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Title: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Unimatrix_001 on November 04, 2008, 08:42:22 pm
Greetings, well i was thinking about to set my pc be better and i need you to say what you think about that:
My pc status now:
ASRock Motherboard - AliveXfire-eSATA2 R3.0
Processor: AMD Athlon X2(Dual Core) 5200+ 2,7ghz 1MB catche
3.5GB(3,584 in MB) of RAM(TAKE MS 1gb + Take MS 512MB + Take MS 2GB)
HDD 200Gb
GPU Gigabyte ATi Radeon 3650 512MB DDR2
Coolers: 80x80x25mm(two of them = Xsilence + Cooler Master) + 92mm(only one = Cooler Master) = implanted in housing

My Pc status in future:
Asrock Motherboard(SAME)
Processor:(SAME)
Ram: 7,5GB
HDD 320GB
GPU Gigabyte ATi Radeon 3650 512MB DDR2 +(CROSSFIREING WITH+ Powercolor ATi Radeon 3650 512MB DDR3
Coolers: Same But + little Evercool for HDD

Do you think this would be fully gameing pc? howmany $ would it even cost?

Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Archangel on November 05, 2008, 12:20:55 am
google.com
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Snake on November 05, 2008, 12:46:43 am
Greetings, well i was thinking about to set my pc be better and i need you to say what you think about that:
My pc status now:
ASRock Motherboard - AliveXfire-eSATA2 R3.0
Processor: AMD Athlon X2(Dual Core) 5200+ 2,7ghz 1MB catche
3.5GB(3,584 in MB) of RAM(TAKE MS 1gb + Take MS 512MB + Take MS 2GB)
HDD 200Gb
GPU Gigabyte ATi Radeon 3650 512MB DDR2
Coolers: 80x80x25mm(two of them = Xsilence + Cooler Master) + 92mm(only one = Cooler Master) = implanted in housing

My Pc status in future:
Asrock Motherboard(SAME)
Processor:(SAME)
Ram: 7,5GB
HDD 320GB
GPU Gigabyte ATi Radeon 3650 512MB DDR2 +(CROSSFIREING WITH+ Powercolor ATi Radeon 3650 512MB DDR3
Coolers: Same But + little Evercool for HDD

Do you think this would be fully gameing pc? howmany $ would it even cost?



Give/Gift/Sell me your old pc, the new one is better in many ways and need a better pc :P
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Bissig on November 05, 2008, 02:15:29 am
7,5 Gigabyte RAM is an utter waste.

Don't use crossfire. Get a HD 4850 whateverrevision and dumped the old one on ebay. You will gain much more performance.

Invest the saved money from the not needed RAM upgrade into a faster new hdd. F.e. a hdd with 10 000 rpm.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: mooseberry on November 05, 2008, 02:27:44 am
Yeh, even 3.5 of RAM with dual processors is pretty much a waste of money.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Archangel on November 05, 2008, 05:29:13 am
Yeh, even 3.5 of RAM with dual processors is pretty much a waste of money.

what the fuck are you talking about, maybe for a desktop., 4gb tops. but servers you'd need much more...
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Amanieu on November 05, 2008, 05:47:44 am
My server is a Pentium M laptop with 256MB of RAM
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Hendrich on November 05, 2008, 05:54:28 am
Beat this. I like to see any of you play Tremulous on this PC:

My old computer,

713Mhz
Videocard; ATI RAGE 128 PRO, it only supports D3D
512Mb RAM
20GB Harddrive
Cooler: Its so god-damn dusty, theres bigger dust bunnies then Khalsa's avatar
Monitor; A white, square box bigger then my printer with scissor scratch marks on the screen
The best game my PC can run without crashing was Morrowind, and it gave me 4-10 Fps.

Who needs a new PC now? ;)
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Archangel on November 05, 2008, 05:56:57 am
433MHz  PPC PowerPC G3
128MB RAM
10GB Disk
ATI RAGE 128 PRO

ran trem ok slow, but ok.

Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: mooseberry on November 05, 2008, 06:16:24 am
Yeh, even 3.5 of RAM with dual processors is pretty much a waste of money.

what the fuck are you talking about, maybe for a desktop., 4gb tops. but servers you'd need much more...

I didn't know he was using it for that, he just said for gaming pc, and for most games, definetly for Tremulous, 3.5 is plenty.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Hendrich on November 05, 2008, 06:19:39 am
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433MHz  PPC PowerPC G3
128MB RAM
10GB Disk
ATI RAGE 128 PRO

I have met my greater.  :(
You do know btw, Tremulous can't run on that PC because it only supports D3D? Fishy.  :)

@Unimatrix:

http://www.techspot.com/vb/
 (http://www.techspot.com/vb/)

Good forum site to post questions like these.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Death On Ice on November 05, 2008, 06:26:27 am
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433MHz  PPC PowerPC G3
128MB RAM
10GB Disk
ATI RAGE 128 PRO

I have met my greater.  :(
You do know btw, Tremulous can't run on that PC because it only supports D3D? Fishy.  :)
It's a Mac. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Overdose on November 05, 2008, 06:44:11 am
Don't bother with that stuff if it can handle most of what you do now. Save your money for a few months and by the time you have enough the low- to mid-range Intel Nehalem parts should be on the market. Even the low-end Nehalem chips will destroy your current Athlon X2 and give you far greater performance in Tremulous than another HD 3650 would.
After you get the new motherboard, CPU and RAM (Nehalem is DDR3 only) invest a new hard drive. I recommend Seagate Barracudas, Samsung Spinpoints and Western Digital Raptors. And finally, prices on the HD 4870 should be well below the $200 mark - get it while you can.

Obviously that could all change, computer technology evolves so quickly that it becomes difficult to decide on something because you know it'll be outdated within the year. But if you don't want to wait and want a few small upgrades now, do what Bissig said: New HDD and an ATI HD 4850 (the latter can be had for as low as $139 right now).
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Syntac on November 05, 2008, 12:29:30 pm
Processor: 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Intel GMA X3100
VRAM: 144 MB
Tremulous frame rate: 90 FPS

I'm using a MacBook. Your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Archangel on November 05, 2008, 02:34:36 pm
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433MHz  PPC PowerPC G3
128MB RAM
10GB Disk
ATI RAGE 128 PRO

I have met my greater.  :(
You do know btw, Tremulous can't run on that PC because it only supports D3D? Fishy.  :)
It's a Mac. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Why would they ship the card with it then?
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Hendrich on November 05, 2008, 03:31:34 pm
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it's a Mac. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

So, a Mac has a magical feature that turns a D3D-only card into a OpenGl card?

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Why would they ship the card with it then?

What?


Anyways, how its going with your new PC ideas, Unimatrix?
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: mooseberry on November 06, 2008, 01:55:55 am
Processor: 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Intel GMA X3100
VRAM: 144 MB
Tremulous frame rate: 90 FPS

I'm using a MacBook. Your argument is invalid.

What argument? lol. Are you in the wrong thread or something.  ::)
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Syntac on November 06, 2008, 02:02:50 am
Yeah, whoops. I meant to post somewhere else... Sigh. ::)
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Archangel on November 06, 2008, 03:03:24 pm
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it's a Mac. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

So, a Mac has a magical feature that turns a D3D-only card into a OpenGl card?

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Why would they ship the card with it then?

What?


Anyways, how its going with your new PC ideas, Unimatrix?

It isn't a d3d only card! How many times do I have to say that?

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RAGE 128 was compliant to Direct3D 6 and OpenGL 1.2. It supported many features from the previous RAGE chips, such as triangle setup, DVD acceleration, and a capable VGA/GUI accelerator core.

ALL PowerMac G3 (and early iMacs) shipped with RAGE cards, afaik.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Hendrich on November 07, 2008, 12:24:48 am
Not on my PC, it has the latest drivers from back then, and OpenGL doesn't work shit. I might post this problem in the Off-topic section later, you seem to know your stuff Archangel.  :)

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RAGE 128

Mine is RAGE 128 PRO, not the normal RAGE 128. I know it shouldn;t make a difference, but who knows? They could've fucked up while making the card. :P
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Archangel on November 07, 2008, 12:39:00 am
the PRO has ogl too. only the very initial RAGE didn't have opengl ....
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Tycho on November 07, 2008, 09:10:25 am
If it isn't over discussed yet: don't go crossfire, waste of money still... 4 gigs of ram is totally enough, buy better HDD...

(I'll have in about 3 weeks a full 1.4 TB HDD space and I still use a sapphire radeon x1950pro 512mb ddr3 and all new games including crysis, clear sky, fallout 3 are running perfectly fine on full detail for dx9... (okay turned off AA, it tends to be not working at all or dropping my fps severely but I think that just because this card sucks at that...))
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: mooseberry on November 08, 2008, 01:43:20 am
AA is more important than a lot of other graphical options usually, in terms of pleasurable "seeing experiences."
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Chronoslicer on November 08, 2008, 01:55:07 am
lol

Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Quad
RAM: 3 GB
Graphics: Nvidia 9800 GT
VRAM: 512MB
Tremulous frame rate: 90 FPS

ran Crysis on FUll very high with FPS of 90-60 O.O
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Taiyo.uk on November 08, 2008, 03:56:46 pm
Crysis uses more than one of those four cores.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Thorn on November 08, 2008, 08:09:23 pm
I find it very unlikely that you managed to get crysis running on that setup with those settings at any decent resolution.

Even the GTX280 is not completely smooth at 1920x1200 ( This was tested with a QX9550 cpu iirc )
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: tyranis on November 08, 2008, 11:02:10 pm
Crysis uses more than one of those four cores.


Tremulous by default is capped at 90, you can change it to whatever though; so his system would be getting multi hundred fps. My intel integrated p4 system has hit the cap on a few maps.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Unimatrix_001 on November 12, 2008, 03:41:18 pm
7,5 Gigabyte RAM is an utter waste.

Don't use crossfire. Get a HD 4850 whateverrevision and dumped the old one on ebay. You will gain much more performance.

Invest the saved money from the not needed RAM upgrade into a faster new hdd. F.e. a hdd with 10 000 rpm.

lol both of my HDD's allready got 10 000 rpm thats normally
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Bissig on November 13, 2008, 12:03:25 am
No, normal is 7200 rpm for desktops and 5400 rpm for notebooks. 10 000 rpm is either SCSI or high-end IDE/SATA.
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: Annihilation on November 13, 2008, 12:38:47 am
Crysis uses more than one of those four cores.


Tremulous by default is capped at 90, you can change it to whatever though; so his system would be getting multi hundred fps. My intel integrated p4 system has hit the cap on a few maps.

If it goes over 200ish it freaks out and you freeze up.  Spits out error messages.  Its ugly when you hit 900 :/
Title: Re: Upgradeing my pc....
Post by: mooseberry on November 13, 2008, 01:33:30 am
Anything greater than 125 or something makes zero difference anyways, and can just make you lag more depending on your machine.