Author Topic: Random map: Possible or not? (Read 6669 times)

FrameShifter · « **on:** May 10, 2008, 06:06:12 pm »

I have an idea, but am not sure is it possible to make a map like that. Anyhow, can there be a map that is composed of moving pieces and those pieces all put themselves in such a way that they form a different map every time the new game starts?
Would such a thing be possible?

Survivor · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2008, 06:18:02 pm »

Although possible, it will run into trouble 98% of the time. Less randomness heightens the percentage although you will still have a lot of work to do.

doomagent13 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2008, 11:05:08 pm »

Would be easier to just set the server up to choose a random map at map load. There would also be problems due to the inability to build on moving walls/floors/brushes.

mooseberry · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2008, 11:18:27 pm »

If you made every square inch random it would be total chaos. If you just made some hallways and the like shift around, and you had prepared for it... than it is POSSIBLE.

Odin · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2008, 03:33:29 am »

If Tremulous ran on the Sauerbraten engine then yes, it's definitely possible. Sauerbraten(Cube 2) was made for this.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2008, 04:08:24 am »

Quote from: Odin on May 11, 2008, 03:33:29 am

If Tremulous ran on the Sauerbraten engine then yes, it's definitely possible. Sauerbraten(Cube 2) was made for this.

If it ran on the Diablo1 engine too. Too bad that's just not the case.

FrameShifter · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2008, 10:15:17 pm »

Oh well, then i should work on some more simple matters first, or wait for trem 1.2. Maybe it will make it easier, or it won't change a thing.

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2008, 04:59:00 pm »

It won't change a thing as far as making random maps practical as the engine will still be Q3 based.

techhead · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2008, 08:01:00 pm »

One problem would be ensuring that there exists at least two routes to the enemy base from default base locations.

I think that a maze with color-coded button-operated walls would be funny.
Part of the funniness would be that both teams have a set of buttons, and each button controls multiple doors.

Ckit: "Press the red button so I can get through! No, not the orange one, there's a Tyrant on the other side! Great, now I'm trapped with him."
Bsuit: "Dude, no-one on our team was pressing any buttons."

Amtie · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2008, 09:50:45 pm »

Have a ckit say a sentence that long and you'd get a hundred dretch "om nom nom nom"-ing him/her in no time. Shifting wall-maps would look great.

ShadowNinjaDudeMan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:10:36 pm »

Didnt PB do a temple one (modelled off of AvP) that consisted of shifting things to cover, uncover pathways?

Cant remember its name though.

Hugoagogo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2008, 11:51:53 am »

what would happen if you made a map thats a grid of doors at the strat of the map they all choose a random position you would make a few non door paths to ensure conection to the opposeing base

also is it possible to use scripts in tremulous eg
http://nibsworld.com/rtcw/tutorial_script_mover_part1.shtml

Survivor · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2008, 12:02:17 pm »

No scripts, yes random doors is the only way to randomize maps. It introduces some inconveniences though.

Odin · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:48:34 pm »

Hugoagogo: That is a reported attack site according to Firefox 3.

Hugoagogo · « **Reply #14 on:** June 08, 2008, 01:49:44 am »

ok forefox 2 didnt say anything when i went to it i found it on a google search

Odin · « **Reply #15 on:** June 08, 2008, 07:42:35 am »

Here's the warning:

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://nibsworld.com/rtcw/tutorial_script_mover_part1.shtml

Hugoagogo · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2008, 07:59:39 am »

meh ok

Archangel · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2008, 09:27:03 am »

Well, depends on your definition of random, but I once wrote a little perl script that generated an ENTIRELY RANDOM .map file (absolutely no correlation on anything. whatsoever.)

It was a mess of random ATCS textures + a huge blob of very pointy brushes.

epsy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2008, 07:35:17 pm »

BUT it was a random map!

retrogamer · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2008, 11:03:20 pm »

You can probably generate a random map using an outside program. I am not sure if it is possible to do it within Trem without rewriting the source, but I know little about map editing as of now. I made something in java using Prim's algorithm, I could rewrite that to output a .map file. I should note that I am pretty sure I could only get it working on a 2D map, that is one with no stairs, ramps, ect, or more technically all of the floors have the same z value.

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Author Topic: Random map: Possible or not? (Read 6669 times)

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