pm spammers

[Fluxflashor]

Yep, this might be his real IP 70.48.14.11, not to good with IPs though, so i'm sorry if i'm wrong. (It's a pretty old IP from a long time ago)

Browser to http://192.168.2.1
Hit the button that says disconnect
Hit the button that says connect
Browse to C:\documents and settings\fluxflashor\local settings\application data\tremulous\base
Rename qkey to oldguid
Boot up trem
Open up console type /exec hax.cfg
Cause more hell with Spidey

TYKTKXBAI

70.48.0.0/16
65.95.0.0/16
65.92.0.0/16
209.221.0.0/16
have fun server ops (i think at least one of those is a bit smaller than a /16, but it's pretty close)

I laugh at the fools that think they can ban me LMAO

Server Ops, this is an invite for you all to ban my IP addresses, I will continue getting more of them, I only play on my server anyways, so it doesnt really matter.

[tuple]

You don't seem to understand how IPs work.  The bans listed by kevlarman would ban all IPs that you could possibly get through your ISP.  Sure, it would ban a good chunk or Bell Canada customers, but oh well.  You cannot get any potential IP in existence, you are limited to the range leased by bell canada.  The range can very easily be looked up on teh intarweb.

A firewall rule could be set up instead, so you wouldn't even see the server to know it exists.

Sure, you could use tor or another proxy.  Pretty extensive lists exist which would only need to be pointed to by some pretty simple scripts to block those at the firewall.  It wouldn't stop you completely, but it would mean even more work for you to connect to a simple server.

What I mean is:
You can piss in your neighbors pool all you want.  They won't really mind so much, the chlorine will take care of it.  But you'll never be invited to their parties.  In fact, they'll never help you in any way.

But you just go on pissing all over everyone.  We're used to watching people grief like crazy, and then cry that noone talks to them when they've had a change of heart.

[Lakitu7]

I have done an early update of my qvm to address this issue.
http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4902

[DHRUVINATOR]

Im lost whats Flux done apart from hacking SST?

[treminator]

This thread is in large part what's wrong with Tremulous, and why I don't frequent here much anymore...

First, Timbo, you really need to bring out the ban hammer on flux.  He openly admits (and is quite arrogant) about griefing a tremulous server admin.  You would think the devs (and mods) here would show a little more appreciation to the server ops.

Second, in conjunction with the first, this board is way too tolerant of flamers and spammers.  Wasn't so in the past.  And so what if you have to start banning left and right for a few weeks as they continually create new accounts.  They'll eventually get tired or get with the program.  And if you're not up to the task, maybe you shouldn't be a moderator here.

Third, spidey, I would suggest you direct an email to his ISP and state that he's flooding your server (comparable to a DOS in effect).  Just attach this email thread as well.  When flux's ISP drops his service, watch how quickly you get his attention.  If someone is hosting your server, contact them as well.  Apparently, you don't get much support here from this community.

[Patriotpie]

You don't seem to understand how IPs work.  The bans listed by kevlarman would ban all IPs that you could possibly get through your ISP.

Then get the IPs that your ISP doesn't provide. Ever heard of an IP spoofer? Freely available to any g00n, 4chan, X0rz, or curse-x registered member that feels like using the search button on the forums.

[Death On Ice]

One word: Proxies.

We can't ban all of them, people.  :-?

Hopefully people too stupid to learn to play, a.k.a Cheaters, are too stupid to adopt these.

[Lakitu7]

Your ping through a proxy sucks.

[Overdose]

Why don't we just ban the whole world and make Tremulous invite only?

[Survivor]

This thread is in large part what's wrong with Tremulous, and why I don't frequent here much anymore...

First, Timbo, you really need to bring out the ban hammer on flux.  He openly admits (and is quite arrogant) about griefing a tremulous server admin.  You would think the devs (and mods) here would show a little more appreciation to the server ops.

We do show appreciation and I am all for banning him. That you can't see what goes on behind the scene is sad since you were a nice member back then and I don't think you've changed.

Second, in conjunction with the first, this board is way too tolerant of flamers and spammers.  Wasn't so in the past.  And so what if you have to start banning left and right for a few weeks as they continually create new accounts.  They'll eventually get tired or get with the program.  And if you're not up to the task, maybe you shouldn't be a moderator here.

Moderators currently cannot ban. It is not our fault. We can only delete and contain. And yes we have been to tolerant but only because the rules that were set up actually had an unwritten one alongside them. It was 'Use your common sense'. But people don't want to and now we're in the shitpool.

Third, spidey, I would suggest you direct an email to his ISP and state that he's flooding your server (comparable to a DOS in effect).  Just attach this email thread as well.  When flux's ISP drops his service, watch how quickly you get his attention.  If someone is hosting your server, contact them as well.  Apparently, you don't get much support here from this community.

Indeed, if possible this is a course of action which is totally legal since most ISPs forbid his intent. And what support is there to give? An all-out flamewar?

[Caveman]

use your brains and stop complaining about grievers...

- patch the qvm
- disable rcon
- use server-unique-guids
- ban by subnet

[Fluxflashor]

use your brains and stop complaining about grievers...

- patch the qvm
- disable rcon
- use server-unique-guids
- ban by subnet

+1

But this does show how many flaws there are in Tremulous.

[Patriotpie]

omg, why u paople gotta b hatin on fluxs security team!

[Fluxflashor]

omg, why u paople gotta b hatin on fluxs security team!

I KNOW EH GREEN? X0rz FTW!

[tehOen]

games are not good places to show your leet hacking skills. they are not made to be secure but fun

[Nux]

In many cases, 'not being secure' can lead to 'not being fun'.

[Fluxflashor]

In many cases, 'not being secure' can lead to 'not being fun'.

I would have to agree with that. Why is punk buster introduced in so many games? It gets rid of the cheaters [most of the time]. Cheating is done because of insecurities. The server fixed their spam issue which makes the game fun again.

Games have to be ruined to help make the game itself more secure.

[Captain Ventris]

In many cases, 'not being secure' can lead to 'not being fun'.

I would have to agree with that. Why is punk buster introduced in so many games? It gets rid of the cheaters [most of the time]. Cheating is done because of insecurities. The server fixed their spam issue which makes the game fun again.

Games have to be ruined to help make the game itself more secure.

.....if people didn't ruin the games, then they wouldn't have to be more secure.

[tehOen]

Games have to be ruined to help make the game itself more secure.

that is not a good reasoning ... you can always find a way to ruin games
welcome to the open source gaming

[Lava Croft]

There is the kind of people that always pulled legs from spiders and there the kind of people that would bring a wounded bird home.

[PIE]

Games have to be ruined to help make the game itself more secure.

that is not a good reasoning ... you can always find a way to ruin games
welcome to the open source gaming

Ruining games has nothing to do with open source. Where there are assholes, there is a will to crap on everything. (figuratively and literally)
See Gears of War and other very very closed source games where you can't even really load an aimbot or use some other kind of external exploit. People still find a way.

[Paradox]

See Gears of War and other very very closed source games where you can't even really load an aimbot or use some other kind of external exploit. People still find a way.

Sorry, but i have to bring it up.

Ever read about the hackers on a small game called halo 2?

[DHRUVINATOR]

LoL Halo is full of aimbot just type it in youtube watch the aimbots...

[Lava Croft]

Since this thread is kind of about Fluxflashor versus spidey's server, I'll move it to the appropriate section.

Well, not exactly the appropriate section, since we lack a garbage bin.

[tehOen]

better lock it. it is about hacking

[tuple]

flux is not part of a "security team".  Do not insult real security teams with that.  You know, the ones with the sense not to brag that they cannot be caught or stopped.

While its true that proxies cannot be blocked completely, it is also true that so many of them can be blocked that it would make it time consuming to find one that isn't.  It is also true that using an unblocked proxy maliciously exposes that fact to the operator, causing it to soon be blocked.  I won't even go into the difficulty of finding a proxy with a low enough ping to allow you to connect to a server.  If this became a problem, I would think that operators would share proxy blocking lists and methods quite readily.  Sadly, this is what happens with free services (like proxies and game servers) when people abuse them.

Computer security is a risk/reward calculation, not the creation of the perfectly secure system.  Such a system does not exist in the real world.  Using security flaws to crack public systems, particularly donated systems that were created to have fun, is a testament to the ego of the person doing the cracking, and nothing else.

[Patriotpie]

There is the kind of people that always pulled legs from spiders and there the kind of people that would bring a wounded bird home.

And then there are the people that ripped legs from birds and that would bring a wounded spider home.

Or was that just me?