kingo64, why necro the topic to say that?
My point about the subject:
Quake maps and models are made to look like the reality and that cartoon style is a little ugly and not nice to play many times.
Warsow is an example.
If Quake based games were made to look like cartoon, new Quake releases would not try to be even more realistic and mappers wouldn't need to make perfect-looking maps. It throws in the trash the efforts to make more realistic textures/shaders/models and map designs.
About Warsow, it seems they are working much more than our devs, they have many nice features and it is getting even more stable/fast every release (they release new versions very often, I noted). Furthermore, considering they created an almost new engine based on Quake2, they did a very good job: it includes a great amount of features we can find in Q3-based games like Trem (I think they don't have the fantastic tjw's admin system though). Their problem is the cartoon-style and the fact they don't have a battle between humans and aliens
