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Common base locations (and their names)

Started by Norfenstein, April 23, 2006, 04:47:24 AM

Mopatop

do people stop using teslas when building cos they rely on the def comp? cos lately i havent seen nyone using teslas

AKAnotu

Quote from: mopatopdo people stop using teslas when building cos they rely on the def comp? cos lately i havent seen nyone using teslas
people don't use teslas because they do less dps than turrets, have less health, and because their completely reliant on a dc

Stof

Quote from: AKAnotu
Quote from: mopatopdo people stop using teslas when building cos they rely on the def comp? cos lately i havent seen nyone using teslas
people don't use teslas because they do less dps than turrets, have less health, and because their completely reliant on a dc
Tesla have more health than turrets. Granted, both of them die in 2 Adv Goon barbs.
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Plague Bringer

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Quote from: AKAnotu
Quote from: mopatopdo people stop using teslas when building cos they rely on the def comp? cos lately i havent seen nyone using teslas
people don't use teslas because they do less dps than turrets, have less health, and because their completely reliant on a dc
Tesla have more health than turrets. Granted, both of them die in 2 Adv Goon barbs.
that and teslas are more prone to snipage then turrets anyway. if I had 10 build points left and a defcomp, I'd spend it on a well placed turret ranther then a tesla.
U R A Q T

player1

Can this thread be summarized in a short post? I'm thinking something like this:

ATCS H default A rooftop s3

for all of the (eight?) default maps, at least, and a couple of the current faves on the public servers? ATCS, Arachnid, Karith, Nexus, Niveus, Transit, Tremor, Uncreation & maybe Ancient Remains or something like that? Would be most helpful.

_Equilibrium_

part of the thread is giving a godd layout of the spot, not just where to put your base. if you build bad, it does nto matter where you build.


TinMan

They don't suck, you just need to have them hidden from adv goons yet still able to zap anything that enters the area you're protecting with them.
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Nux

IMO the prime spot to have tesla is shielding your defense computer. They're tall so it's hard to take down the defence computer without taking down the teslas first.

This way, the rest of your defense can consist of turrets (and the few humans who decide to defend). The turrets can be improved by the defcomp and the defcomp has defence of it's own.

This I think works better than putting the armoury in front of the defcomp as the humans rely on having an armoury more than they rely on one or two teslas.

Plague Bringer

so they spend 20 bp on teslas when they could spend 10 on an extra arm or 8 on an extra defcom

EDIT : they could have 2 extra fuxxing defcoms!
U R A Q T


Nux

Quote from: Plague Bringerso they spend 20 bp on teslas when they could spend 10 on an extra arm or 8 on an extra defcom

EDIT : they could have 2 extra fuxxing defcoms!

I don't think of any of those suggestions preferable since extra armories or defcomps serve no purpose other than as targets for destruction. Teslas are also targets for destruction and yet also defend the base by actually hurting the thing that dares to take a bite out of it.


Coca-Cola

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Quote from: Stof
Quote from: AKAnotu
Quote from: mopatopdo people stop using teslas when building cos they rely on the def comp? cos lately i havent seen nyone using teslas
people don't use teslas because they do less dps than turrets, have less health, and because their completely reliant on a dc
Tesla have more health than turrets. Granted, both of them die in 2 Adv Goon barbs.
that and teslas are more prone to snipage then turrets anyway. if I had 10 build points left and a defcomp, I'd spend it on a well placed turret ranther then a tesla.

I would build the tesla, I try to put ONE near the reactor every game, it makes mara hops a hell of a lot hard since when it damages you it has a bit of a push back.
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_Equilibrium_

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screenshots
i don't speak that language.

ApikaChiasse

The base that beat everyone/everything is the bed! You get in and you feel the carnage, it's sure, i beat everyone because of my big dick but when you had just a little one ZOMG it's the suicide!

n00b pl0x

i like the idea of having one telsa; next to the reactor. that way you dont have to worry about any reac jumpers unreachable by turrets. unless its s3, at which point you should have at least 1 person defending anyways.
will sort out my sig, or I will get banned.

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Nux

I don't think there should be people defending at s3. How am I supposed to take down the reac if they never leave it undefended?

Plague Bringer

With a little bit of skill on your part and a bit of stupidity on the human's part.
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Nux

..and Blind-Luck! Don't forget Blind-Luck!

Though alot of my routine relies heavily on throwing enough of myself at thier base for them to handle in a short space of time.. you can never underestimate the power of Blind-Luck.

player1

Quote from: _Equilibrium_part of the thread is giving a godd layout of the spot, not just where to put your base. if you build bad, it does nto matter where you build.

Tru' dat, and yet, can we not also summarize the properties of the proper build (stagger turrets, so that when they turn around, they can still be jumped over, or run between by humans, etc.)? Asking to have this meandering thread summarized is not asking to be spoon-fed; one still has to spend the time actually building to see what works. And what, _Equi_, would be the worst that could happen? Someone might lose a round? N00bs do crazy, unannounced reactor moves and misplacements all the time at the places where you and I play every day. If they could sift through this 5-page discussion, and learn common placements, and typical practice, without having to get through the part of the thread where it devolves from its stated task (and into individual building practice for one or two people), what would be the harm? In fact, after a couple more rounds, I'll just DIM for instant flamification. Perhaps two stickys would be best: Common Base Locations, and Proper Building Techniques.

_Equilibrium_

basically, try not to be out in the open and make sure turrets are not blocking each other.

oh, and you don't need to put the _ before and after my name. i only have those because the firs account i made wihtout the underscore would not verify.

TriedtoDestroyMetal

Hey so on ACTS instead of calling it the 'Hall' you should call it the "sidehatch"

Plague Bringer

I refer to it as the side corridor.
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_Equilibrium_

"hall" is the shortest way of putting it


TriedtoDestroyMetal

Quote from: _Equilibrium_"hall" is the shortest way of putting it
yeah but "sidehatch" is the funniest.

Zort

There is a real alien base on Arachnid2. I shall call it the Red Room. I've seen it done in-game, but it didn't work because they put the OM in the wrong corner and there was no tube on the ceiling, so the overmind was prifled from outside and jettards destroyed the rest.
Screenshots:

That screenshot does not show the barricade and tube outside, so:
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs314&d=07175&f=arachnidAbase2.jpg - The tube is a little hidden, to stop humans from shooting the overmind without going in. It is a little to the left of the very center of the screenshot.
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs314&d=07175&f=arachnidAbase3.jpg - The barricade blocks anything bigger than a normal dragoon.
And to get to it:
Go out this entrance to the default base:
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs314&d=07175&f=arachnidAbase4.jpg
Take a right as soon as you can:
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs314&d=07175&f=arachnidAbase5.jpg
And there you are:
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs314&d=07175&f=arachnidAbase6.jpg
It's not great, because there are open corridors leading up to it, and it is close to the human base, but it is far better than the default. There is also a safe spot, in the corner opposite the overmind.
I have seen a human base in it, except the reactor was built on the ledge above the booster.