does if i miss lol
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Stakhanov on June 20, 2006, 07:40:41 pm
And don't decorate floors and walls either... :P

Seriously though , it is good to place decorations behind grate pannels , and keep the eye candy without driving dretches nuts.
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: [db@]Megabite on June 20, 2006, 10:18:44 pm
Don't forget not to texture anything and compile without lighting (fullbright) as enemies are too hard to see... :P

Seriously... not decorating walls and ceilings would make the maps boring, even as a dretch. I try to keep spaces for wallwalkers while other areas are intentionally hard to navigate. As anything else, it is just a matter of balance... ;)

Danny
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Survivor on June 20, 2006, 10:24:53 pm
I'm generally not bothered as long as they don't occur every half step I take. >128 units I can deal with but less becomes increasingly irritating since you spend more time trying to dodge then attack.
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: tokugawa on June 21, 2006, 01:57:10 am
Maruders should have jump adjusted somewhat like dragoons. Just jump where you are looking...

Dretches... :( I like them... but engine could be made that instead __||||__ it would be _/||||\_ for dretch (you know.. forward legs on celling - bacward on wall or sth)

Yet, this is non trivial matter ...

BUT... eq something non-visible but walkable for wall-aliens, hard to place it manually but plugin for GTKradiant (since it is open Yay!) shouldn't be THAT hard (or just a tool.. map2dretchmap :))
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: [db@]Megabite on June 21, 2006, 08:41:17 am
You just place playerclip brushes in front of decoration... It is done in the main corridors of Derelict for example... ;)
It not only makes wallwalking easier but prevents anyone from being stuck at decorative edges.

Danny
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 23, 2006, 10:45:50 pm
If it looks pretty, just make them decorative, not actuall structures.
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Kattana on June 24, 2006, 08:21:02 am
Bump, Listen to Megabite mappers, smooth out those surfaces for use wall climbers.
Bumpy impossible to run up walls, cealings and random pipes/strutctures will make people really hate your map unless the rest of it is really, really good.
Title: celing too high
Post by: Woo_Hoi on July 05, 2006, 05:50:17 pm
celing too high make low fps.Therefore i hate the uncreation map. :evil:
Title: Re: celing too high
Post by: Teiman on July 07, 2006, 01:09:11 pm
Quote from: "Woo_Hoi"
celing too high make low fps.Therefore i hate the uncreation map. :evil:


This is because the Quake3 occulsion is 2D. But maybe with simple poligons you can still have very 3d maps. I really love holes as alien :D
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: The Chosen One on July 07, 2006, 08:11:46 pm
Quote from: "Basilisco"
OR, made them a bit higher :)


Or dont make them at all :P
Title: Please don't decorate ceilings!!!!
Post by: Mirsha on July 07, 2006, 11:34:24 pm
I disagree. Decorate your ceilings with an elaborated raised vertex mapping of the Sistine Chapel to your hearts delight. Cut massive beams with off cut ridges. Do whatever you want then apply a clip brush over it all and no one will care apart from to look at the pretty.