No words, just...

[DASPRiD]

... a picture, used Phong Shadding, DotProduct2 and Alpha Fade Blending:



PS: Just the screenshot is so dark, the endresult is brighter...

-edit-
Just a second picture, to visualasize the size:

[DarkRogue]

yeah used a bit of phong shading in my gloom_b2 map, really smoothes out the blockiness of the walls don't it?

[DASPRiD]

Not only the walls

[DarkRogue]

oh? the floor is also phong shaded brushes? or is it a patch mesh (which rounds itself off withour phong usage)?

[Ksempac]

Very nice. But i wonder how bright is the end result because i do like the brightness of the screenshots. Neither too dark nor too bright

[DASPRiD]

oh? the floor is also phong shaded brushes? or is it a patch mesh (which rounds itself off withour phong usage)?

Nono, the floor is also phong shadded, with DotProduct2 and Alpha Fade Blending as is said

[Lava Croft]

I still see a blocky hallway, actually.

[DASPRiD]

Indeed, phong shadding actually only makes the shadows as they were on a curve, but the profile of a brush still IS a brush.

[Lava Croft]

So, if I get this right, it is a feature that you can only spot when looking closely, much like the obsolete normal mapping. I would like to see sshots that show the differences between phong-shaded and non-phong-shaded.
Would you be so kind?

[DASPRiD]

Everything is still there, look at Simland:

http://simland.planetquake.gamespy.com/pages/articles/phongshading1.htm

[DASPRiD]

And just another screenshot, have phun

[Smokey]

i like the idea of an outdoors map, good work.

[Paradox]

Beautiful. Could this be the grassroots of the first all outdoor map?

[holyknight]

:eek:  wow, very nice! Looks so real!

[DASPRiD]

Thx for your comments so far, I see you like it.
You will get a lot of nice stuff in the map, just wait for more screenshots .
The biggest problem i have at the moment ist, how I will handle with jetpackers, flying at top of the canyon. Don't have a solution for them now, but I'll stick on it

[vcxzet]

stop posting gamma 1.0 sshots
yesterday, when tremulous crashed and left me with a gamma of 1.7
they looked good but today they are dark again

so what about setting gamma before posting it (Gimp-Layer-Colors-Levels-middle slider)

[Stof]

That last screen reminds me somawhat of some UT2kX maps

[vcxzet]

[Ksempac]

I sure hope the map looks more like DASPRID's screenshot than vcxzet's screenshot.

I really like DASPRID's brightness.

[DASPRiD]

Gamma 1.0 is the only real good look.
By the way, I always compile the map with -gamma 2 and -compensate 4

[vcxzet]

Gamma 1.0 is the only real good look.
By the way, I always compile the map with -gamma 2 and -compensate 4

I am not talking about your maps compilation parameters
just the gamma of your screenshots

[DASPRiD]

I never play with gamma over 1.0, so why should I make screenshots with those ugly settings?

If you want to know, how ugly you can make the map with your settings, open the screenshots in an image viewer and set up the gamma.

Edit
By the way, the map has a name now: Ancient Remains

[ShAdoW]

And just another screenshot, have phun

wow,dude,that's awesome :eek: (more,heheh)

[Taiyo.uk]

And just another screenshot, have phun

/me has wet his pants


...and I prefer dasprid's gamma in those shots, is vcxzet's monitor broken?

[DarkRogue]

nah, some people just can't grasp the concept of non full bright maps that belong more to deathmatch than games like trem

[DASPRiD]

nah, some people just can't grasp the concept of non full bright maps that belong more to deathmatch than games like trem

Well you will get a special version of the map: all textures exchanged with a pure white texture.

[vcxzet]

I CANT SEE ANYTHING FROM YOUR SCREENSHOTS
DOT

[DarkRogue]

that's your vid card/monitor issue then.

[vcxzet]

that's your vid card/monitor issue then.

nope

[Survivor]

Mappers make maps based on gamma 1.0, live with it. Same way q3mappers don't make maps for picmic 5 but for picmic 1.