NATURAL SELECTION PLAYERS NEED HELP

[Survivor]

Derelict is a good enough server for teaching the ns players. No newbies bother to download those maps and generally anyone who joins derelict has enough common sense to help people, except for thorn it seems.

And neo

[Neo]

Actually the point is that only a few people play on derelict these days and when we do we just mess around most of the time. Unlike most others where its 'win at all costs'

[Survivor]

Meh, we need angel.

[jal]

Where in my post do you read anything about 'anti-Trem'?

This comment made me think it was some flamewar case:

After reading this it seems that all the retarded folk in Tremulous must be Natural Selection players

[SLAVE|Mietz]

Where in my post do you read anything about 'anti-Trem'?

This comment made me think it was some flamewar case:

After reading this it seems that all the retarded folk in Tremulous must be Natural Selection players

do not think, it makes your head hurt badly

[n00b pl0x]

my keyboard doesnt have a think button

[Bajsefar]

Lava and others are makin us look like arses, hoooray!

I posted on the ns forums to try and change their opinions.

[SLAVE|Mietz]

because we are from #satgnu and we prefer pros

[Bajsefar]

If you prefer pros, go to alien's wrath, if you wanna punt noobs, go to satgnu.

[SLAVE|Mietz]

If you prefer pros, go to alien's wrath, if you wanna punt noobs, go to satgnu.

if you want a broken nose, come to lavas door

[Neo]

I think Bajsefar is confused, it happens to the new people

[Spinviper]

Hello Kuszja/holyknight234/Sots! I'm Spinviper from the NS Forums.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to show you the ropes of Natural Selection. I primarily use Xfire for gaming, so you can add "spinviper" to your Xfire buddy list. Do not hesitate to bring any of your other Tremulous buddies along.

Do note that in NS, there are two gamemodes . Combat or CO_ which is made for short, intense games that do not have any RTS elements in them at all and NS Classic or NS_ which is what Natural Selection is all about - the fusion of FPS and RTS.

Good luck and I do hope you enjoy Natural-Selection.

Edit: I just installed Tremulous, going to give it a shot.

[SilverWolf]

eh...
Why should i play natural selection when i like Tremulous?

And remember Spinviper, here on Tremulous we are very mean to noobs
so try not to do anything involving a gun!

[Kuszja]

Thank you, I tried NS earlier alone to get movement and stuff down but NS requires two people to do anything. I will go there next time I get the chance since I do not always have high speed internet access. My name there is [MaGC] Sidein.

[[A]]

I'm playing trem since october and I was natural selection's player for 3 years, i could say that you cant imagine how many kind of strategy and different gamestyle this game allows.

For me ns is really better than trem.

So why do i m playing trem now ?

Simple, the dev team is dead since half 2005 and continually saying "wait & see, update coming soon, official forum up again soon, ect ..." A lot of words and nothing more. The netcode was horrible and a lot of player have "no hitbox". The french community where i was acting was dying.

In a lot or few words, this mod is dead.

Now, a large part of the players was playing as "pro" way, alwais trying to know something more that can be usefull, they all know exactly life, dammage, armor effect of all in this game. The normal reflex for that kind of players is to wanna know dirrectly "what does what" to increase them way of playing in few time.

Now i can understand why you dont wanna answer in game and there is some forum where is easy to found what you want. But what i cant understand is instead answering "RTFM" why dont you answer "go and seek on tremulous.net".


Sry for my bad english.

[techhead]

Your english was fine, if you want a in-depth guide to exactly what does what, check out the two Tremulous wiki's. If you want even more in-depth, look in tremulous.h in koders. For an insane amount of in-depth information, look through the game files.

[holyknight]

Hello Kuszja/holyknight234/Sots! I'm Spinviper from the NS Forums.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to show you the ropes of Natural Selection. I primarily use Xfire for gaming, so you can add "spinviper" to your Xfire buddy list. Do not hesitate to bring any of your other Tremulous buddies along.

Do note that in NS, there are two gamemodes . Combat or CO_ which is made for short, intense games that do not have any RTS elements in them at all and NS Classic or NS_ which is what Natural Selection is all about - the fusion of FPS and RTS.

Good luck and I do hope you enjoy Natural-Selection.

Edit: I just installed Tremulous, going to give it a shot.

well, I cant because
1. I have no Xfire
2. I have no Half-Life or CS (getting CS:S, will that do any good?)
and 3. my computer is very sucky, if I download any other game, either the comp will get messed up or my brother will kill me.

[Spinviper]

Hello Kuszja/holyknight234/Sots! I'm Spinviper from the NS Forums.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to show you the ropes of Natural Selection. I primarily use Xfire for gaming, so you can add "spinviper" to your Xfire buddy list. Do not hesitate to bring any of your other Tremulous buddies along.

Do note that in NS, there are two gamemodes . Combat or CO_ which is made for short, intense games that do not have any RTS elements in them at all and NS Classic or NS_ which is what Natural Selection is all about - the fusion of FPS and RTS.

Good luck and I do hope you enjoy Natural-Selection.

Edit: I just installed Tremulous, going to give it a shot.

well, I cant because
1. I have no Xfire
2. I have no Half-Life or CS (getting CS:S, will that do any good?)
and 3. my computer is very sucky, if I download any other game, either the comp will get messed up or my brother will kill me.

Nah, CS:S won't do you any good as it uses the new Source engine. Natural Selection is a mod for the original Half-Life. To be honest, I'm suprised that so many people don't have a copy of HL. I was under the impression that everyone and their grandmother had a copy  

With regards to your intention purchasing CS:S I suggest that you pick up one of those Half-Life 2 "packs" via steam or a retail copy of Half-Life 2 Platinum Edition as it includes HL2 as well as CS:S in it. You'll then be able to install a plethora of mods that are to be/have been already released.

Currently, the NS playerbase is far from its peak. The majority of NS_ classic servers are largely empty. The only servers remaining that are regularly filled are crappy heavily modded Combat (CO_) servers that are usually filled with idiots. I'll probably be free over the weekends, so once again just drop me a line when you want a game. I might be able to dredge up a few old regulars on IRC for a proper game.

[Lava Croft]

Another problem with NS is the fact that I bought Half-Life in 1999. The game ran fine on the computer I had at that time, a Pentium 200MHz with a 3DFX Voodoo1 card.

Now, in 2006, I install Half-Life via their new superdeluxe Steam service, only to find out the game I bought in 1999 runs like crap on a PII 400MHz, and I have yet to see any improvements to HL1 that justify the retarded performance decrease.
So even if I comply with Valve and want to use Steam, I cannot play the games I bought from them in just 6 years ago.
That justifies a serious birdflippin' to Valve. And a serious raised eyebrow to anyone who tries to tell me something positive about Valve and it's Half-Life.

And now, well, I don't think that NS and Tremulous are even competitors to the same crown, since Tremulous is free, open-source and therefore happily supports freedom, while we all know that HL1-NS is a modification, and that HL2-NS will be a modification without HL2 that will actually cost you real money.

So, comparing Tremulous to Natural Selection would be like, what, comparing Linux to Windows?

[Kuszja]

Spinviper, I got ns up and running I may be able to play over the weekend but when I tried at home I randomly lagged for ten seconds every couple of minutes. Though I what I got to play here wasn't too bad, just the humans are slow.

Lava Croft, that is a bad comparison since there are some linus distros that cost money. Or wait, it could be an ok comparison since Tremulous did cost something when it was still quake 3 dependant. Hmmmm...

[holyknight]

I don't want any Half-Life. I don't really like them anyways. All I want is Counter Strike.
Also, try and ask for standalone for NS... it's very annoying to have to buy things for games that aren't even as great as the ones you actually buy

[techhead]

Quake 3 was free, and is free.
I could download a copy of Quake 3 Arena right now if I wanted one.

[Vector_Matt]

Quake 3 was free, and is free.
I could download a copy of Quake 3 Arena right now if I wanted one.

Wrong, you could legally download the source code if you wanted to, Or the demo.

[Kaleo]

HAHA.

A few reasons why Trem is better than NS:

Trem is free. NO STEAM!!!
Trem is avaliable on Windows, Lnux and Mac
Trem uses the Q3 engine
I play trem
HalfLife mapping is a pain in the ass
HalfLife modding is a pain in the ass
HalfLife is a pain in the ass (somtimes)

And thus concludes my reasons

[Thorn]

Half-life mapping is a pain in the ass

Hammer is a great editor...

[Paradox]

Best editor is Gurilla or Sapian, the 2 for Halo.

[Spinviper]

Quake 3 was free, and is free.
I could download a copy of Quake 3 Arena right now if I wanted one.

Unfortunately, that is not correct. When it was originally released, you had to pay for Quake 3. It was made Open-Source on Friday, August 19, 2005. You are only legally able to download the source code.

HL2-NS will be a modification without HL2 that will actually cost you real money.

Actually, NS2 will not be a mod. I think they've licensed the Source engine and thus Natural-Selection 2 will be a standalone commercial game.

HAHA.

A few reasons why Trem is better than NS:

     Trem is free. NO STEAM!!!
     Trem is avaliable on Windows, Lnux and Mac
     Trem uses the Q3 engine
     I play trem
     HalfLife mapping is a pain in the ass
     HalfLife modding is a pain in the ass
     HalfLife is a pain in the ass (somtimes)

Well , NS and Trem are very different games. I doubt either game could be proclaimed "better" than the other as "better" is subjective term. To each his own, lad.

Spinviper, I got ns up and running I may be able to play over the weekend but when I tried at home I randomly lagged for ten seconds every couple of minutes. Though I what I got to play here wasn't too bad, just the humans are slow.  

Odd, do you get any sort of error? And just to clarify, are you running  3.2 Beta or 3.1 Final? Also, there does not seem to be a Xfire user named "[MaGC] Sidein" or Kuszja.

From what I've seen of Tremulous so far from the couple of games I've played, it seems very fast paced and vastly different from NS. Its great for a "quick-fix" to jump straight into the action.

Have a good weekend guys!

[Bajsefar]

Yeah, trem is fast paced, but also quite strategical, you can ask me, as a chicken clanner, strategic retreats takes strategy. O.o

Yeah, good weekend to you too.

[Lava Croft]

Actually, NS2 will not be a mod. I think they've licensed the Source engine and thus Natural-Selection 2 will be a standalone commercial game.

Exactly like I said, its a Half-Life 2 mod without Half-Life 2. Just like Gunman Chronicles was a Half-Life 1 mod without Half-Life. Stop sugarcoating it all.

[Bajsefar]

Umm, he said they licensed the source engine, which is in itself not half-life 2.
So basically it will not be a mod, since it will be built only from an engine, and not another game.
Am i right?

And stop trolling! -.-'