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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Genki on January 04, 2009, 03:52:40 pm

Title: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 04, 2009, 03:52:40 pm
The Random Keywhackers are hosting a tournament and we want you there!

What
A regular monthly tournament that people can look forward too

Who
Teams of 4+1 sub
Open to North America only

When
Weekend of January 17th and 18th
Sign up's open from January 1st

Where
.:RK:. Servers

Server Settings
- Gravity is 800
- Speed is 320
- Buildpoints: 100
- No Extreme Sudden Death
- Sudden Death: 30
- Timelimit: 45
- Unlagged: ON
- Map: ATCS
- Friendly Fire: ON
- Friendly Fire Buildables: ON
- Servers are in Chicago (ping randomkeywhacking.com)

Info
2 rounds (1 as human, 1 as alien)
Single Elimination
RC jumps/spawn killing allowed

Sign ups are a bit tricky at first so please read the Sign Up Page Info (http://randomkeywhacking.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=188)*

For More Tourney Rules and Info please visit the Random Keywhacking Website (http://randomkeywhacking.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=189)*

*Please note that although the tournament pages themselves are not complete sign ups ARE open and that you will not be able to sign up until you are registered on the forums.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: khalsa on January 04, 2009, 07:35:13 pm
Cool.

Sudden death mode?

Good luck.

Khalsa
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 04, 2009, 09:10:44 pm
Thanks :]

And sudden death mode 2

rebuild booster, om, rc, arm, medi, dc
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Hendrich on January 07, 2009, 09:55:49 pm
Looks promising and normal to me, goodluck.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 08, 2009, 02:18:00 am
lol looks normal?

Thanks :]
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 11, 2009, 09:57:13 pm
Don't forget about this! Happening this weekend!
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 15, 2009, 01:00:52 am
*New Rule* for those signed up but not on a team they will be a "universal sub" meaning if they show up for a match team leaders may enlist them however once they sub for a team they may only play for that team for the duration of the tournament.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 16, 2009, 08:14:35 am
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/KakashiGirl/Graphics/Random/TOT.png
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Sap on January 16, 2009, 11:39:50 am
Nice, a couple of parallel sessions.  Will try to visit (if I get up that early  ;D ).
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 17, 2009, 07:03:58 pm
tourney server passwords are butter1
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 17, 2009, 09:25:35 pm
Match Results & New Match Times (http://randomkeywhacking.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205&start=0)
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 18, 2009, 09:58:41 pm
Tournament Results (http://randomkeywhacking.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206&start=0)
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: your face on January 18, 2009, 11:47:25 pm
duzn't open sir
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 19, 2009, 12:23:09 am
Their forums are down :/
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on January 19, 2009, 01:24:57 am
works for me
Title: Re: TOT - NA
Post by: player1 on January 19, 2009, 02:08:48 am
Perhaps it would be useful to specify browser. As in: Works OK in Safari.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on January 19, 2009, 02:13:31 am
works ok in safari
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: your face on January 19, 2009, 02:20:31 am
so I must go and downloads the safaris? :{

e:well, who won?
Title: Re: TOT - NA
Post by: player1 on January 19, 2009, 02:20:41 am
works ok in safari

ditto firefox (and I can confirm safari)

e:

Congratulations to Xenocide!

Round 2
Inflicted Sanction vs Xenocide
game 1: Timelimit hit
game 2: Xeno wins

Xenocide Moves on By Win

Tittally Uber Noobers vs velociRaptor
game 1: N/A
game 2: N/A

velociRaptor Moves on By Forfeit

Finals
Xenocide vs velociRaptor
game 1: Xeno Wins
game 2: Xeno Wins

Xenocide Wins The Tremulous Open Tournament!

Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: your face on January 19, 2009, 02:22:02 am
wait, nevermind, it works.  But before it had a fatal error, and I can confirm that.
Title: Re: TOT - NA!
Post by: player1 on January 19, 2009, 02:24:18 am
IE?

Maybe they were updating the site or something...

The list of banned ip's is impressive. :P
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Archangel on January 19, 2009, 02:26:48 am
dracone, dracone, dracone, dracone, random people, dracone.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: player1 on January 19, 2009, 02:46:42 am
and one of Anthony's umpteen gazillion ip's

8)
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: your face on January 19, 2009, 03:19:54 am
Hehe, well done zenoside. :)
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: fleash eater on January 19, 2009, 03:49:04 am
man i wish us TuN (tittally uber noobers) folk would've gone further  >:( o well
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: St. Anger on January 19, 2009, 06:07:12 am
Genki you are an idiot. Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 19, 2009, 06:35:27 am
works for me

Actually, they were down for everyone, not just certain browsers but I hit WireDDD up on msn and he got them back up.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 19, 2009, 09:47:52 pm
yeah sorry about the forums being down, wire was doing something to the webserver.

St. Anger: Were you even there? O.o
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Yarou on January 19, 2009, 09:56:37 pm
Genki you are an idiot. Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Seconded.

Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 20, 2009, 02:38:09 am
Genki you are an idiot. Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Seconded.


+1

Next week I'm having a swimming tournament at my house, you should all swing by.

Banned from entry:
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 20, 2009, 02:39:47 am
Genki you are an idiot. Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Seconded.


+1

Next week I'm having a swimming tournament at my house, you should all swing by.

Banned from entry:
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Antonia Banderas
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps


fixt
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Hendrich on January 20, 2009, 02:43:41 am
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he/she/it/Unit_469 had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 20, 2009, 02:48:45 am
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
She had a reason, but from what I understand it was fairly silly.

I don't really care though, since half the members of the prominent clan scene are dicks anyway.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Genki on January 20, 2009, 03:23:56 am
Ugh how many times do I have to explain.

1. I warned him at the beginning not to annoy me by spamming and he'd be allowed to stay
2. He kept repeatedly spamming spec chat
3. He kept changing his name
4. I kicked him for a few minutes as a warning while I straightened out the playing teams
5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that
7. He was on the final tourney server under an alias and I banned him from there as well for reasons 1-5
8. He got some of his buddies to show up under his name/ changing their name to his so they all received a ban
9. He got barred from future tournaments for all his actions combined.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Hendrich on January 20, 2009, 03:42:21 am
Ugh how many times do I have to explain.

1. I warned him at the beginning not to annoy me by spamming and he'd be allowed to stay
2. He kept repeatedly spamming spec chat
3. He kept changing his name
4. I kicked him for a few minutes as a warning while I straightened out the playing teams
5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that
7. He was on the final tourney server under an alias and I banned him from there as well for reasons 1-5
8. He got some of his buddies to show up under his name/ changing their name to his so they all received a ban
9. He got barred from future tournaments for all his actions combined.

Sorry, who exactly was this person? It sounds like he/she was being an ass, according to your side of the story.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Bissig on January 20, 2009, 04:00:41 am
Quote
+1

Next week I'm having a swimming tournament at my house, you should all swing by.

Banned from entry:
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps

Well, you don't want anyone doping to come do you?
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Exclamation on January 20, 2009, 05:11:55 am
Ugh how many times do I have to explain.

1. I warned him at the beginning not to annoy me by spamming and he'd be allowed to stay
2. He kept repeatedly spamming spec chat
3. He kept changing his name
4. I kicked him for a few minutes as a warning while I straightened out the playing teams
5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that
7. He was on the final tourney server under an alias and I banned him from there as well for reasons 1-5
8. He got some of his buddies to show up under his name/ changing their name to his so they all received a ban
9. He got barred from future tournaments for all his actions combined.

This is exactly how it went down. He deserves to be banned.
However, I do think you should unban Anthony and Denton.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on January 20, 2009, 05:29:01 am
Sorry, who exactly was this person? It sounds like he/she was being an ass, according to your side of the story.

http://randomkeywhacking.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206&start=0
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 20, 2009, 05:40:04 am
Sounds good except for

5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that

Damn, sounds like the old Dretch Tsunami admin. "I'm admin so you can't say things to hurt my feelings. If you told someone else to shut up, it'd be fine, but not to me! I'm important!"

Ohdam, team chat was being spammed. And THAT really fucks up the game, lemme tell ya. Seriously, have admins forgotten there's a !mute command? Wonder what we could use that for? Oh yeah! shutting people up! Wait no, let's just ban them and cause a big scene.

Boo.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 20, 2009, 06:06:22 am
Sounds good except for

5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that

Damn, sounds like the old Dretch Tsunami admin. "I'm admin so you can't say things to hurt my feelings. If you told someone else to shut up, it'd be fine, but not to me! I'm important!"

Ohdam, team chat was being spammed. And THAT really fucks up the game, lemme tell ya. Seriously, have admins forgotten there's a !mute command? Wonder what we could use that for? Oh yeah! shutting people up! Wait no, let's just ban them and cause a big scene.

Boo.

Dretch Tsunami ftw.


Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: FreaK on January 20, 2009, 06:27:47 am
Ugh how many times do I have to explain.

1. I warned him at the beginning not to annoy me by spamming and he'd be allowed to stay
2. He kept repeatedly spamming spec chat
3. He kept changing his name
4. I kicked him for a few minutes as a warning while I straightened out the playing teams
5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that
7. He was on the final tourney server under an alias and I banned him from there as well for reasons 1-5
8. He got some of his buddies to show up under his name/ changing their name to his so they all received a ban
9. He got barred from future tournaments for all his actions combined.

This is exactly how it went down. He deserves to be banned.
However, I do think you should unban Anthony and Denton.
yeah, vR probably won't sign up because thats like 1/2 of our active roster.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 20, 2009, 12:47:34 pm
Ugh how many times do I have to explain.

1. I warned him at the beginning not to annoy me by spamming and he'd be allowed to stay
2. He kept repeatedly spamming spec chat
3. He kept changing his name
4. I kicked him for a few minutes as a warning while I straightened out the playing teams
5. He came back with his name changed to "you shut up"
6. He got banned for that
7. He was on the final tourney server under an alias and I banned him from there as well for reasons 1-5
8. He got some of his buddies to show up under his name/ changing their name to his so they all received a ban
9. He got barred from future tournaments for all his actions combined.

This is exactly how it went down. He deserves to be banned.
However, I do think you should unban Anthony and Denton.
yeah, vR probably won't sign up because thats like 1/2 of our active roster.

It's ok Xenocide would beat you again anyways.








(just playing)  :P
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: St. Anger on January 20, 2009, 01:14:37 pm
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
She had a reason, but from what I understand it was fairly silly.

I don't really care though, since half the members of the prominent clan scene are dicks anyway.

Then you don't care about competition.

What's the point of a tourney if you're going to ban players for barely doing anything, all you do is lower the competition. I can assure you if you keep that up Genki your tourneys are going to be a complete failure.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Urcscumug on January 20, 2009, 02:58:08 pm
Anyway. Are any recordings of the matches available?
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: FreaK on January 20, 2009, 05:21:24 pm
I can upload the recording of our match vs Xenocide if you guys want
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Urcscumug on January 20, 2009, 06:34:13 pm
Definitely. I would have expected such recordings to be more sought after. Server slots limit Trem's ability of becoming a live spectator sport, but the recordings have real potential.

BTW, does it matter what client you play the demo on?

Tip: I'd pay good money for a DVD filled with footage from good Trem matches with voice-over commentary from a notorious player. A sort of documentary/video tutorial kind of thing. It's not even very hard to do. Once you have the appropriate demo recording you can replay them and capture video and sound with certain applications, then cut and encode it and add the commentary. Final step, profit.

You'd have to ask around how much would people be willing to pay but I'd venture to guess that there would be interest. Especially if it features well known clans and players and especially if the stuff comes from a tournament. And I can even imagine more than just Trem fans being interested; if it's good stuff it can serve as a generic tactic and strategy tutorial, or attract the attention of other FPS game fans.

So, TOT organizers: at future editions please have someone record from a spectator view and post the demo file. The more the merrier. And the in-game team chat is also particularly interesting (and funny) so if the players can be bothered please also record and post please.

I'll try myself at one of the next editions, but my time zone is quite different from the US, plus I get 150+ ping.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: FreaK on January 20, 2009, 06:37:18 pm
http://www.mediafire.com/?nr0qnzzoidf

Here you go :P
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Urcscumug on January 20, 2009, 08:44:24 pm
Thank you. I don't supposed there's more? From Xenocide, or from other matches. Or from a spectator view. :)

It was interesting to watch. Let's just say that the dynamics of a higher level game are quite different from carefree games on public servers. A bit too overcautious for my taste, but I guess in tournament finals you're gonna play it safe.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 20, 2009, 09:28:14 pm
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
She had a reason, but from what I understand it was fairly silly.

I don't really care though, since half the members of the prominent clan scene are dicks anyway.

Then you don't care about competition.

What's the point of a tourney if you're going to ban players for barely doing anything, all you do is lower the competition. I can assure you if you keep that up Genki your tourneys are going to be a complete failure.


Heh, the others should of known not to connect named as dracone, and banning any V members wouldn't matter, since they made it perfectly clear they didn't want to be involved in the tourny.  So why did they even bother to show up?

I think permantly banning someome from the tournament is silly, but I think you guys getting mad about it over a touranment you didn't even want to be in is even more silly.

Silly kids.


Since Lava Croft isn't here.

I'll do

MORE DRAMA PLZ
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: St. Anger on January 20, 2009, 11:33:47 pm
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
She had a reason, but from what I understand it was fairly silly.

I don't really care though, since half the members of the prominent clan scene are dicks anyway.

Then you don't care about competition.

What's the point of a tourney if you're going to ban players for barely doing anything, all you do is lower the competition. I can assure you if you keep that up Genki your tourneys are going to be a complete failure.


Heh, the others should of known not to connect named as dracone, and banning any V members wouldn't matter, since they made it perfectly clear they didn't want to be involved in the tourny.  So why did they even bother to show up?

I think permantly banning someome from the tournament is silly, but I think you guys getting mad about it over a touranment you didn't even want to be in is even more silly.

Silly kids.


Since Lava Croft isn't here.

I'll do

MORE DRAMA PLZ

For one, only one {V} member showed up. Two, we said we weren't interested in the tourney at the moment. Three, whoever said we were angry?
I'm criticizing Genki for being so rash about the situation. I like how you seem to know our emotions over the internet though, silly kid.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: 2nerdy4u on January 20, 2009, 11:51:09 pm
Damn, sounds like the old Dretch Tsunami admin. "I'm admin so you can't say things to hurt my feelings. If you told someone else to shut up, it'd be fine, but not to me! I'm important!"

The "so shut up" ban was for evading his previous ban, not for him renaming himself.

Ohdam, team chat was being spammed. And THAT really fucks up the game, lemme tell ya. Seriously, have admins forgotten there's a !mute command? Wonder what we could use that for? Oh yeah! shutting people up! Wait no, let's just ban them and cause a big scene.

Boo.

He was muted. The next match came around, and we decided to give him another chance by not remuting. He continued to be a nuisance, so we decided to ban. At that point he was just taking up space.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: IabzO.o on January 20, 2009, 11:56:12 pm
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
She had a reason, but from what I understand it was fairly silly.

I don't really care though, since half the members of the prominent clan scene are {V}aginas anyway.

IABZ FIXED DIS FOR U
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 21, 2009, 12:18:11 am
Quote
Good job banning prominent members of the clan scene for absolutely nothing.
Well, he had a reason why, right Genki?

Right?

 :-\
She had a reason, but from what I understand it was fairly silly.

I don't really care though, since half the members of the prominent clan scene are {V}aginas anyway.

IABZ FIXED DIS FOR U

DANK U SIR
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Cipher on January 21, 2009, 02:36:48 pm
*sigh*
Maybe you should try making it a private server then. Just a thought....

Peace

-Cipher-
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Yarou on January 22, 2009, 04:07:04 pm
This tournament SUCKS
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: wireddd on January 23, 2009, 08:59:10 pm
If anyone had done this including Timbo, kevlarman or benmachine or anyone, they would have ended up getting banned as well. Dracone was causing trouble. That is all that happened, Dracone is well aware of how he acted, he deserves what he got. Dracone is only a "Prominent Member" of the tremulous community because he is good at the game. He provides no value however to the tremulous community. Being respectful is something I would expect from a prominent member of the tremulous community. As far as I am concerned Dracone is just another player. Good at trem but not a very good member of the tremulous community.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 24, 2009, 12:10:04 am
He led NT for two years, which caused relevant servers and teamspeaks to be hosted, provided the clan scene with constant match opportunities (far more than your silly tournament), has adminned just about every important server, has beta tested maps and HUDs, and is a favorite player of many,  so you can shut the fuck up, whoever you are (noone knows).
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Yarou on January 24, 2009, 01:25:42 am
If memory serves, he was PoL's bitch.
He was heavily involved with S11, etc...
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Yahoo on January 24, 2009, 01:56:21 am
If anyone had done this including Timbo, kevlarman or benmachine or anyone, they would have ended up getting banned as well. Dracone was causing trouble. That is all that happened, Dracone is well aware of how he acted, he deserves what he got. Dracone is only a "Prominent Member" of the tremulous community because he is good at the game. He provides no value however to the tremulous community. Being respectful is something I would expect from a prominent member of the tremulous community. As far as I am concerned Dracone is just another player. Good at trem but not a very good member of the tremulous community.
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k411/SiIhouette/facepalm2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Dracone on January 24, 2009, 03:42:11 am
...Dracone is well aware of how he acted, he deserves what he got.

Just to be clear, are you saying I was aware of that last part as well? That I'm aware of deserving what I got? I'm not going to jump to conclusions lest I, the tournament criminal, ruin this community helping miracle topic.

Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: AppleJuice on January 24, 2009, 10:48:18 am
All I see is that 4/7ths of the matches were won by forfeit, and the ones that were actually played were played by clans that regularly scrim anyway.


@wiredd: I really hope you don't think this "tournament" provides any greater benefit to the community than anything Dracone has done
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Grape on January 24, 2009, 11:45:41 am
y care so much if hate tourny no big deal dumass  :police: :police: :dragoon: :dragoon:
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: wireddd on January 25, 2009, 01:36:26 am
...Dracone is well aware of how he acted, he deserves what he got.

Just to be clear, are you saying I was aware of that last part as well? That I'm aware of deserving what I got? I'm not going to jump to conclusions lest I, the tournament criminal, ruin this community helping miracle topic.


I am saying that you kept it up after an admin warned you to stop. What would you have had me do? Just let you and everyone else do whatever they want on my server? What would you have done if I had done that on your server?

All I see is that 4/7ths of the matches were won by forfeit, and the ones that were actually played were played by clans that regularly scrim anyway.


@wiredd: I really hope you don't think this "tournament" provides any greater benefit to the community than anything Dracone has done

no, what I mean is that just because he has done something or is someone doesn't mean that he has special rights that everyone else does not. I refuse to treat anyone differently for any reason what so ever. I have nothing against dracone personally, we used to be in the same clan actually. If a kick vote had been called in the game it would have passed, so it is not like my admin did something that was out of the ordinary. If the community at large doesn't want us to run a tournament then we won't. Dracone could have just listened to the admin and stopped and everything would have been fine, but he didn't. And now all his clan members follow me around to various tremulous servers and try to talk trash to me, even in the mgdev game! I am tired of this, I could be working on my mod or doing something useful instead of debating this so I am going to stop. If you think what we did was wrong that is perfectly ok with me.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Bissig on January 25, 2009, 01:50:39 am
Just don't care about those teen drama queens. The hormone output will get lower as they grow older and eventually they will shut their stupid traps.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 25, 2009, 02:08:44 am
Says a man with SST in his sig. AppleJuice is no teen, and most of V is in college, as I am myself. If you're too mature for our argument, why comment about it?

As for WireDDD (with three D's for a triple dose of his retardation) asking what he would have done...we have scrims every day. We lock the teams, and restrict chat to teamsay for the spectators. We don't leave mm1 unlocked like idiots, if we don't want people to talk aloud. Basically anything goes as far as teamchat is concerned. "Spamming" as we would define it cannot occur due to spam filters. If someone is really annoying, we kick them. If they evade, we ban them for an estimated duration of the scrim (couple hours). Afterwards, everything goes back to normal. That, sir, is how the situation could have been handled in order to avoid all this bs.

Sorry to distract you from your mod that everyone will love.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 25, 2009, 02:26:46 am
Says a man with SST in his sig. AppleJuice is no teen, and most of V is in college, as I am myself. If you're too mature for our argument, why comment about it?

As for WireDDD (with three D's for a triple dose of his retardation) asking what he would have done...we have scrims every day. We lock the teams, and restrict chat to teamsay for the spectators. We don't leave mm1 unlocked like idiots, if we don't want people to talk aloud. Basically anything goes as far as teamchat is concerned. "Spamming" as we would define it cannot occur due to spam filters. If someone is really annoying, we kick them. If they evade, we ban them for an estimated duration of the scrim (couple hours). Afterwards, everything goes back to normal. That, sir, is how the situation could have been handled in order to avoid all this bs.

Sorry to distract you from your mod that everyone will love.

If I give you 30 cents will you give me 35 cents and a hug?
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Bissig on January 25, 2009, 05:31:18 am
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...is in college

EighTEEN, NineTEEN. Thanks, come again.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 25, 2009, 06:04:00 am
I, personally, am 19, but I am one of the younger ones. What are you doing playing games with us, oh master of maturity?
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on January 25, 2009, 07:00:44 am
Personally, I will say that cone's constant name changes was a bit annoying, and I said so out loud, as I was playing at the time. I didn't know it was cone as the constant name changes, from what I remember, were quite random. I do think that banning him and the others was too harsh and unnecessary. Maybe the server needs a name change limit. While I do believe the banning was unjust, I also do think cone was stupid for provoking the admins with his antics after he was kicked.

You guys jumping on the RK people is really too much. Show your support for cone, but don't blindly trash others when you weren't even there. Honestly, if what RK said happened in spec chat along with the constant name changes really did happen, I would have kicked cone too. Cone, HAS contributed a great deal the the clan community, and I am glad I was part of it for a period of time, but I do believe he was out of line this time. I like cone, and consider him a tremulous friend, but I am not going to yell at wire and germ just because I've known cone for quite a while and have never really even talked to RK before.

Life would be so much easier if both respective parties apologized to each other, and started with a clean slate. One can dream, right?
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Yahoo on January 25, 2009, 03:15:45 pm
Bissig i think you and papercut are a bit too old to be playing this game, and you being some faggy old man using age as defense in this argument is silly, you silly fuck you

also whoever was hosting this shit tourney should have at least looked at how scrims are performed before trying to hold their own, mm1 off, name change limit, spam filter, and locked teams are mandatory
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Dracone on January 25, 2009, 04:45:43 pm
Looks like both of us don't understand eachother on certain things.

Quote from: wireddd
I am saying that you kept it up after an admin warned you to stop. What would you have had me do? Just let you and everyone else do whatever they want on my server? What would you have done if I had done that on your server?

I wasn't arguing with you. Your answer doesn't even answer my question. I asked if you meant that I knew I deserved that "punishment," because I wasn't going to jump on you when you didn't word it clearly to me in the first place. As for me knowing what I deserved, I think I've seen enough scrims to say that I am used to how far I can actually go with just fucking around, and what I did was about the same as I would do elsewhere, so no, I don't feel I do. However, that's only to talk along the lines of what's extreme and what isn't. What the punishment bars me from doing, I could care less.

Quote from: wireddd
no, what I mean is that just because he has done something or is someone doesn't mean that he has special rights that everyone else does not.
 

I don't do these things out of feeling I have special rights. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that no matter how much people like you, the people who know what they're doing deal with you experience by experience, and do not bias because of previous conversations or observations of your actions. I've decided in a few cases that I won't care about the consequences of my actions. As for what I've contributed, I have not ONCE done anything in Tremulous that I thought would have its priority number 1 be to contribute to the community. I always feel I know what the effects on the community will be, but I choose to call those effects indirect results of my actions.

Quote from: wireddd
I have nothing against dracone personally, we used to be in the same clan actually.

Really? You were using a different name and it was a long, LONG time ago. If I'm wrong about THAT, I'll be amazed.

Quote from: _Equilibrium_
Personally, I will say that cone's constant name changes was a bit annoying, and I said so out loud, as I was playing at the time.

And here's where I drop off and actually admit that I went outside my own lines. Equi, I'm sorry for not reading that. Had I noticed it, I would have stopped, because I had no intentions whatsoever of disrupting flow of play for those actually participating. I'm known for being absent-minded constantly, but if I'm going to fuck around, I should pay more attention to those whose opinions of how disruptive someone is being really matter.

I suppose many people feel I should apologize. However, apologies are a way of saying you understand the consequences of your actions, and should be sent towards those who the consequences initially affect or where they come from towards you. So, I will not say sorry to the tournament hosts, but to the portion of the community that has had to see yet another issue pop up because I went beyond someone's low lines of tolerance for silly behavior.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: bleach on January 25, 2009, 09:07:12 pm
This has got to be the biggest pile of shit thread I have ever seen on these forums.  It makes me lol at how serious you guys take shit...  Have you nothing better to do than make this unenjoyable for those of us who play to play?
Title: Re: Lessons Learned???
Post by: player1 on January 25, 2009, 09:18:40 pm
mm1 off, name change limit, spam filter, and locked teams are mandatory

QFT!

becuz if these had been in place, the stuffs that cone & anthony do are pretty much harmless fun

i hope the tourney organizers have learned the valuable lesson that the only stuffs that go on is what you allow to happen
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: wireddd on January 25, 2009, 09:28:57 pm
Says a man with SST in his sig. AppleJuice is no teen, and most of V is in college, as I am myself. If you're too mature for our argument, why comment about it?

As for WireDDD (with three D's for a triple dose of his retardation) asking what he would have done...we have scrims every day. We lock the teams, and restrict chat to teamsay for the spectators. We don't leave mm1 unlocked like idiots, if we don't want people to talk aloud. Basically anything goes as far as teamchat is concerned. "Spamming" as we would define it cannot occur due to spam filters. If someone is really annoying, we kick them. If they evade, we ban them for an estimated duration of the scrim (couple hours). Afterwards, everything goes back to normal. That, sir, is how the situation could have been handled in order to avoid all this bs.

Sorry to distract you from your mod that everyone will love.
That is what we did with one other thing, MM1 was restricted to level 1 or higher and !register was in the qvm so it should have been at 2. spam filters were in place, dracone was rejoining to change his name so he got banned. we did exactly what anyone else would have done.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: wireddd on January 25, 2009, 09:34:14 pm
oops, sorry double post
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 25, 2009, 09:51:54 pm
Wrong again. This "what anyone else would do" is closer to "what anyone from KoR would do." I already outlined what a reasonable person would do.

You are being absolutely illogical at the same exact point every time. "He reconnected so he got banned" and you think that's textbook procedure or something.

If youve been running scrims so long, how have I never met you? I've been in hundreds of scrims in my time, and you've not led or participated in a single one of them. Unless of course you mean "one scrim a week for four months" in which case I understand your ignorance.

Bottom line is: It's your sucky tournament, you can do whatever you want, but I think you and worm have been assholes. As a result, AoD will never participate in your tournaments, and I encourage other clans to also limit their tournament entries to those hosted by respectable people of the clan scene( not RK) to prevent tyrannical DDDumbasses from trying to rule scrims we should be hosting on our own, but whatever happens happens. We will eternally be divided on the point of "what was worth a ban" and this argument will get nowhere.

@bleach: Noone made you read this topic. If you just want to play, go play. Anyone participating in this topic either loves arguing or has nothing better to do with ten minutes. Let us be. :)
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: David on January 25, 2009, 10:18:58 pm
Just because there is no physical restriction to stop me shooting someone, doesn't make it right to shoot them.
I have no idea what happened and couldn't care, but the people who are saying that if they didn't want people doing it they should have blocked it are idiots.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Bissig on January 25, 2009, 11:02:21 pm

--- lots of stupid shit ---


Go stretch your e-penis somewhere else. This thread is about the tournament and not your inability to accept rules.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 25, 2009, 11:44:08 pm
If you read what I posted, you would know that I stated he could run his tournament however he wanted. i.e. rules.

You're just continuing to post because you feel you shouldn't be insulted by someone without wrinkles.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Archangel on January 25, 2009, 11:58:58 pm
This has got to be the biggest pile of shit thread I have ever seen on these forums.  It makes me lol at how serious you guys take shit...  Have you nothing better to do than make this unenjoyable for those of us who play to play?
hi king
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: bleach on January 26, 2009, 12:28:03 am
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@bleach: Noone made you read this topic. If you just want to play, go play. Anyone participating in this topic either loves arguing or has nothing better to do with ten minutes. Let us be. :)

Damnit, shot down again.  Why does everyone always find a flaw in my logic?  Quit being so fucken smart...
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: wireddd on January 26, 2009, 01:38:26 am
I would like to add that the people who are complaining about it all joined the server in question after dracone was banned as variations of "dracone" and so they were all banned as well. I don't care if you or your clan does or does not want to play. If they are all like you and have no respect for the rules then you are not welcome to play.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 26, 2009, 02:21:49 am
I respect the rules set in place by respectable people.

And another thing: Yarou, AppleJuice, Yahoo, to sum it up -none of the other people posting in this thread- connected as Dracone.

Why do I not respect you? Simple: I was there when S11 came into existence. I remember half a hundred people with stolen GUIDs on every server, thanks to your beloved Pol. The fact that you chose to associate with such a person has convinced me that you cannot be trusted or respected.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: wireddd on January 26, 2009, 03:11:29 am
I respect the rules set in place by respectable people.

And another thing: Yarou, AppleJuice, Yahoo, to sum it up -none of the other people posting in this thread- connected as Dracone.

Why do I not respect you? Simple: I was there when S11 came into existence. I remember half a hundred people with stolen GUIDs on every server, thanks to your beloved Pol. The fact that you chose to associate with such a person has convinced me that you cannot be trusted or respected.
I don't like pol, I joined S11 before I ever heard about any of that, and once I found out about it I left. Besides that was a very long time ago. i'm sorry this did so much damage to your egos that you feel compelled to debate this forever,
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: KamikOzzy on January 26, 2009, 03:38:05 am
You're right here with me, sir, and I'm sure Bissig won't be far behind to demonstrate his wealth of maturity.

I'm willing to bow out now, I've said everything I wanted to. I'll even let you have the last word. Go ahead and retort; I won't retaliate. The school week starts again tomorrow morning and I won't have the time to argue.

There are no winners to this or any other online argument. We have in turn displayed our nature to over-react in defending the actions of others. We have gone out of our way to debate something neither of us were involved in, for the sake of loyalty. There is no reason to further escalate our disagreement, and I hope we meet on better terms next time.

My apologies to the clans who were scrimming, if any of this really bothered you all that much.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 26, 2009, 03:53:39 am
You're right here with me, sir, and I'm sure Bissig won't be far behind to demonstrate his wealth of maturity.

I'm willing to bow out now, I've said everything I wanted to. I'll even let you have the last word. Go ahead and retort; I won't retaliate. The school week starts again tomorrow morning and I won't have the time to argue.

There are no winners to this or any other online argument. We have in turn displayed our nature to over-react in defending the actions of others. We have gone out of our way to debate something neither of us were involved in, for the sake of loyalty. There is no reason to further escalate our disagreement, and I hope we meet on better terms next time.

My apologies to the clans who were scrimming, if any of this really bothered you all that much.


Awww my favorite clan leader being the bigger man and ending the conflict with my favorite pedophile.  I <3 you two.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: IabzO.o on January 26, 2009, 04:11:08 am
Blazeraid is the greatest pedo of tremulous and therefore he's everyone's favourite pedo, ani. You should know it!
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Grape on January 26, 2009, 04:38:58 am
HEY! their server their rules?!?!?!?! omg rly?! k bi :police:
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Annihilation on January 26, 2009, 07:38:45 am
Blazeraid is the greatest pedo of tremulous and therefore he's everyone's favourite pedo, ani. You should know it!

Nah sorry wireddd is my favorite PeDDDophile.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: Urcscumug on January 26, 2009, 01:37:44 pm
This has got to be the biggest pile of shit thread I have ever seen on these forums.  It makes me lol at how serious you guys take shit...  Have you nothing better to do than make this unenjoyable for those of us who play to play?

People need a place to vent, I suppose.

Perhaps it would be better if this thread was cleaned. Leave just the organizational stuff related to the tournament and move the rest of replies to another thread and let them continue there.
Title: Re: Tremulous Open Tournament - For North America!
Post by: 3of12 on January 26, 2009, 10:31:51 pm
My apologies to the clans who were scrimming, if any of this really bothered you all that much.

This was really stressful! I'm gonna sue Dracone and everyone else present to pay for my 6 month vacation to the Bahamas. I need it to get over all this stress. D=


OT: It was ok, really needs more clans to register and actually show up for it to be worthwhile.  :-X