Author Topic: *New Release: Map FAIL beta 2 (Read 28925 times)

n.o.s.brain · « **on:** March 18, 2008, 12:21:31 am »

download beta 2: map-FAIL-b2.pk3 (remove old version from base)
screenshots:

your face · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2008, 12:22:14 am »

.pk3: ~~http://imn2rc.einsteinbennyboy.com/base/FAIL.pk3~~ (.map included in .pk3)

download: map-FAIL-2.pk3

X-20 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2008, 12:29:01 am »

I saw the map right before release on your server last night, All i have to say is, amazing work Brain and Face.

your face · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2008, 12:39:49 am »

Yeah, thanks 20 for helping with finding bugz

Quote

-[[ general ]]-----------------------------------------------------------------
   title : F.A.I.L.
   filename : FAIL.bsp
   release date : 3:45 P.M. March 17th 2008


-[[ credits ]]-----------------------------------------------------------------
   construction : "Brain" ({NoS}Brain A.K.A. n.o.s.brain) and "Face" ({NoS}Your Face A.K.A. {NoS}AppleFace)
Www.SoundSnap.com for FREE sounds And www.findsounds.com for more. Jaj for 'darkland' skybox.

   X-20 for helping test this pile o' crap!

-[[ gameplay ]]----------------------------------------------------------------
   game mode : tremulous | tremulous.net
   players : 4+ fo' sho'

-[[ construction ]]------------------------------------------------------------
   brushes: 6703
   entites: 302
   build time : A couple months
   Compile time: 5 minutes.
   Build: -meta -vis -light -fast -filter -super2
   software : gtkradiant 1.5.0 GODFATHER, q3map2build, theGIMP2.0, PakScape, Photoshop CS2

-[[ textures ]]-------------------------------------------------------------------
   A lot of the default maps, thanks to the Tremulous Devs.

-[[ legal ]]-------------------------------------------------------------------
   (C) Brain&Face Inc. 2008

-[[ Contacts ]]--------------------------------------------------------------------
   Your Face: cocoapet@sbcglobal.net or http://cocoapet.googlepages.com
        MSN: yerfaes@hotmail.com

   Brain: imn2rc@sbcglobal.net or http://imn2rc.einsteinbennyboy.com
        MSN: imn2rc@hotmail.com

-[[ "Plot" ]]--------------------------------------------------------------------
     Mission "F.A.I.L. "Epic Fail"

--You don't want to know, trust me...-- (The real excuse is, THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH LAME PLOTS IN THE PAST!)

--Enjoy if you can with all the lag!--

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2008, 01:58:59 am »

Great job Brain and Face, this is a substantial improvement on your previous maps. The only boog is that many of the shaders have missing textures - mainly the lights and the grate floors.

I'll comment on the gameplay once I've had a chance to play a few rounds.

Overall the .map is in good shape. My only real nit-pick is that the non-hinting sides of the hint brushes should be textured with the hintskip shader else unnecessary BSP splits will be formed on these faces too.

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2008, 02:15:30 am »

ill have a better compile with more rant-friendly stairs, non-killer doors, and hint fix soon

your face · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2008, 02:36:07 am »

Quote from: Taiyo.uk on March 18, 2008, 01:58:59 am

shaders have missing textures - mainly the lights and the grate floors.

Like notex?

TRaK · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2008, 02:49:08 am »

Great work, Brain and Face. I'm glad to see you've learnt from your mistakes and you've finally delivered a truly polished and elegant map. Main thing I would recommend is to noclip/clip the halls leading out of the bottom of the alien base, those little arches look to me to be very obstrusive and potentially frustrating.

I'll take a look at the .map later and I'll let you know if I have any comments

Matt2k10 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2008, 03:27:27 am »

I have to say, this map is VERY well done. Lots of detail. I LOVE the skybox. The vents aren't a boring concrete-like texture, it even looks a little futuristic(like it should). Plus you aren't walking through some vent cover with noclip, or some random vent where we don't know what happened to the cover. Clever use of the ladder shader, also. Pipe climbing ftw. I think little things like that make a map, really(though gameplay is definitely the bigger part, which I can't really test by myself). The alarm and the dead guy who tried to steal the gold were nice touches. There needs to be more maps with custom sounds. Well done.

Although I found this in the human base:

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2008, 03:29:51 am »

lol, face's endcap spam!

your face · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2008, 03:31:54 am »

fail! xD

Anyways, taiyo, all those lights and grates were default shaders from nexus6 etc. $:-\$

And BTW, the "Vent Blast" is pretty fun, you should try it out with multiple players

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2008, 03:54:36 am »

Yes, I noticed something odd - no shaders work in any map when the fail pk3 is in tremulous/base. I don't know what causes this.

your face · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2008, 04:37:40 am »

That's exactly what happened to me once

I tried searching for the problem, but couldn't find anything....

Odin · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:32:19 am »

Took me two seconds:

in(your modified version of my) base/scripts/subterranean.shader

Code: [Select]

}

models/mapobjects/deadhuman/h_head
{
	surfaceparm alphashadow
	surfaceparm trans
	cull disable
	{
		map models/mapobjects/deadhuman/h_head.tga
    rgbGen vertex
		depthWrite
		alphaFunc GE128
	}
}

That is the entire file. The problem is in that file. I'll let you figure it out.

By the way, thanks for not including me (and everyone else who wrote those hundreds of shaders included in your map) into your credits. We usually don't ask for it, but it is appreciated when you give credit where credit is due.

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:56:06 am »

ok:
1.) we had so many things that we lost track,
2.)forgot some credits in the txt
3.)are still noobs at shaders
EDIT: ignore this post

TRaK · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2008, 07:23:24 am »

You need to get rid of the first bracket in that shader file Odin mentionned.

And yes, it would be a good idea to credit those who made the textures and shaders in your map, or at least attempt to instead of just throwing in an overly general thanks to "The tremulous devs". These people(who aren't all tremulous devs) put a lot of hard work into making mapping resources freely available to you. They deserve the credit, and if it takes you an extra half hour to track down the authors of the textures you use, so be it.

On a side note, I don't think it was very nice to plaster a NOS logo smack on top of overflow's gummibunni $:-\$

That being said, I still think this is good work. You just need to make sure to give credit where credit is due, saying "we lost track" just doesn't cut it.

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2008, 07:42:02 am »

ah yes, sorry all you people who we stole from, face & brain inc. is a little shady in the legal department... we will give proper credits in b2

Knowitall66 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2008, 08:02:40 am »

Overall really great. Things that should be attended to; Sounds (Doors could have a different one and there were some silent fans) and some small things that seemed out of place/weren't quite right (including Barrels with stretched textures, crate with wrong texture on top).

Survivor · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2008, 04:10:47 pm »

1) name it map-FAIL, to be consistent with the other dudes around here

2) Try not to make your pk3 15% of joke images.
3) playerclip, hintskip, fix shader-issue and readme, release
4) receive congratulations for the leaps of improvement
5) get mapping for the competition.

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2008, 05:30:25 pm »

Quote from: Odin on March 18, 2008, 06:32:19 am

Took me two seconds:

lol, it must be a common mistake

@survivor: could both me and face could do a map together for the competition? we probably wouldn't get done if we did two separate maps...

Survivor · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2008, 05:58:56 pm »

don't see anything against it. When you win you should decide which of you gets the icon though, won't be handing out dual icons for one map. At least you're heading in the direction where I can see a possibility of winning something

.

Ingar · « **Reply #21 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:11:57 pm »

Quote from: Survivor on March 18, 2008, 04:10:47 pm

1) name it map-FAIL, to be consistent with the other dudes around here

map-fail in lowercase.
Some people actually have case-sensitive filesystems.

Survivor · « **Reply #22 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:23:32 pm »

sensitive systems for sensitive people.

your face · « **Reply #23 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:36:29 pm »

lol, like the interwebz! xD

Quote from: Taiyo.uk

Great job Brain and Face, this is a substantial improvement on your previous maps. The only boog is that many of the shaders have missing textures - mainly the lights and the grate floors.

Woo, thx. And I think we fixed that problem. (As long as everyone who downloaded beta 1 deletes it from base and puts beta 2 in instead)

Quote from: Taiyo.uk

My only real nit-pick is that the non-hinting sides of the hint brushes should be textured with the hintskip shader else unnecessary BSP splits will be formed on these faces too.

Dun! :]

Quote from: TRaK

Great work, Brain and Face. I'm glad to see you've learnt from your mistakes and you've finally delivered a truly polished and elegant map. Main thing I would recommend is to noclip/clip the halls leading out of the bottom of the alien base, those little arches look to me to be very obstrusive and potentially frustrating.

Brain dun it.

Quote from: Matt2k10

I have to say, this map is VERY well done. Lots of detail. I LOVE the skybox. The vents aren't a boring concrete-like texture, it even looks a little futuristic(like it should). Plus you aren't walking through some vent cover with noclip, or some random vent where we don't know what happened to the cover. Clever use of the ladder shader, also. Pipe climbing ftw. I think little things like that make a map, really(though gameplay is definitely the bigger part, which I can't really test by myself). The alarm and the dead guy who tried to steal the gold were nice touches. There needs to be more maps with custom sounds. Well done.

Although I found this in the human base:

Thanks, Done!

Quote from: Odin

thanks for not including me (and everyone else who wrote those hundreds of shaders included in your map) into your credits

No problem, xD

Quote from: TRaK

You need to get rid of the first bracket in that shader file Odin mentionned.

And yes, it would be a good idea to credit those who made the textures and shaders in your map, or at least attempt to instead of just throwing in an overly general thanks to "The tremulous devs". These people(who aren't all tremulous devs) put a lot of hard work into making mapping resources freely available to you. They deserve the credit, and if it takes you an extra half hour to track down the authors of the textures you use, so be it.

On a side note, I don't think it was very nice to plaster a NOS logo smack on top of overflow's gummibunni Undecided

That being said, I still think this is good work. You just need to make sure to give credit where credit is due, saying "we lost track" just doesn't cut it.

Complete...

Quote from: Survivor

1) name it map-FAIL, to be consistent with the other dudes around here Smiley
2) Try not to make your pk3 15% of joke images.
3) playerclip, hintskip, fix shader-issue and readme, release
4) receive congratulations for the leaps of improvement
5) get mapping for the competition.

1) Dun
2) Uh oh...
3) Dun
4) Thank yew! Thank yew!
5) mebe...

Quote from: Knowitall66

crate with wrong texture on top

Uh ohz, where might that bugz be?

Quote from: Survivor

When you win you should decide which of you gets the icon

Brain fo' sho'... it's his fault why I'm into Trem anyways

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #24 on:** March 18, 2008, 07:02:40 pm »

Quote from: your face on March 18, 2008, 06:36:29 pm

Quote from: Survivor
2) Try not to make your pk3 15% of joke images.

2) Uh oh...

Face is getting sentimental about his joke pictures...

CreatureofHell · « **Reply #25 on:** March 18, 2008, 08:35:19 pm »

The jokes win! I don't know why everyone calls maps like this improvement. They're all good in their own way. Go facey!

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #26 on:** March 18, 2008, 09:06:24 pm »

fail beta 2 released, get rid of the old version

thirdstreettito · « **Reply #27 on:** March 19, 2008, 01:35:41 am »

TURN UP YOUR BRIGHTNESS!

n.o.s.brain · « **Reply #28 on:** March 19, 2008, 03:41:43 am »

you mean in the map or in the screenshots?

your face · « **Reply #29 on:** March 19, 2008, 04:37:52 am »

Both?

Anyways, here's the new and updated .txt:

Quote

-[[ general ]]-----------------------------------------------------------------
   title : F.A.I.L.
   filename : FAIL-2.bsp
   release date : 3:45 P.M. March 17th 2008


-[[ credits for textures, shaders, models, sounds, and testing ]]-----------------------
   construction : "Brain" ({NoS}Brain A.K.A. n.o.s.brain) and "Face" ({NoS}Your Face A.K.A. {NoS}AppleFace)
Www.SoundSnap.com for FREE sounds And www.findsounds.com for more. Jaj for 'darkland' skybox.

   X-20 for helping test this pile o' crap!
   Odin, for The dead human shader.
   vcxzet, for the dead human model.
   Overflow, for dropship model, and shaders.
   nicolas "jex" jansens | jex@orodu.net, for all the shaders and textures.
   Stannum, for blood shaders.
   Vedacon, for his "ds-old-tex" texture set.
   Yves 'evillair' Allaire http://evillair.net/ for shaders and textures.
   Randy 'ydnar' Reddig http://www.shaderlab.com for shaders and textures.
   mike 'Veda' mcinnerney http://www.cybercowboys.com/~mike/ for shaders and textures.
   Godmil for shaders from karith.
   Amethyst7 http://amethyst7.gotdoofed.com/ shaders and textures.

-[[ gameplay ]]----------------------------------------------------------------
   game mode : tremulous | tremulous.net
   players : 4+ fo' sho'

-[[ construction ]]------------------------------------------------------------
   brushes: 6738
   entites: 305
   build time : A couple months
   Compile time: 2 hours.
   Build: -meta -v -custinfoparms -vis -saveprt -light -fast -patchshadows -shade -filter -v -bounce 2 -super 2 -samplesize 16 -samples 3
   software : gtkradiant 1.5.0 GODFATHER, q3map2build, theGIMP2.0, PakScape, Photoshop CS2, FilterForge.

-[[ legal ]]-------------------------------------------------------------------
   (C) Brain&Face Inc. 2008

   textures by yves allaire fall under this license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/

textures from shaderlab are subject to the terms of this notice: Usage and
redistribution policy: Textures may be freely downloaded, modified, and used
in free maps, mods or total conversions provided this copyright notice is
left intact and a link to Shaderlab is provided in the credits or read-me
file. Other non-commercial applications are considered on a case-by-case
basis via e-mail. All other usage requires written permission. Bulk
redistribution or archival of the textures in any medium, digital or
otherwise (except mapping packages for mods) is prohibited.

-[[ Contacts ]]--------------------------------------------------------------------
   Your Face: cocoapet@sbcglobal.net or http://cocoapet.googlepages.com
        MSN: yerfaes@hotmail.com

   Brain: imn2rc@sbcglobal.net or http://imn2rc.einsteinbennyboy.com
        MSN: imn2rc@hotmail.com

-[[ "Plot" ]]--------------------------------------------------------------------
     Mission "F.A.I.L. "Epic Fail"

--You don't want to know, trust me...-- (The real excuse is, THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH LAME PLOTS IN THE PAST!)

--Enjoy if you can with all the lag!--

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Author Topic: *New Release: Map FAIL beta 2 (Read 28925 times)