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Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: captain chaos on June 21, 2006, 10:25:07 pm
:P Why the hell does LAVA CROFT have to spoil things . changing maps at will. kicking poeple not liked. must be an inferiority thing in real life something like that. Trem` is fantastic but not the only online game, i know a few people not wanting to play anymore. come LAVA grow up , ban me for having a say ,what ever i`ll get over it. but you need help. :evil:
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Who on June 21, 2006, 10:54:33 pm
Honestly, if he's a server admin he can do whatever he wants on his server.


If you don't like it, don't play on that server. Flaming here won't really do you any good.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on June 21, 2006, 10:56:27 pm
Dear Captain Chaos,

First of all, it is a lot more productive to contact me directly, instead of making a fool out of yourself on this forum. Posting here will not get your ban removed, it actually enforces it. The moment you start behaving, is the moment you are welcome to SATGNU again. There are more than enough players willing to fill your spot.

Yours truly,

Lava Croft
Title: LAWL
Post by: Mwa on June 21, 2006, 11:04:01 pm
Hey there, Miss Chaos.
Welcome to the Interweb, where the Admin's word is LAW
If Lava wants to boot you, Lava can boot you.
If Lava wishes to change the map, Lava changes the map.
This is called life.
:)
Title: Re: LAWL
Post by: Lava Croft on June 22, 2006, 12:14:26 am
Quote from: "Mwa"
If Lava wants to boot you, Lava can boot you.
If Lava wishes to change the map, Lava changes the map.
:)


Ya, kind of, but not quite.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Paradox on June 22, 2006, 02:21:46 am
We all know lava, he is your friendly neighborhood admin.

Stay on his good side, it is sugar and honey, get on his bad side, it is firey death eating your soul.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Henners on June 22, 2006, 11:42:09 am
Careful though - hes a dirty anti-science luddite!  :P
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on June 22, 2006, 04:25:51 pm
I forgot to mention Mr. Chaos was banned for an amazing 10 minutes.
 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Henners on June 22, 2006, 11:21:02 pm
MY GOD!

are you mad lava?!?! TEN WHOLE MINUTES???
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on June 23, 2006, 12:36:40 pm
Yes, it was a bit harsh, I guess that's the reason he came here

 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: UnplayedNamer on June 23, 2006, 06:47:52 pm
Quote from: "captain chaos"
:P Why the hell does LAVA CROFT have to spoil things . changing maps at will. kicking poeple not liked. must be an inferiority thing in real life something like that. Trem` is fantastic but not the only online game, i know a few people not wanting to play anymore. come LAVA grow up , ban me for having a say ,what ever i`ll get over it. but you need help. :evil:


Lots of people have problems with admins who don't know how to admin fairly and the answer is easy...just don't play on those servers (or just leave when the bad admin comes on).  Kinda pointless bitching about it on here.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rambone on June 23, 2006, 08:12:23 pm
Easy answer...just don't play on those servers. Lava's an asshat. So what? Just don't go to that server. Easy solution. Their server, their rules. I can start a server and kick anyone who isn't being a jerk.  Don't like it, too bad, just go to a different server. It's not like there isn't another server... /end_rant
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Thorn on June 23, 2006, 09:08:44 pm
Quote from: "rambone"
its not like there isn't another server... /end_rant


Not completely tru but fair enough, There dont seem to be many Non laggy uk servers apart from EKS.But hey i agree if an admin is being an ass so what, go somewhere else.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on June 24, 2006, 10:55:35 am
Quote from: "rambone"
Lava's an asshat.


Werent you banned from SATGNU for Griefing? Ah yes, you were.


[EDIT] Since this is going nowhere, may it be locked?
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Chojin on June 24, 2006, 11:25:18 am
Quote
Since this is going nowhere, may it be locked?


I second that!
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Thorn on June 24, 2006, 03:01:21 pm
tis not locked yet

<.>

But seriously why say this on forums?? whats going to happen,Ban admins from having servers? Seriously though,Why come here?
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rambone on June 24, 2006, 09:38:47 pm
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Quote from: "rambone"
Lava's an asshat.


Werent you banned from SATGNU for Griefing? Ah yes, you were.


[EDIT] Since this is going nowhere, may it be locked?


Oh yeah, I forgot name's are what you ban on? Don't think so...I actually play there a lot. If you banned someone named Rambone that was causing grief, good job, just don't ban people based on a name (that could have been abused by a griefer).
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on June 26, 2006, 11:05:53 pm
We ban people on ip obviously. And I empty most of the ban-list once in a while, obviously. That will probably explain why you can play there.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: trigger happy on June 26, 2006, 11:14:03 pm
People just get ticked when lava pwns them.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rambone on June 27, 2006, 12:53:15 am
Sigh, people still don't get it...you may have banned "a" Rambone, but it wasn't me. What pisses me off is when I join a server and I get kicked immediately, because I was just there griefing an hour earlier. What makes it even more annoying is when I haven't been online for days, so some other asshat has been using my name, er...the name I choose to go under (can't say it's MY name). I joined one server and saw some guy deconning Overmind and eggs, so I do a tell and let it be known what he was doing. Somehow that bitch could take my exact name...so he says I'm the impostor, yadda yadda. I get kicked, he laughs his ass off, fun. The moral of my bitching is don't think player "X" is gone, because you kick that name.
  Oh, has anyone seen the bug/exploit, whatever where the screen fills with text spam and everyone's views get reset, so their locked pointing down? That was some weird shit and I hope that guy doesn't decide to grief a lot...
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: [EVIL]Unknown on June 27, 2006, 12:58:12 am
i kinda understand the whole kick vote thing rambone..

thats y i always use a /rcon cancelvote whenever i see someone try to kick...

i may not be able to stop it when im not on server but when i am i do and immediatly ask y.. if someone says he griefer i sya what did he do and when did he do it

if they say other night or so and so i say well shit did he do it just now.. no well f u and stop calling votes only call it if someone did it recently.. if whole team agrees on accusation ill kick or ban personally..


heck i hate it when people call votes to kick me...on Beergarden where i admin of all places!!! saying im a haxor and no way i can have that good aim etc. etc.

again god bless /rcon cancelvote... should be included on all admin systems
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Chojin on June 27, 2006, 01:22:45 pm
My favorites:

/bind v say !cancelvote
/bind p say !spec999
/bind k say !kick UnnamedPlayer
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: epik on July 03, 2006, 04:08:02 pm
Lava Croft ftw! Don't flame him :(
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: tjw on July 03, 2006, 10:34:56 pm
Quote from: "[EVIL
Unknown"]
heck i hate it when people call votes to kick me...on Beergarden where i admin of all places!!! saying im a haxor and no way i can have that good aim etc. etc.

again god bless /rcon cancelvote... should be included on all admin systems


http://tjw.org/tremulous/TREMBOT.txt

There's a flag ('1') that you can give to an admin or level that prevents vote kick.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rasz_pl on July 03, 2006, 11:11:34 pm
I am seeing things or satgnu disabled map voting
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 04, 2006, 12:35:52 am
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
I am seeing things or satgnu disabled map voting

I guess you are seeing 'things'.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: The Chosen One on July 07, 2006, 07:59:32 pm
Me thinks Chaos is jealous.
Title: Admin Abuse
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 08, 2006, 02:57:50 pm
Yup, and you people aint the only one.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/384/adminabuse3kp.jpg

Too bad i forgot the SS key.

Quotes from Lava Corft:

You have no rights on this server!
Speak english ONLY (While he curses and speaks dutch himself rofl)
Stfu or get mute!
"PLAYERNAME" Has been banned from server (SATGNU) (reason; Dont like you)

Oh and this is also a good one;

Lavacroft was killed by DjPong
DjPong; PWND
DjPong has been muted  8)

 :roll: Just join other server, this SATGNU server is moderated by a selfish admin that ABUSES admincommands.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Kanarie on July 08, 2006, 04:52:27 pm
An admin is supposed to supervise the server and maintain it.

This does not mean an admin can kick people whenever they like to
or if they get flamed at.
Kicking is there for people who really missbehave.
Like teamkilling all the time or rasicm speaches or what ever like that.
And mapchanges i dont care if he does that but do it after the round has ended.
And admins don't have to be logged in while they play.

Second of all ther are no serverrules posted where-ever on satgnu.
so basicly everything is allowed by players.


But then again don't let people who can't
Take a loose
Take some critic
Take flaming
be an admin.
That is calling for trouble.

And admins at least first give warnings before you kick anyone.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Kanarie on July 08, 2006, 05:11:19 pm
And a few days back I builded a base, it was a good base well thats not the point atm.
but lava joined server started to build different.
well i builded it back like i had build it and kick.

Well that's admin abuse.
You can say different but it just is.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on July 08, 2006, 05:26:13 pm
Tz, lawl.

Lava rulez.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: jhaa on July 08, 2006, 06:00:55 pm
How about Kanarie and DjPong come talk about this matter in SATGNU Tremulous irc channel ( #satgnu in QuakeNet (irc.quakenet.org) ), instead of humiliating yourselves here.

I remember you two too well, you kept calling lava a noob and his base layout noobish layout. This resulted in me kicking you, and possibly ban if you came back immediately after the kick (can't remember).

Anyways, how we handle assholes in our server doesn't really have anything to do with Tremulous. So let's just stop whining about those bans, kicks and mutes here, mmkay?
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 08, 2006, 06:31:39 pm
Seriously, I was advised to just ignore this, but I cannot restrain myself:

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Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 08, 2006, 08:09:56 pm
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7164/rofl5jv.jpg

And after that they muted me and forced me to go to that shitty IRC channel of them   8)  yeah right.

And the funny thing is; IM NOT THE PERSON THAT CREATED THIS THREAD WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA  :D
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: vcxzet on July 08, 2006, 08:58:04 pm
Do not feed the troll; it is a trap!
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Seffylight on July 08, 2006, 09:00:09 pm
Quit being a lamer, DJ Pong. It's their server, they'll administrate it in any fashion they deem fit. Go play on another server if it bothers you, or go pay for your own so you can administrate in any way you want.

But you and the other people that have the problems with the SATGNU admins can keep your whining away from the forums, because nobody cares. Kthnx.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 08, 2006, 09:10:57 pm
8) Naah, i like being a bitch it's in my nature.

Rofl i was undercover on that server and a guy named "name" joined and said; Hey Lava you still a retard!? Whahaha, more people with the same opinion :wink:

Aah regarding your post; So you don't mind if a HACKER joins a server and comes to fuck things up? Using money bug, aimbotting and serverboot people?  :) Cool!
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Seffylight on July 08, 2006, 09:46:44 pm
I don't play on SATGNU, but I certainly don't bitch about it. Maybe you should try the same approach.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 08, 2006, 09:51:36 pm
;) Well, play on Satgnu when Lava and Jhaa are online. You will notice it.

And no, i wont till they banned me xD I get new (cheaper) ADSL connection soon so it doesn't bother me after that i will simply use an other name and play on rofl
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 10, 2006, 07:08:08 pm
8)

Lets see how nice lava can be;

1:
http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/7614/1bullshit9gg.jpg

2:
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/6205/2kickornot3dr.jpg

3:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3158/3kick0gw.jpg

4:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3920/4teamkil5dw.jpg
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Seffylight on July 10, 2006, 08:49:09 pm
Go Lava! Pwning newbies left and right.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: PIE on July 10, 2006, 09:15:50 pm
When it comes down to it if you don't like it there are other servers..
But really.. people should try to admin a bit more fairly... sometimes you like everyone on the server, you have a good team and the other team is good and its all bliss and some lousy admin comes in and just starts kicking people, changing maps.... turning the gravity off.... things like that and its really annoying, but you don't want to leave when your on an otherwise good server...
There should be less personal or unwarranted hasty action and more justice!.. i'm not saying anything about any particular admin.. this is just in general.. its not good to have an unhinged admin ever...
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 10, 2006, 09:27:47 pm
Well, im playing on an other server now since Lava is acting TOTALLY retard and I must say the admin overthere is SUPER! He gives noobs a chance and doesn't abuse his Ban/kickstick. He even explains newbies how they should play :o

He has nice scripts running on it like;
Someone decons Reactor/Overmind and leaves right away gets a ban :)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 11, 2006, 02:41:36 pm
Good for you, saves me the work of banning you.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: koke on July 11, 2006, 03:13:10 pm
Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
He even explains newbies how they should play :o

are you serious??

(http://www.saariselka.net/maalis04/kuvat/poromies.jpg)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rasz_pl on July 12, 2006, 06:21:38 am
Quote from: "koke"
Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
He even explains newbies how they should play :o

are you serious??

(http://www.saariselka.net/maalis04/kuvat/poromies.jpg)


what is so shocking about that? I often do that myselfe. Remember you too were a newbie at one point. I gladly help newbies with a clue. Its called _being friendly_.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Mwa on July 12, 2006, 11:23:58 am
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "koke"
Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
He even explains newbies how they should play :o

are you serious??

(http://www.saariselka.net/maalis04/kuvat/poromies.jpg)


what is so shocking about that? I often do that myselfe. Remember you too were a newbie at one point. I gladly help newbies with a clue. Its called _being friendly_.
Helping newbies? Being friendly? What kind of sick freaks are you?

Oh, and rasz, use underline for more effect. :D
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Great&GentleOrangeOfG on July 13, 2006, 11:54:27 pm
Lava's admin style actually makes Trem fun.

When he/she is on I don't see

a. Noob builders ruining the game (at least when I'm on Lava's team)
b. Lamers/griefers
c. Humans camping excessively, making the game boring.
d. Spamming

(A note on c. : if you think camping is necessary for humans, pls L2P
by spectating human team on satgnu - usually you don't have to wait
long before you see a human team that doesn't camp and works together. I bet this is because all the hardcore campers who refuse to L2P get kicked. AKKA can also have good human teams.)

Also many years of dealing with people IRL (ZOMG!11!!) have taught me how to be polite to Lava so I never have trouble with him/her.  :)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Mwa on July 14, 2006, 12:04:51 am
Quote from: "Great&GentleOrangeOfG"
Lava's admin style actually makes Trem fun.

When he/she is on I don't see

a. Noob builders ruining the game (at least when I'm on Lava's team)
b. Lamers/griefers
c. Humans camping excessively, making the game boring.
d. Spamming

(A note on c. : if you think camping is necessary for humans, pls L2P
by spectating human team on satgnu - usually you don't have to wait
long before you see a human team that doesn't camp and works together. I bet this is because all the hardcore campers who refuse to L2P get kicked. AKKA can also have good human teams.)

Also many years of dealing with people IRL (ZOMG!11!!) have taught me how to be polite to Lava so I never have trouble with him/her.  :)

No matter how dramaish he is, Lava's male. ;)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rasz_pl on July 14, 2006, 05:56:06 am
Quote from: "Great&GentleOrangeOfG"
Lava's admin style actually makes Trem fun.

When he/she is on I don't see

a. Noob builders ruining the game (at least when I'm on Lava's team)
b. Lamers/griefers
c. Humans camping excessively, making the game boring.
d. Spamming

(A note on c. : if you think camping is necessary for humans, pls L2P
by spectating human team on satgnu - usually you don't have to wait
long before you see a human team that doesn't camp and works together. I bet this is because all the hardcore campers who refuse to L2P get kicked. AKKA can also have good human teams.)

Also many years of dealing with people IRL (ZOMG!11!!) have taught me how to be polite to Lava so I never have trouble with him/her.  :)


I agree. There is only one thing I dont like. When Lava switches map at ~20mins of a game and then leaves. It pissed me off 2 times, but then again it would be boring 20 mins till SD soo I guess he is right after all :)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 14, 2006, 10:27:42 am
Rasz, I did that twice on games that did not last 20 minutes, but almost 40 minutes. In those 40 minutes not one human, or maybe just one, has left their base. I am always very loud with my STOP CAMPING OR I CHANGE MAP crying, which I do a few times then. When that is ignored, I change the map like I said. I do understand your problem with it and I will try not to do it anymore, but rather just try an SD vote or wait for SD.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 14, 2006, 02:34:59 pm
Well great to see servers with crappy selfish admins that gives the entire GAME a bad name.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Phenax on July 14, 2006, 02:43:57 pm
All admins are nub.  :x
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Thorn on July 14, 2006, 03:03:43 pm
no , just a few mins ago i wasnt even playign on satgnu and yet that asshole fucked it up.  i had lag of 200 but oh no , this is just an excuse because he has more frags . fucking asshole.  if thats the type of players tremulous has then im sorry but this is a waste of time being here. If it was just on satgnu this happened then fine , his server his rules but this was on db andromeda.

Look at me i won a match , its cause thorns a noob. U shall all look up to me as asshat croft
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Survivor on July 14, 2006, 03:14:50 pm
No need to breed hatred thorn, generally you are right, his rules apply only on his server. But to call him a bad admin because he is cocky for winning a game, that's not right. Just beat them at their own game next time.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Phenax on July 14, 2006, 03:18:00 pm
The problem with admins is that they are subjective.
An idealistic game needs no subjective admins patrolling the game.

I got my name changed for using "Hitler Owns Jew."
Offence to a Jew, yes.
Offence to a National Socialist no.

Subjective choice, yes.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Survivor on July 14, 2006, 03:25:23 pm
Quote from: "Phenax"
The problem with admins is that they are subjective.
An idealistic game needs no subjective admins patrolling the game.

I got my name changed for using "Hitler Owns Jew."
Offence to a Jew, yes.
Offence to a National Socialist no.

Subjective choice, yes.


An insult never offends everyone, if it did it would never be used or would be called cynical. Choices are always subjective since you choose out of yes or no and can't have both.
Would be different if the following example didn't apply but 99.9% of the time it does.

Take something like "Skinheads are all Homos".
Offence to a skinhead, yes; offence to a jew, no.
It would be removed.
No different from your example, there is no (positive) discrimination.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Phenax on July 14, 2006, 03:40:42 pm
Well, I can really care less about the name anyone uses. The game is meant to be played.

I honestly don't know anyone who is truly offended by a name.

I was kicked from the SST server for saying "I ate him like a jewcake."
This must be so offending.

After returning a few minutes later. I get banned for seven days. Under this exact reason:
"you dont come back after a kick. moron"

Such a GREAT reason to ban me!

People who complain about names are little babies or assholes. People who complain about language are the same way.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Survivor on July 14, 2006, 03:43:22 pm
I don't care about names as well. Let them have it, but your first argument was about  subjectiveness of admins, which in that case simply did not hold true. If any admin wants to enforce those rules it is their right on their server. By playing on a server you submit yourself to those rules. Don't like the rules, look for a server with rules you do like.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: tjw on July 14, 2006, 04:26:29 pm
Quote from: "Phenax"

I got my name changed for using "Hitler Owns Jew."


Quote from: "Phenax"

I was kicked from the SST server for saying "I ate him like a jewcake."
This must be so offending.


Maybe this admin just noticed a pattern of anti-semitism?  Now, I'm not saying bigots should be banned from Trem, just that server operators have every justification for muting, renaming, kicking, or banning anyone expressing views they don't agree with.

If someone comes on my server and starts bashing ethnic, religous, or cultural group I will tend to take action.   If I don't take action, other players may infer that I am in agreement.

Quote from: "Phenax"

People who complain about names are little babies or assholes. People who complain about language are the same way.


It's niave to assume that no language could ever offend you, everyone is offended by something.

If you don't like the way all the servers are being run, put down some cash and start your own server.  You could even call it "Phenax's Neo Nazi Corner".  Otherwise please shut up about how you're being persecuted.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rasz_pl on July 14, 2006, 07:26:35 pm
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Rasz, I did that twice on games that did not last 20 minutes, but almost 40 minutes. In those 40 minutes not one human, or maybe just one, has left their base. I am always very loud with my STOP CAMPING OR I CHANGE MAP crying, which I do a few times then. When that is ignored, I change the map like I said. I do understand your problem with it and I will try not to do it anymore, but rather just try an SD vote or wait for SD.


Yes, sure. So SD vote is an alias for "MWA nade the reactor, i'm tired of waitiong" in 20 minute of the game? Looks like I'l have to disconnect every time I see u on any server.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Howitzer on July 14, 2006, 07:37:31 pm
Resz, you started bitching on me and that [US] dude for nothing?
For me, you lost any credit you could possibly have had :)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Rekov on July 15, 2006, 01:15:10 am
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Dear Captain Chaos,

First of all, it is a lot more productive to contact me directly, instead of making a fool out of yourself on this forum. Posting here will not get your ban removed, it actually enforces it. The moment you start behaving, is the moment you are welcome to SATGNU again. There are more than enough players willing to fill your spot.

Yours truly,

Lava Croft


I am 100% behind the original poster. After my whole beergarden incident, i have come to understand what genre of people admins are.

Lets analyize Lava Croft's post here:

1. He immediatly attempts to slander the original poster, calling him a fool. This is rediculou, as the OP is correct in that the behavior of randomly changing maps, ect., is acceptable. (It is on his server, that why I dont play on it)

2. The second mistake Lava Croft made, was calling the OPs rational and reasonable behavior missbehaving. What is more missbehaved: Switching maps, kicking people, ect. at a whim, or simply making a post?


To Lava Croft: If it wasnt true, not saying anything at all would have made it seem that way. Since you said something, i will believe its true.

What I have learned from the Beer Garden incident:\
People will trust an admin over the player every time. Admins will always come out on top, because they always have the power to turn someone off when they begin to threaten them. In my complaint about the beergarden admin, i was accused of lying, whining, ect ect ect. I made a single post, that explained the reason for my being banned, and it was immediatly dissmissed. If that how admins handle people in public, i cant even begin to immagine what happens when nobody is there to watch.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Phenax on July 15, 2006, 03:50:20 am
I think I'm going to start "Phenax's Neo-Nazi Corner"
Thanks..

NO JEWZ ALLOWED!!11
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Rekov on July 15, 2006, 05:26:31 am
Quote from: "Phenax"
I think I'm going to start "Phenax's Neo-Nazi Corner"
Thanks..

NO JEWZ ALLOWED!!11


cartman FTMFW
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 15, 2006, 08:30:11 am
You guys do not understand, do you? Like Who and dolby already said in other posts, how server owners and its admins administrate a server is their business, and theirs only. Coming to the forums flaming will not aid you in anything other than making yourself look like a fool and getting a permaban.

[PS] Rasz, I wasn't very happy with Mwa nading stuff, but Mwa did have a     fucking good point, since he was fed up with his entire team camping the base. He asked me if he could nade that camperbase and I said I would not stop him. You know that on SATGNU heavy camping is dealt with in a swift and sometimes harsh manner, but this is the only thing that actually works, since asking to stop camping just does shit.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 15, 2006, 08:38:25 am
Quote from: "Thorn"
Look at me i won a match , its cause thorns a noob. U shall all look up to me as asshat croft


Hah, boy. You were on SATGNU running your mouth about how you would own me. Naturally, I owned you and you left crying about lag. Now, I'm no fool so I did a player search for your sorry ass and followed you to Andromeda to own your ass there. I behaved perfectly on Andromeda like I always do in places where I am a guest (Just like you are on SATGNU, mind you), and I left when the game was over. So please do not come crying here about how you got skooled, only telling half the story. Oh, besides, your ping has not been above 52 for all that match, so please. On andromeda your connection was fine too, with a 40 ping orso. So Bitch Please, stop moaning.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rasz_pl on July 15, 2006, 10:03:30 am
Quote from: "Howitzer"
Resz, you started bitching on me and that [US] dude for nothing?
For me, you lost any credit you could possibly have had :)


what? you mean voting antisemites is bitching on a server? Are you having some personality split? http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1218

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

[PS] Rasz, I wasn't very happy with Mwa nading stuff


thats weird, you were very fond of the idea at that time.

Quote from: "Lava Croft"
, but Mwa did have a fucking good point, since he was fed up with his entire team camping the base. He asked me if he could nade that camperbase and I said I would not stop him. You know that on SATGNU heavy camping is dealt with in a swift and sometimes harsh manner, but this is the only thing that actually works, since asking to stop camping just does shit.


thats weird, MWA was the only human sitting on a turret in the base (literally, he even naded reactor from that turret spot).

I strongly encourage you to write some server rules with definition of a camping humans. Killing OM twice in 20 minutes of a game seem to fit in yours. That and calling humans stupid because they die attacking. Its really not fun to play with you if you got one of those moods :(.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 15, 2006, 11:23:48 am
Rasz, there is no discussion possible, You were the only human leaving the base now and then, on dumbass lone wolf attacks which obviously stranded in Acid Tubes and Dragoons. When Mwa naded the base, your entire team was hugging the defenses for a good 20 minutes already. Also, just to clarify, Mwa pays to keep SATGNU running, therefore he has rights, whereas you do not. Do remember that it is only by the good will of the SATGNU owner/admins that you are allowed to play there, same goes for any other player. SATGNU is always chockful with players, and 95% of them do not cause any trouble at all. I am not changing my ways for that 5%, they can go play on one of the other numerous servers. No need to go flaming on the forum, like I already told you. Also, if you really think you were mistreated, you can always try to contact the SATGNU owner, since he overrules all the admins. Don't get your hopes up though, he he.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: maci on July 15, 2006, 12:01:36 pm
yup

if there is any problem please come to #satgnu on irc.quakenet.org and just drop me a line. i ill respond in time.
and for mwa nading the base:
i can totally understand him...
dont want to count the times when i was really frustrated about my team just camping and me doing the work.

BUT

if its really a good game and everone is paticipating .. nading the base then is a reason for being banned :P
imo mwa was right .. i would kinda do the same ..
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: vcxzet on July 15, 2006, 02:28:04 pm
(http://digilander.libero.it/laracroftvertigo/Lara%20Croft%20index(10).jpg)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Mario on July 15, 2006, 04:00:26 pm
how the fuck did this thread get to 71 posts
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: PanKot on July 15, 2006, 05:50:03 pm
73 actually
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 16, 2006, 05:41:08 pm
I'm not amazed by the thread size... :roll:
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Pilo T on July 16, 2006, 09:19:49 pm
Yeah, Lava Croft is way overpowered. :roll:
Why is this in the feedback section? :-?
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 17, 2006, 04:48:43 pm
Because people think this is the place to ventilate feedback about a privately owned Tremulous server.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Mwa on July 17, 2006, 04:53:33 pm
Quote from: "maci"
imo mwa was right .. i would kinda do the same ..

Though, not as cooly :o
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Howitzer on July 17, 2006, 07:16:22 pm
The Satgnu server is a server which does the things i'd love to do with the game-spoiling assholes around.

It's maybe unethical, but keeps the game fun.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: PHREAK on July 17, 2006, 07:27:07 pm
While I understand that they want a 1337 server, with only semi-pro and pro players, making the server public isn't the best choice there.
But like many have said, their server, their rules.

Can we close this moronic topic please?

People will never learn to go to irc and chat with lava or the rest of the admins so they don't even deserve to get an answer here.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Norfenstein on July 17, 2006, 09:54:33 pm
Quote from: "Pilo T"
Yeah, Lava Croft is way overpowered. :roll:

yeah, move Lava Croft to stage 3 or add a spin-up delay for crying out loud
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Great&GentleOrangeOfG on July 17, 2006, 10:19:20 pm
Quote
Pilo T wrote:
Yeah, Lava Croft is way overpowered.  

yeah, move Lava Croft to stage 3 or add a spin-up delay for crying out loud


Lava Croft = Adv Tyrant. Everytime the aliens get Lava Croft it's gg   :(  . Should cost 14 evo!  :O  (Get 9 pts as Tyrant.)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 18, 2006, 04:26:59 pm
:eek:

Still, the amount of players having fun on SATGNU heavily outweighs the amount of people acting like retards on SATGNU. Therefore, I deem this topic obsolete, and again I would like to ask a moderator to close it. This thread is an entire Stupid Posts forum  :roll:
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 18, 2006, 05:50:44 pm
Pff yeah right, you want to close this thread to prevent more damage to your image AND dont forget the Satgnu server. (which is already bad as hell)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Norfenstein on July 18, 2006, 06:08:57 pm
Satgnu has only become more attractive after reading this thread. People don't actually want to play with whiners posting quixotic rants on the forum. At least, I know I don't.
Title: Re: LAWL
Post by: Rippy on July 20, 2006, 02:48:11 pm
Quote from: "Mwa"
Hey there, Miss Chaos.
Welcome to the Interweb, where the Admin's word is LAW
If Lava wants to boot you, Lava can boot you.
If Lava wishes to change the map, Lava changes the map.
This is called life.
:)


If that's your idea of "life", I recommend you peel yourself your computer chair and go outside.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 20, 2006, 02:51:29 pm
Hay, just lay this topic to rest. Your input is obsolete and will only rack up this moronic thread again.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Rekov on July 20, 2006, 10:52:39 pm
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Because people think this is the place to ventilate feedback about a privately owned Tremulous server.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:


Lava Croft is a non-factor who thinks he is importand because his mom got him a server.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Survivor on July 20, 2006, 11:11:16 pm
Does it matter?

Remember I have never played with Lava and only know him from his forum posts.

Here follows the shortened version of this entire thread

Yes he might seem arrogant, maybe he is, but since this is a forum you can skip his posts if you hate him so much.
About him messing up games, the most important thing has already been mentioned; His server, His rules.

If this topic was about warning people what a supposed jackass Lava is then i think 3 pages should be enough.
If you people keep posting about it here you'll just make yourselves look like assholes for dragging on a done deal.

Shortened version:
Quit whining, to both sides.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on July 21, 2006, 05:37:50 am
Oh, and, its not Lava's server, the owner is Maci....
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: St. Anger on July 21, 2006, 08:29:08 am
I play on Satgnu alot and never have any problems ..... Lava Croft is a good person IMO.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: 0z on July 21, 2006, 09:56:09 am
I think Lava is cool, he is just trying to keep the server clean and most people happy.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: vcxzet on July 21, 2006, 10:12:36 am
(http://www.binaryzone.org/gfx/zone5.jpg)
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 21, 2006, 01:36:17 pm
Haha, that's the second pic of Lara Croft posted here, I should permaban you all!  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Seriously though, like Mietz said, I do not own SATGNU, maci does. maci gave me and jhaa full rights to SATGNU, alongside himself. Since maci is somewhat more of a laid back person than I am, he mostly lets me do that replies on this thread, since he knows my heart is with SATGNU, and that my heart is in the right place for both players, as wel as admins. Day in, day out I am having the best of fun on SATGNU, and I see the same people coming back daily, which proves to me there is nothing wrong with SATGNU at all, or it's admins. Anyone who does not like SATGNU should absolutely avoid it, and go play on one of the other servers, who would be happy to have them. Just as happy as we are to let you go.

To all people who are having good games on SATGNU, please help me ignore this thread, by not replying to it no more:) It's always so hard for me not to reply...
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: PIE on July 21, 2006, 06:28:31 pm
Nooo.. it was a picture of a lava lamp, the figurine was incidental i imagine :D..

I really don't see why you hate this topic so much.. if anything you were well defended here.. soon you will have fans etc.. all because of this thread.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 21, 2006, 07:03:04 pm
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
since he knows my heart is with SATGNU, and that my heart is in the right place for both players, as wel as admins.  

No life imo. Get a girl... eeuh, sorry i forgot you aint straigt.

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Day in, day out I am having the best of fun on SATGNU

Ofcourse YOU do, other players don't... Aah well, as long YOU can have fun ^^
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on July 21, 2006, 07:15:02 pm
Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
since he knows my heart is with SATGNU, and that my heart is in the right place for both players, as wel as admins.  

No life imo. Get a girl... eeuh, sorry i forgot you aint straigt.

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Day in, day out I am having the best of fun on SATGNU

Ofcourse YOU do, other players don't... Aah well, as long YOU can have fun ^^



uh ah, can't touch this.

Not being straight is fun, you should try that, the variety is much much bigger.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 21, 2006, 09:59:50 pm
Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
since he knows my heart is with SATGNU, and that my heart is in the right place for both players, as wel as admins.  

No life imo. Get a girl... eeuh, sorry i forgot you aint straigt.

Correct, I am gay and I do have a boyfriend, we live together.

Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Day in, day out I am having the best of fun on SATGNU

Ofcourse YOU do, other players don't... Aah well, as long YOU can have fun ^^


http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1343
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: rasz_pl on July 22, 2006, 02:45:26 pm
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Correct, I am gay and I do have a boyfriend, we live together.


I just knew I'm not alone. HA! :P
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 22, 2006, 02:58:32 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Correct, I am gay and I do have a boyfriend, we live together.


I just knew I'm not alone. HA! :P


I would also like to state that I defy any kind of 'omg we are gay so we must stick together' kind of thing.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Howitzer on July 22, 2006, 04:27:44 pm
This thread keeps getting funnier and funnier  :D
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Glunnator on July 22, 2006, 05:31:14 pm
I might be Insulting my country here but so what:

Dutch people are usually asses. Not because they want to be, but because they grew up like that. They think it's cool. They think it's GOOD being cool.
They have no idea qhat they are talking about and love to insult ppl 'cause they think it's COOL. Now, i'm not saying they are all like that, or that this is lava croft (good name, actually, lava croft ;) ) I am just saying that dutch ppl have been raised BADLY. and even some who weren't, got infected by their so-called 'friends'.

That was all i had to say.
That is all i'm gonna say
Now i say LOCK THIS THREAD
And now i shut my big insultive mouth
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: PIE on July 23, 2006, 02:09:45 am
>< NEVER LOCK THE THREAD... COMMIE   :x
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Lava Croft on July 23, 2006, 09:35:50 am
Quote from: "Glunnator"
I might be Insulting my country here but so what:

Dutch people are usually asses. Not because they want to be, but because they grew up like that. They think it's cool. They think it's GOOD being cool.
They have no idea qhat they are talking about and love to insult ppl 'cause they think it's COOL. Now, i'm not saying they are all like that, or that this is lava croft (good name, actually, lava croft ;) ) I am just saying that dutch ppl have been raised BADLY. and even some who weren't, got infected by their so-called 'friends'.

That was all i had to say.
That is all i'm gonna say
Now i say LOCK THIS THREAD
And now i shut my big insultive mouth


Glunnator, stil.

Jij weet niets over mijn sociale milieu, opvoeding of scholing, net zomin als ik iets over het jouwe weet. Uit je stukje maak ik op dat je zelf aan de onderkant van de sociale ladder bungelt, vechtend om te overleven. Stop met het generaliseren van Nederlanders, zeker wanneer je generaliseren combineert met projecteren. Er zijn meer Nederlands op de dit forum hier en dit is best beledigend. Denk even na voordat je wat post.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Teiman on July 23, 2006, 02:08:29 pm
Quote from: "vcxzet"
(http://www.binaryzone.org/gfx/zone5.jpg)


 * new C64. check
 * 1541 C64 loader. check
 * C64 tape loader. check

Nice!
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on July 23, 2006, 02:32:30 pm
Quote from: "Teiman"
Quote from: "vcxzet"
(http://www.binaryzone.org/gfx/zone5.jpg)


 * new C64. check
 * 1541 C64 loader. check
 * C64 tape loader. check

Nice!


omg you stoled amstrad
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: Dj_Pong on July 23, 2006, 05:55:49 pm
Quote from: "Glunnator"
I might be Insulting my country here but so what:

Dutch people are usually asses. Not because they want to be, but because they grew up like that. They think it's cool. They think it's GOOD being cool.
They have no idea qhat they are talking about and love to insult ppl 'cause they think it's COOL. Now, i'm not saying they are all like that, or that this is lava croft (good name, actually, lava croft ;) ) I am just saying that dutch ppl have been raised BADLY. and even some who weren't, got infected by their so-called 'friends'.

That was all i had to say.
That is all i'm gonna say
Now i say LOCK THIS THREAD
And now i shut my big insultive mouth

AGREED! Dutchies are big time selfish morons  8) Thank god I aint one of those.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on July 23, 2006, 07:06:04 pm
Quote from: "Dj_Pong"
Quote from: "Glunnator"
I might be Insulting my country here but so what:

Dutch people are usually asses. Not because they want to be, but because they grew up like that. They think it's cool. They think it's GOOD being cool.
They have no idea qhat they are talking about and love to insult ppl 'cause they think it's COOL. Now, i'm not saying they are all like that, or that this is lava croft (good name, actually, lava croft ;) ) I am just saying that dutch ppl have been raised BADLY. and even some who weren't, got infected by their so-called 'friends'.

That was all i had to say.
That is all i'm gonna say
Now i say LOCK THIS THREAD
And now i shut my big insultive mouth

AGREED! Dutchies are big time selfish morons  8) Thank god I aint one of those.


yes they are, but they can be topped with the new race called "DJ_Pongos".

DJ_Pongos react truly strange to anything that has bigger testicles than them.
Title: LAVA CROFT (bad or what)
Post by: dolby on July 24, 2006, 06:31:42 am
You walk into a terrible, drama filled thread.  You have the choice to go left, right or Lock Thread.  Which do you choose?

Hint:  Lock Thread.

Guys, as much as I'm sure SourceForge loves us wasting their resources with such intriguing thread topics such as 'Player X is such a noob.  Agree/Disagree' and the ever fascinating 'Server X admins are asses.  Agree/Asdfkalsfjalksd?' these threads are really a waste of space.  Unless Timbo wishes otherwise, I will be locking them from now on.

And for the love of god, the Feedback forum is for TREMULOUS the game not feedback for Player X.   Please create your own forums on your own websites to discuss such topics.