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my "sniper rifle" dilemma

Started by Rippy, August 13, 2006, 10:39:14 PM

Dustin

Quote from: kraagenskulYes, 200 posts, but he obviously doesn't play enough, he just posts to the forum all day.

OT: We do have someone here who has over 200 posts, but .. er, all he does is post to the forum all day. We call him DIGI_Byte. Actually, that's what he calls himself. I don't know if he knows English.. or plays Tremulous...

EDIT: pwned by Mietz. While I was typing/previewing this message, too..  :cry:

Teiman

Quote from: Dustin
Quote from: kraagenskulYes, 200 posts, but he obviously doesn't play enough, he just posts to the forum all day.

OT: We do have someone here who has over 200 posts, but .. er, all he does is post to the forum all day. We call him DIGI_Byte. Actually, that's what he calls himself. I don't know if he knows English.. or plays Tremulous...

EDIT: pwned by Mietz. While I was typing/previewing this message, too..  :cry:

Yea, maybe he have not played Tremulous, but he for sure have played DIGI-pokemonsters that have such much cooler monsters than Trem.

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: Teiman
Quote from: Dustin
Quote from: kraagenskulYes, 200 posts, but he obviously doesn't play enough, he just posts to the forum all day.

OT: We do have someone here who has over 200 posts, but .. er, all he does is post to the forum all day. We call him DIGI_Byte. Actually, that's what he calls himself. I don't know if he knows English.. or plays Tremulous...

EDIT: pwned by Mietz. While I was typing/previewing this message, too..  :cry:

Yea, maybe he have not played Tremulous, but he for sure have played DIGI-pokemonsters that have such much cooler monsters than Trem.

hey, nothing against digimon!

Seffylight

Yeah, not everything with Digi in the name is inherently worthless and pointless. ;)
Stop it. Seriously.

Dj_Pong

Quote from: Teiman
Yea, maybe he have not played Tremulous, but he for sure have played DIGI-pokemonsters that have such much cooler monsters than Trem.

I want Armagemon in Tremulous xD

Rippy

lol, this thread is officially hijacked. And although it's true that a lot of people are dicks in the suggestion threads, it's also true that the post count DOES NOT matter. The post count measures the quantity of your replies, not the quality :P
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

Juno

Quote from: Rippy



Here we go, I've got a slightly less crappy alternative. The weapon (which would have to be an energy weapon for this to make sense) would take a mandatory 1 second to charge up before the shot (or beam) is released. And while charging, it starts to shake so violently that your view starts vibrating, much like the chaingun. Doesn't affect the accuracy at all, just makes it much harder to aim well, or to get a perfect shot you need to line it up BEFORE you start charging. Does around 120 damage a shot (it's an s3 weapon, it should at least kill dretches and basis in 1hit), giving it 60 damage per second (1 second to charge, 1 second cooldown) compared to the MD's 38. I'm picking 60dps because it fits nicely between the prifle and chaingun, which both have their own drawbacks to compensate for the high damage (slow shots / innacurate, respectively)



this imo would be a camping weapon again



if you went to attack....


shoots adv goon, oh shit 2 seconds til i can fire again, omg dretch pwned

goons will just take the hit and kill you in the two seconds unless your able to dodge, while probably being attacked by dretches maras and basis


also, tyrants would just pwn you, and as i said before, you can just chase them with a chaingun instead



would only work for uber l337 players and even then , they would just be dodge half the time un able to hit the dretches etc



just my opinion tho


stop flaming the guy

Rippy

Well, it isn't any different from the luci, which also takes 2 secs to charge. I guess it could have an alt-fire that does less damage but fires faster.

Primary fire: Takes 1 second to charge up plasma, 1 second cooldown
Secondary fire: Lack of charging means the plasma isn't aimed into a beam, and instead splatters out shot-gun style, doing maybe half or 3/4 the damage that a shotgun does. Would still have the 1 second cooldown.

Then it's basically a hitscan version of the luci, and would be priced about the same. Would give people a bit of a choice in s3 weapons.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

[db@]Megabite

Quote from: Rippylol, this thread is officially hijacked. And although it's true that a lot of people are dicks in the suggestion threads, it's also true that the post count DOES NOT matter. The post count measures the quantity of your replies, not the quality :P

I apply for this to be crowned with the "insight of the month" award! Truer words have never been said! ;)

Danny

Stannum

To the faggots who spout fuck off:

Stop gobbling penis.
Blue © 2004 Natural Selection.

Norfenstein

Quote from: kraagenskulWhat a bunch of pricks on this board... somebody makes a suggestion that they acknowledge might not work for some reason and everybody just trashes him.
Agreed. A rational, calmly worded post deserves a rational, calmly worded reply.

Rippy: The mass driver used to do just 12 damage more than it does now and was the best weapon humans had. Being able to hit things from any distance is a huge advantage. Even if you're just considering damage-per-second you have to take into account the time when an alien is approaching you or fleeing from you: the mdriver can do consistent damage then while the chaingun or shotgun damage/time ratio just drops. I don't have any problem killing marauders or dragoons with it (though it's only preferable for those classes alone when it's the end of the game and the last remaining aliens are just running from everything).

That doesn't rule out the possibility of high class sniper rifle: the problem with any sort of "super" weapon is that the only way to balance one is to make it cheap for both sides: the person wielding it has to suffer some penalty severe enough so that the weapon is frustrating to use in all cases except when it kills some high level enemy, which is just as frustrating for that player.

Rippy

Quote from: NorfensteinThat doesn't rule out the possibility of high class sniper rifle: the problem with any sort of "super" weapon is that the only way to balance one is to make it cheap for both sides: the person wielding it has to suffer some penalty severe enough so that the weapon is frustrating to use in all cases except when it kills some high level enemy, which is just as frustrating for that player.
You've summed it all up nicely. That's what the luci is: extremely powerful, but often difficult/annoying to use. I wanted something a lot like that, exept it's hitscan and does less damage to compensate for it. Something to replace the MD late-game.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

Mario

Gotta love DJ_Pong's line at the bottom of his posts
I dont give a fuck meter. 7/6/10

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DIGI_Byte

Quote from: MarioGotta love DJ_Pong's line at the bottom of his posts
what is the troll talking about?

Rippy

Quote from: DIGI_Byte
Quote from: MarioGotta love DJ_Pong's line at the bottom of his posts
what is the troll talking about?
1. Are you aware of what a troll is?
2. How does your post contribute to the subject any more than the post you're mocking?
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

Rekov

your right about the camping thing. Other thing that would happen is the humans take out the alien base without ever having to get near its defenses. maye snipe from a jetpack or something like that.

beerbitch

I played with a guy named Zoomified once, and he totally owned every alien in the server with the mass driver, he was just a good shot. Its got enough punch, trust me.

_bb
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

kevlarman

Quote from: beerbitchI played with a guy named Zoomified once, and he totally owned every alien in the server with the mass driver, he was just a good shot. Its got enough punch, trust me.

_bb
what are you talking about? he just sits next to his turrets all day long.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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