SamOz's MImod (Mirai Ikusa Visual & Sound version)

[SamOz]

Yes, RAKninja-Decepticon, you've definitely forgotten me. I've only worked sometimes as an English teacher to "help out". Not my my main job at all. 

Now you're lying about what I've claimed in attribution. You're full of shit just like Dev-HC. I definitely did NOT claim them all. You're outright lying now.

It's obvious that you're nothing better than Dev-HC, yet another lying troll who just makes up shit all the time and cares zero for actual truth.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Yes, RAKninja-Decepticon, you've definitely forgotten me. I've only worked sometimes as an English teacher to "help out". Not my my main job at all.  

Now you're lying about what I've claimed in attribution. You're full of shit just like Dev-HC. I definitely did NOT claim them all. You're outright lying now.

It's obvious that you're nothing better than Dev-HC, yet another lying troll who just makes up shit all the time and cares zero for actual truth.

again, by releasing without PROPER ATTRIBUTION you are claiming everything as your own original work.  by your own admission, you released without said attribution (bold and underlined text is my emphasis added) -

It took bloody ages to make those textures and sounds which I created, and I gave attribution already for the source of those which I did not do, they're neither 'cheap' or simply ripped off. I put hundreds of hours of work into this, but you'll have to take it or leave it for the present. I modified content certainly, that's why it's called a Mod. Every mod on this site has built upon the work of other mods before it. However, the majority of what's in this mod is the result of my hard work, not others. That's nearly every Alien sound, Human sound, all of their skins, many of the other rougher-looking textures used in the maps, and a helluva a lot of finicky re-writing of scripts to get the 'look' that I and my son desired. Attributions are written everywhere in the scripts as required by common decency. The metadata contains the name and source of the sounds. You can use the Alien sounds and Human sounds elsewhere, for other mods if you like. All of those which were made under the name OnlyTheGhosts, are mine. I made those. I give permission to use them in Unvanquished, or anywhere else, whatever. Doesn't bother me, as long as you give attribution.

There's no more copyright text in this mod than there is in most of the mods on this site, so it's not exceptional there. There are copyright texts are in the game-playing changing version of the mod, not in this non-game play changing version. Since I'm not likely to work on this mod any further for awhile, you'll have to accept this version as is. If I find the time available, MAYBE then I will include that. IF people are actually interested in using the mod.

point of fact, you never mentioned to me that teaching english is not your "main job".  you've only described yourself as an english teacher in japan to me.

again, if you make a claim that something is a lie, refute it with evidence.  not doing so makes you a hypocrite, as you are calling dev/hc out on saying you are wrong but not how.  you are also incorrectly calling me out on the same thing, despite my taking great pains to explain your errors to you.
to put it into context, if you publish an academic paper containing bits quoted from other papers, and you do not footnote/attribute the quoted text, you are a plagiarizer, because you have defacto claimed credit for material that is not yours by way of lack of attribution.

edit: fixed(?) mangled bbcode.

[SamOz]

Point of fact, I mentioned that English teaching was a job that I did occasionally to help out, that's all. I've told others what my main job is, the rumours have certainly done their rounds over the years.

Lying won't get you anywhere. I have never claimed that every asset in the mod was mine. You're full of shit just like Dev-HC is. I've already given proper attribution to many other people, so drop the lying and deal with reality. The evidence is the mod, what's written in the mod, and the metadata in the sounds. No where does it say "Hey, I made EVERYTHING", so you're just lying. I also did not plagiarize, and you're full of shit claiming that I did. To plagiarize, I would've had to claim that something created by another was created by me, and that I definitely did not do. I have never claimed anywhere in the mod the creation of any asset that I didn't create, and I have given attribution already to those who did create those assets or were the source of the inspiration that I worked from. Your attempt to twist facts by claiming that I was "defacto" giving attribution only to myself is utter, complete, thoroughly nonsensical garbage.

RAKninja-Decepticon, you've just demonstrated that you're even more dishonest in debate than Dev-HC. He lied far more cleverly too, while you outright try to twist facts like a pretzel pretending that by redefining the meaning of words that you can change reality. Trolls, both of you, neither of you capable of sticking to the truth because you're too intent on bullshitting excuses for personal harassment.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Your support of Dev-HC's first post is Ad Hominem. Calling it 'unflattering' is just another bullshit way of trying to play down what it really is; an insane, badly written, insulting, misleading personal attack - and the claims in that first post by Dev-HC are just a mix of lies and insults with no truthful basis at all, in spite your personal opinion. Your 'opinion' doesn't magically turn Dev-HC's bullshit and insults into FACTUAL statements.

As soon as you chose to support crappy insults and lies like that, you declared that your pretence at intellectual objectivity and rational debate is nothing more than a fraud.

You just blew it, big time, utterly destroying whatever shred of credibility you might've claimed in debate as far as most visitors are concerned. Recall the old saying, "The mud sticks most to those who throw it", and you just joined a troll, Dev-HC, in the mud-throwing game. His bullshit remains bullshit, just as yours does. And it definitely IS bullshit. Personal attacks are Ad Hominem. Attempting to claim that the words mean something other than what they actually say, is rather dishonest of you.

The post that you responded with was filled with the same bullshit and misleading statements as Dev-HC had already posted earlier. Dev-HC lied about what I've stated previously and about what's in the mod. You simply supported by repetition the same lies that Dev-HC used. If you're unable or unwilling to recognise a lie from Dev-HC, that's irrelevant to the fact that Dev-HC did in fact lie. Quite a lot. He lied when he claimed that I was saying "almost all" of the assets in the mod were my creation, and he lied when he claimed that I didn't give any attributions. Basically, he's full of shit, and you're simply backing up that bullshit by claiming that I published without attribution, which is an outright lie from you; the mod includes attributions aplenty. Likely the mod has more attributions than any other packaged mod in this forum. So, Dev-HC lied, and you're lying too. I've seen Dev-HC lie to an absurd extent in an IRC conversation, spouting BS and abuse like he was shovelling shit from a truck.

It seems that you and Dev-HC are both of the same mindset, you both behave like trolls. Neither of you takes the time to spell correctly, or write a sentence properly. A sentence begins with a capital letter and ends with a period. It must contain a noun and a verb, a subject and a predicate. See here for more detailed explanations. You want to present yourself as well educated, unfortunately, your inability to write a sentence or spell correctly discredits you. If you can't write correctly, than you can't defend an argument effectively either. Trolls don't need to write sentences properly, they just yell 'faggot' and 'motherfucker' relying on copy & paste of huge irrelevant paragraphs from other websites to feign an education which they never experienced.

By narrowly re-defining and reinterpreting what was stated by me already quite clearly, you're engaging in a deceptive portrayal of the argument. When you blanket state that something is 'wrong' only on the thin premise of being an analogy while ignoring the core point made, you're dishonestly avoiding the presentation of any logical counterpoint. You then choose to keep carrying on as if that non-existent counterpoint had been presented, and the argument dismissed. The core point remains standing, however. Just as Dev-HC tries to dismiss the accusation that he's lying about what I've previously stated by insisting on his own personal reinterpretation of what was stated by me, you're being equally dishonest in debate. You both play word games as if they were a magical "abracadabra" for winning arguments while you toss in huge amounts of personal attack, and continue to avoid presenting a true logical counterpoint.

If you wanted a reasonable reply to your post, then you should've begun in kind with a reasonable post. One where you'd checked what was going on, what the truth of the matter was, instead of recycling/repeating the same lying crap and Ad Hominem that Dev-HC is shovelling.

enough. the amount of new, potentially valid points that you raise with each post is monotonically non-increasing, and was at 0 for the last N posts, where N >= 1. all you're doing is repeating the statements that "Dev-HC is lying", "Dev-HC is full of crap", and "Dev-HC has no credibility", surrounded by lots of non-intellectual gibberish and other irrelevant nonsense.

you're ignoring key points that i've raised, namely an "injunction":

make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

you're trying to disparage many of the key statements that affect your "reputation on the internet" once recognized: your're repeatedly saying "i have never said that i own almost all of the contents" (note -- i repeat --: i never claimed that you explicitly did), which attacks a not-so-significant component of the reason for why you're a fuckface, thus detracting attention from a more important point: you're a fuckface for believing -- or tirelessly pretending to believe -- that you own the textures that you've trivially remixed by applying filters and brushes over the originals; you actually don't own them.

you are still unable to back up any of your claims against me with quotes. that is understandable, since you're WRONG. and you know that; thus, you're not just unintentionally WRONG, but you're actually intentionally lying, even when you say that i am lying, just trolling, and so on.

if you pull an unfounded statement -- "<X> is true" -- out of your ass, then that statement will receive a "WRONG" reply. i have no obligation to provide a detailed explanation, because none is required: the explanation is always that "<X> is not true". for somewhat-founded, but nontheless WRONG statements, i will give a "WRONG" reply, usually (but not always, depending on the retardedness of the statement) followed by an argument that topples the (false) justification of the statement.

As for the USA's copyright laws, they don't have extra-judicial jurisdiction and can't be enforced internationally when the product isn't made in the USA, is made by residents of another nation, and used by residents of another nation. When that product is virtual data on the internet, the legal issues become extremely complex and the court decisions controversial. You can post reams of C&P trying to claim otherwise, but that's what the reality is. Even the juridiction and legality of open source documentation is highly questionable. Nevertheless, you've persisted in repeating the same dumbass lies claiming that I didn't give attribution and that I'm not abiding by legal requirements in the mod; what you and Dev-HC claim is total bullshit.

WRONG. you're absolutely dumbfounded as to how legal systems work, even how a humane legal system should work for the benefit of humanity, with respect to copyright of artistic property.

you are an english teacher

lol, one could tell that he is not a legal teacher. if he actually were, then that would have been worthy of the declaration of an OFFICIAL(TM) facepalm day.

[SamOz]

I don't quote your bullshit, Dev-HC, not because I need to back what I say with quotes but because there's;  1) no need as anyone can read this thread and see your lies all over the place, 2) you're spouting bullshit repeatedly that doesn't deserve repetition. You've played word games, twisted and redefined what others have said, tried to portray others as saying things which they definitely did NOT say, and made unfounded claims about attribution; you know very well - unless you've managed to delude yourself into thinking that LIES change reality - that I have never claimed to have every asset in the mod, and have very specifically stated that I didn't create everything in the mod. You're lying troll, and nothing more, because you can't stick with the facts. Apparently, you neither want to accept facts as they are, nor are capable of living in a fact-based world. You've demonstrated a crippling incapacity for honesty, which must prove to be a severe handicap in your relations with other people in real life society. I can only assume from your behaviour on this thread that you lie so much that you thoroughly convince yourself into believing your own lies.

The entire argument about the USA's legal system is actually irrelevant because you began with the premise that I'd claimed credit for assets in the mod that I hadn't actually claimed credit for; you'd just lied and pretended that I'd claimed credit for "almost" everything - which I very specifically in the first post had not done. I have never claimed to have made every asset in the mod, nor have claimed credit for things which I did not make, and you know it, others reading this thread know it, yet you continue to repeat the same lies about attribution. You're beginning to bore me, because you're a boring troll; a mere broken record going round and round repetitively making the same bullshit claims that never were true in the first place. You're engaged in nothing more than personal harassment, without a shred of credibility in any of the claims that you've made about me or anyone else.

[/dev/humancontroller]

I don't quote your bullshit, Dev-HC, not because I need to back what I say with quotes but because there's;  1) no need as anyone can read this thread and see your lies all over the place, 2) you're spouting bullshit repeatedly that doesn't deserve repetition.

WRONG. you don't quote me, because you cannot quote me without revealing, to others, that your thought process is fucking WRONG. i dare you. you will either

• ignore this and not quote me, because this way, you give others the non-benefit of the doubt ("hey maybe /dev/humancontroller did lie somewhere, i just can't seem to find it");
• quote me out-of-context, for example, to make it seem like i said "samoz said that he owns almost all of the contents"; or
• give your best shot at quoting in good faith, and force a wave of facepalming as you reveal your weak pillars of (non-)arguments.

You've played word games

WRONG, i have not played any word games (as an exceptional case, this explanation is given for the above, ultimately retarded statement (usually the explanation is evident)).

redefined what others have said, tried to portray others as saying things which they definitely did NOT say

WRONG. i have pointed out and explained the most reasonable, humane and widespread interpretation of what you imply (not necessarily via words).

made unfounded claims about attribution

WRONG. my claims about attribution have the most argumental support, and the arguments are not just "out there", but are written here.

you know very well [...] that I have never claimed to have every asset in the mod

yes. yet you practically implied, in the eyes of the average person, that you owned copyright to the large majority of the assets. this is what the debate is about -- i'm saying that for the Nth time already.

You're lying troll, and nothing more

WRONG.

you can't stick with the facts.

WRONG.

Apparently, you neither want to accept facts as they are, nor are capable of living in a fact-based world.

WRONG. in fact, that statement is most true for you (without the "apparently" part; rather, with "obviously").

You've demonstrated a crippling incapacity for honesty

WRONG. in fact, that statement is most true for you. you attempted to induce, in others, a hightened opinion of you, which you do not deserve.

you'd just lied and pretended that I'd claimed credit for "almost" everything - which I very specifically in the first post had not done.

WRONG. i correctly stated and argued, with proper reasons, that you practically implied a claim, that you are to be credited for the large majority of the contents in the package. you tried to cover up the situation slightly by amending the first post after i saw through your unethical acts and pointed them out.

I have never claimed to have made every asset in the mod

did i mention that i've never said that you did claim to have made every asset?

nor have claimed credit for things which I did not make

have implied.

others reading this thread know it

likely: WRONG, others are "tl;dr"ing due to your mass-repetition of bullshit, lies, etc., or are struggling to understand who the "winner" is, while neither side plans to submit in the near future.

lies

arguments.

by the way: implying is claiming, under all jurisdictions with a reasonable law system.

you're a deluded little moron, a fuckface, a wannabe; you're shitting lies and are trying to protect your (below-zero) reputation, which you do not deserve.

[SamOz]

Wow, these trolls go through a massive amounts of straw in their arguments!

Unsatisfied that I haven't claimed credit for making all assets in the mod and unhappy that the mod has attributions aplenty, far more attributions than probably every other mod of similar kind that's posted in this forum, the two trolls have to desperately create a strawman out of total fiction. Unable to point to me claiming credit for making all assets, Troll No.1 (Dev-HC) has resorted to pretending there's a mythical (although in truth totally NON-EXISTENT) "implication" that I was claiming credit (OMG! The IDIOT has to make shit up out of NOTHING because he's so INSANE!). An "implication" totally shredded because it never existed in the first place, was in truth specifically refuted in the mod and by me on this thread over a dozen times already, and only ever existed in the hallucinogenic emptiness of Troll No.1's mind.

Sorry, Troll No.1, but you appear to have Lost The Plot.

Also, there's absolutely no necessity in quoting you, Dev-HC, because I'm usually posting immediately after your post. Everyone can see who is replying to who and follow the conversation. Perhaps, you only want others to quote you as you're quite vain and need to glorify yourself.

[kharnov]

To be honest, I wouldn't want to claim credit over something that looked like that, either.

[SamOz]

To be honest, I wouldn't want to claim credit over something that looked like that, either.

Some people will like it. Some people won't. I didn't make the mod to please everyone, and as stated at the start it's impossible to please everyone regardless. My son loves the mod. He doesn't play Tremulous very often these days, but in his opinion, the vanilla standard Tremulous looks dull and uninteresting. He loved the KoRx mod's appearance but he wanted an Asian-influenced style that was rougher, grittier, and a mix of modern and traditional. So, there's dirt and grime, splatters of blood, oil leaking, old stains, mud on the boots, bullet marks, scratches, rust, and a run-down "used-future" look mixed with the glowy neon-like lighting and sparkly bits. I know that there a few players out there using this mod, because I've encountered them in games during the past couple of days.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Unable to point to me claiming credit for making all assets

WRONG. the person "unable to point" -- despite all requests to do so -- is you. you're attempting to induce confusion in the casual reader regarding who has the burden of pointing something out (the casual reader may only remember that "there was a post where someone was dared to point something out, and reading this post, it probaly was /dev/humancontroller", which is WRONG).

Troll No.1 (Dev-HC) has resorted to pretending there's a mythical (although in truth totally NON-EXISTENT) "implication" that I was claiming credit (OMG! The IDIOT has to make shit up out of NOTHING because he's so INSANE!). An "implication" totally shredded because it never existed in the first place, was in truth specifically refuted in the mod and by me on this thread over a dozen times already, and only ever existed in the hallucinogenic emptiness of Troll No.1's mind.

congratulations, you have successfully proven that you previously have been dumbfounded as to what my argument is. the proof is that you now see a different explanation of my argument as a "new resort" or completely new argument. and even now, you still don't understand why it works, in fact, your disbelief in the argument centers around the WRONG proposition -- likely with just pretensions -- that law works in the way you imagine.

you appear to have Lost The Plot.

WRONG. the number of my arguments continues to increase. the number of your unshattered arguments was lowered to 0.

Also, there's absolutely no necessity in quoting you, Dev-HC, because I'm usually posting immediately after your post.

WRONG. you, in recent posts, are claiming something that i said near the first posts. it is there where you still have the burden of quoting from.

i will re-notify you of the following key statement that you've been silent about:

make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

[SamOz]

It's becoming increasingly difficult to take any of your bullcrap seriously, Dev-HC. You seem obsessed with me, what is it? Love? And all that sexual language!

Apart from that, you're continuing to recycle the same old, same old. The same old lies about attribution, the same old lies and tall stories alleging an intent that you can't back with even the tiniest iota of evidence because all of those things you accuse me of are just total fiction, made up in your head. None of your crap, none of lies about me, have any basis in reality. You've abundantly proven only one thing; that you're so crippled in your divorcement from reality that you mistake your own BULLSHIT for the real world.

How can anyone take you seriously when everything you've said so far in this thread has come across as the delusional rantings of a lunatic who believes his own lies change reality?

[/dev/humancontroller]

anytime you want to even try to say something that supports your view...

i'll keep re-notifying you:

make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

[SamOz]

Dev-HC, you're so full of crap it's amazing that you can comprehend how to go to the toilet without a map and an instructional video to watch.

You've tried to make up bullshit about 'implication' of attribution that was never there, tried to claim that I was claiming credit for all of the assets when I very definitely wasn't, and you've outright barefaced LIED and tried to claim that I was. You're not just a troll, you're a delusional loony without any grip on reality at all. Thanks for bumping the thread and helping it stay right up there, and by the way, you're incredibly easy to manipulate  

[/dev/humancontroller]

you have yet to

make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

[SamOz]

/dev/humancontroller, you need to admit that you've been lying throughout this thread.

You've tried desperately, and with boring repetition, to accuse me (without any evidence from you except 'implications' pulled out of your arse) of claiming credit for the creation of every asset in the mod. You just make SHIT up.  

You grasp at straws trying to give your fictions the facade of seeming to be 'true' yet know that you're only engaged in a long tirade of obsessive personal harassment where you'd try any lie of convenience to continue that harassment. I have never claimed credit for any part of the mod's assets that I didn't create, and have provided plentiful attributions for those who did create those other parts. Yet, you would lie and bullshit otherwise.

I want a clear, unambiguous statement, on video from you, admitting this fact. Because you've been lying repeatedly about me throughout this entire thread.

Oh, and thanks again for bumping the thread. 

[/dev/humancontroller]

c'mon, little loser, stop stalling and

make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

[SamOz]

Dev-HC, the only one stalling here is you. Admit the lying, because that's what you've been doing throughout the entire thread.

I see no reason to jump like a puppet on someone else's strings just because you say so. You need to be truthful, stop bullshitting and lying about others all the time. You falsely claimed that I wasn't giving attribution to others, when in truth, I had already done so. You falsely claimed that I was taking credit for 100% of all asset creation in the mod, when I had NEVER done any such thing and was VERY CLEAR in saying so. You keep lying all the time so why should anyone in their right mind care a damn about your personal opinion when all you do is LIE all the time? Hmmm?

Claiming victories that you haven't yet enjoyed is typically childish of you. When you come out and admit your blatant dishonesty throughout this entire thread, you'll be doing yourself a big favour. But you're too much of a gutless coward to admit how you lied all the time.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Dev-HC, the only one stalling here is you.

WRONG.

Admit the lying, because that's what you've been doing throughout the entire thread.

WRONG. that's what you have been doing.

I see no reason to jump like a puppet on someone else's strings just because you say so.

it only takes a short line of text to type. you're just scared.

You falsely claimed that I wasn't giving attribution to others

WRONG. the claim was a pretty factual one: that you weren't giving the due attribution.

I had already done so.

WRONG.

You [...] claimed that I was taking credit for 100% of all asset creation in the mod

WRONG. you're lying yet again.

Claiming victories that you haven't yet enjoyed is typically childish

then do not attempt.

and to not forget the most currently-important thing:

make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

[CreatureofHell]

I get the feeling good old /dev/hc wants you to make a clear, unambiguous, boilerplate-free statement about what you claim (with respect to ownership and copyright) about the new battlesuit texture.

[SamOz]

No, what Dev-HC wants is for others to jump to his tune while he continues the same campaign of lies about what I've claimed credit for, he knows full well that I've given attribution as required and kept within the rules of copyright. I have never claimed credit for anything that I didn't do, and have given attributions aplenty - far more than I've seen in any other mod on this forum. He's a troll and nothing more, grasping at straws, or just making shit up when that doesn't work, anything to provide a thin veneer of an excuse for continued personal harassment.

When he says 'wrong' without any explanation at all as to why something is 'wrong' it's just more of the same crap that he's been shovelling throughout the thread. He's just lying all the time, and can't cite any solid evidence anywhere that I've claimed credit for 100% of the assets in the mod (previously it was "almost all" but he keeps changing his story - hard to avoid when nothing that he's claiming is based on anything real anyway) going on about 'implications' that he's simply pulled out of his arse. He's full of shit and knows it. So he's tried to bullshit and play word games at 'redefining' and made up fictions about 'implications' that have no basis in reality. He's just an ordinary troll, obsessed with personal harassment, like those common on many forums.

Other than that, Dev-HC has done a wonderful job of bumping this thread.  

[/dev/humancontroller]

still reluctant to make the statement? i shall give you a few examples. choose one which most fits your belief.^{1 2 3}

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) practically without any reference or base, on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, a tool aspired to support the creation of license-unencumbered content. thus, i fully own the copyright to the image, and have the legal power to permit/restrict any use of the texture (but subject to local laws).

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) using the following procedure: (1) i started out with a pre-existing CC-licensed image (of another author), (2) applied an orange color filter to the image, and (3) applied some brushing over the resulting image; i did all of this on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, but based my work on CC-licensed content, with significant amount borrowed, and on a side-note, the modified nature of my work is highly reflected in the image. thus, under the terms of the CC, i have to release the modified image under the CC license too, and give proper attribution to the original author (alongside me, credits fairly shared), at least by including a written notice of "(c) <insert_the_name_of_the_original_author_here>; this image is released under the CC-BY-SA license, version 2.5", and preferrably including the full license text.

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) using the following procedure: (1) i started out with a pre-existing CC-licensed image (of another author), (2) applied an orange color filter to the image, and (3) applied some brushing over the resulting image; i did all of this on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, but based my work on CC-licensed content, with significant amount borrowed, and on a side-note, the modified nature of my work is highly reflected in the image. however, i am a motherfucker, and i believe that, since i've spent a considerable amount of time working on the image, i now own the copyright to the modified image, and thus, have the legal power to permit/restrict any use of the image (but subject to local laws).

¹ "~samoz", pronounced "approximately-samoz", is a fictional character.
² imagine a counter-productive, cultish modification of the exact text, where "i" and sentence-initials are capitalized, commas, hyphens and dashes are underused, and ending quotation marks are unconditionally placed after the neighboring fullstop.
³ weigh minor details less; for example, the exact operating system in use is a minor detail.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

I have never claimed that every asset in the mod was mine.

It took bloody ages to make those textures and sounds which I created, and I gave attribution already for the source of those which I did not do, they're neither 'cheap' or simply ripped off. I put hundreds of hours of work into this, but you'll have to take it or leave it for the present. I modified content certainly, that's why it's called a Mod. Every mod on this site has built upon the work of other mods before it. However, the majority of what's in this mod is the result of my hard work, not others. That's nearly every Alien sound, Human sound, all of their skins, many of the other rougher-looking textures used in the maps, and a helluva a lot of finicky re-writing of scripts to get the 'look' that I and my son desired. Attributions are written everywhere in the scripts as required by common decency. The metadata contains the name and source of the sounds. You can use the Alien sounds and Human sounds elsewhere, for other mods if you like. All of those which were made under the name OnlyTheGhosts, are mine. I made those. I give permission to use them in Unvanquished, or anywhere else, whatever. Doesn't bother me, as long as you give attribution.

There's no more copyright text in this mod than there is in most of the mods on this site, so it's not exceptional there. There are copyright texts are in the game-playing changing version of the mod, not in this non-game play changing version. Since I'm not likely to work on this mod any further for awhile, you'll have to accept this version as is. If I find the time available, MAYBE then I will include that. IF people are actually interested in using the mod.

[SamOz]

I see that now to continue the harassment you've chosen to reinterpret what I've already stated and try to turn it into something damning and far away from what was actually stated & meant. I've never claimed to have created anything made by another, so you're both full of bullshit. To actual size, the MImod texture for the Human Battlesuit is on the left. It's higher definition, and has been redone completely. The old Tremulous standard Human Battlesuit texture is on the right. The model they're fitted for is the same and unchanged, so the critical design features' shapes couldn't be changed.



Dev-HC, you've yet to admit you're lying, and I doubt that you ever will. After all, you're just a troll. I have no doubt that you'll both try to twist anything that I say into something else, or otherwise make-up bullshit pretzel-like reinterpretations to suit yourselves.

But thanks for bumping the thread. 

[/dev/humancontroller]

I see that now to continue the harassment you've chosen to reinterpret what I've already stated and try to turn it into something damning and far away from what was actually stated & meant.

no, you can't read. you probably got kicked out from your english teacher job.

To actual size, the MImod texture for the Human Battlesuit is on the left. It's higher definition, and has been redone completely.

and is severely based on the original one. intentionally understating or excluding significant facts is lying. a monkey is able to perform such a transformation using GIMP. i'll include "scale" and "increase sharpness" operations in "~samoz's" description of things that he did to transform the original image to the new one. "~samoz's" first statement is removed, because it is too obviously false.

The model they're fitted for is the same and unchanged, so the critical design features' shapes couldn't be changed.

of course. insignificant.

which of the following statements reflect your case most? the remaining options are the following.

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) using the following procedure: (1) i started out with a pre-existing CC-licensed image (of another author), (2) applied scaling and an orange color filter to the image, and (3) applied some brushing over (coloring and edging) the resulting image; i did all of this on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, but based my work on CC-licensed content, with significant amount borrowed, and on a side-note, the modified nature of my work is highly reflected in the image. thus, under the terms of the CC, i have to release the modified image under the CC license too, and give proper attribution to the original author (alongside me, credits fairly shared), at least by including a written notice of "(c) <insert_the_name_of_the_original_author_here>; this image is released under the CC-BY-SA license, version 2.5", and preferrably including the full license text.

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) using the following procedure: (1) i started out with a pre-existing CC-licensed image (of another author), (2) applied scaling and an orange color filter to the image, and (3) applied some brushing over (coloring and edging) the resulting image; i did all of this on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, but based my work on CC-licensed content, with significant amount borrowed, and on a side-note, the modified nature of my work is highly reflected in the image. however, i am a motherfucker, and i believe that, since i've spent a considerable amount of time working on the image, i now own the copyright to the modified image, and thus, have the legal power to permit/restrict any use of the image (but subject to local laws).

[kharnov]

I fail to see how that texture is high-definition or "redone completely" as you claim. All it seems to me is that you've just taken the same texture, doubled the resolution, and haphazardly overlaid an orange camo texture. Redoing something completely would involve starting from scratch.

[ULTRA Random ViruS]

I'm actually interested in the sounds part of it though.
SamOz, mind splitting the mod into parts like how KoR has done to their mod?
(i.e. one pk3 for sounds, one for map textures, one for model textures, one for gfx + particle systems etc.)

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

you know what?  i decided to actually really look at the screenshots today.  fist off, i see there can be no question as to assets being plainly from stock, thus covered by CC.  second, what kind of crack are they serving you in nipponland samoz?  are you colorblind, by chance?  do you use the "high contrast mode" accessibility option in your operating system?  i really just want to know what you were thinking when you decided to go with changing everything you touch into a garish neon rendition of bloody vomit?

and the worst part about it is that you feel it is good enough to publicly share.

if you are for serious about this mod, i suggest you learn just a little bit about color theory.  you'll also want to learn enough about using your image editor (and also how the skins are draped onto the models) so as to use shading filters.  as they are now, they accentuate how "flat" and terrible your color choices are.  the helmet is especially atrocious.

[SamOz]

Read the first post, RAK. I never said anywhere that the mod was 'finished'. Your personal opinion as to whether or not anything is good enough to release publicly is irrelevant. Unvanquished looked like absolute crap when it was first released, so did Tremulous, hell, so does every Quake-derived mod that I've ever seen in their first release. This isn't claimed to be a finished product from some million-dollar commercial project, and nobody is preventing you from changing whatever you like in the mod. Nor have I have ever claimed exclusive credit anywhere in the mod for the creation of any of the textures. As par for the course, from the very start it was going to obvious that RAKninja-Decepticon and /dev/humancontroller (who I call Dev-HC as a personal joke that I doubt he gets) would behave like typical trolls and engage in deceitful word-games, attempts at redefining what someone else has said to something else instead, and other bullshit for the goal of personal harassment. I never expected anything else from you. You'd insult whatever anyone else does regardless, and bring shiploads of chips-on-the-shoulder with it.

Kharnov, the textures that I replaced are all high definition which becomes clear enough when you see the mod in action, as in a game. They result in some changeable colour appearance in game too; so the dragoons for example can look pink and at other times purple or blue.

I agree the helmet still needs work, but the original is crap too. IMHO, the whole 'hair' sticking out the top bit always turned me off because it looked stupid.

The garish neon look is intentional. It's supposed to be fun, Asian-influenced, so that's a salute to the Japanese LOVE of lights on every building, those trucks with all the lights, and similar madness. As to 'colour theory', I studied it, but European and Asian ideas about colours are very different. It may be hard for many people to understand, but colour theory is influenced strongly by cultural beliefs and linguistics oriented at it's heart. The mod isn't supposed to look like it was made in your country, it's supposed to be foreign and weird and exotic. Everything is also intentionally beat-up, battered, and dirty in appearance. The whole Mirai Ikusa theme is like that; no shiny Star Trek future of plastic newness and smoothness, but really knocked-about, bloody, burnt, shot, and scratched by years of warfare.

ULTRA Random ViruS, I'll probably eventually get around to splitting up the parts like you say. It's all in one lump because it was easier for me to shift copies from one computer in my household to another that way. Most of the other mods on this forum are one big lump too.

Anyway, for everyone's information, I'll be significantly slower on the reply-to-post rate from this week for the next month or so (at least). As I stated earlier in the thread last week, I only had a few days free, and was going to be very busy from this week onward.

Thanks for the interest and bumping the thread up there. I actually hadn't expected much of any posts on the thread because the Tremulous board is so dead most of the time.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Nor have I have ever claimed exclusive credit anywhere in the mod for the creation of any of the textures.

you're lying, you little loser.

the majority of what's in this mod is the result of my hard work, not others. That's nearly every Alien sound, Human sound, all of their skins, many of the other rougher-looking textures used in the maps, and

also, which of the following statements reflect your case most? the remaining options are the following.

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) using the following procedure: (1) i started out with a pre-existing CC-licensed image (of another author), (2) applied scaling and an orange color filter to the image, and (3) applied some brushing over (coloring and edging) the resulting image; i did all of this on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, but based my work on CC-licensed content, with significant amount borrowed, and on a side-note, the modified nature of my work is highly reflected in the image. thus, under the terms of the CC, i have to release the modified image under the CC license too, and give proper attribution to the original author (alongside me, credits fairly shared), at least by including a written notice of "(c) <insert_the_name_of_the_original_author_here>; this image is released under the CC-BY-SA license, version 2.5", and preferrably including the full license text.

i created the battlesuit texture image (the one i packaged) using the following procedure: (1) i started out with a pre-existing CC-licensed image (of another author), (2) applied scaling and an orange color filter to the image, and (3) applied some brushing over (coloring and edging) the resulting image; i did all of this on a computer running a GNU/Linux operating system, with GIMP, but based my work on CC-licensed content, with significant amount borrowed, and on a side-note, the modified nature of my work is highly reflected in the image. however, i am a motherfucker, and i believe that, since i've spent a considerable amount of time working on the image, i now own the copyright to the modified image, and thus, have the legal power to permit/restrict any use of the image (but subject to local laws).

these apply to all skin textures, not just the battlesuit.

btw:

my son

ie., volt?

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

read what we are actually typing to you samoz.  according to your actions, and both american (original license) and international copyright law agrees that when you publish something, you claim it as your own original work, except where you give proper attribution.  what attribution you released under was not proper or sufficient.  furthermore, as i have kept quoting back to you, you have indeed claimed undue credit and ownership of the assets in question.  what you have done is intentionally misled the end user, or in other words, you have lied.

do not defend yourself from constructive criticism.  that just makes you look like a petulant shit.  your entire defense is irrelevant.  first, if it were a finished product, why would i be giving you suggestions for improvement?  other projects are not applicable, we are not discussing them.  that your mod does not have a multi-million dollar budget has no bearing....  do you really want your name connected with a bunch of trash that appears to not have any effort at all put into it?  that i can mod your mod is irrelevant.  if i wanted to visually mod stock tremulous, i would have done so or would still be doing so.

as to the helmet, i was comparing yours to stock.  if the stock helmet looks like shit, yours looks like something worse than shit.

oh, and speaking of lying, as you seem to love to do.  i doubt you'd guess i'd come haunt your topic with disparaging comments, we parted on fairly good terms as i recall.

edit:  re:bumps - aside from one topic getting sporadic posts (due to mg resources shutting down), the next most recent topic was last posted in in october.  the next most recent topic was active in march.