Tremulous Forum
Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Si-wins on August 01, 2009, 05:24:28 am
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We are born into an unfathomable existence, on a tiny patch of space called earth that is itself a speck of dust in the galaxy that is a speck of dust in the infinite universe, and not only that, but during your entire lifetspan, you will die on an even smaller patch of space on THAT Earth.
Anyone else thinks human being are just limited and death is "unfair"? Religious people, what's the point of "Heaven", "Hell" or "Brahman" or any other mind-concoctions? That's the one thing I never really got. I don't want to be reincarnated or reunite with any Brahman, i don't want to live a blissful existence that is in itself meaningless (isn't it bound to get repetitive as well or the catch-22 is that i'll experience incessant eternal orgasms and ergo will not have time to consider the meaninglessness of it all?), I have no desire to commit to a life of hedonism here cause that is boring as well.
So... since life is an inexplicable mystery and a torture chamber, how cruel is that we are alive? The more I think of it, the more I realize that religion does not bring meaning to life but rather, further consolidates the nihilistic meaninglessness of it all!, did it ever happen, that a guy hates Atheism as much as he hates Religion, but reaches that conclusion since in the face of one-sideness and daily monotony of life, there is nothing better to do?
In short terms, how is it possible for someone like me (don't know if there are any others) to live if two of the biggest alternatives in the world (Atheism, Theism and everything inbetween) are not satisfactory?
So if I don't belong to any category, then whats the point of waking up every morning? From that point on, it seems as suicide is the best way to cork out your brain, no responsibility, no depression, no aspirations, worries or anything else, isn't that the perfect drug?
How vain it all is. Every human category. Love, Sex, Art, etc etc. People getting fatter, people getting leaner, hunks & jocks vs pickup artists and the usual joes..., movies, learning... working... why? who asked that "something" to bring me and countless others who wondered about the same question to to that existence? Why did I have to be coaxed? Why not just give it all to us at the outset, at least in that case the meaninglessness could be worth something until you're dead? Why does medicine exist, why do our bodies fail, why is there anything at all, and that magical "anything" created a world that is so far away from being "fun"? Am I ever gonna get the answer to that or should I, as had been advised here countless times, "wizen up" and self-indulge in the mystery? but what would be the point of that?
Do u understand what i'm trying to say here? Without any appeal to ignorance or pity, why is it that no matter how good you try to think the world is, how optimistic everything is and how purposeful the world is, how everything is going according to plan, how you're gonna end up being successful, with a wonderful career and a great family, how "good" people are and how much happiness you wish everyone would be showered with - the thoughts you try to nail into your brain, the mental masturbation of having to wake up everyday to the same "existence" seem like such an unenticing prospect? (no matter how well-of and high-rolling you are)
Is suicide really the only option here? Why are the suicide rates so high pretty much in every developed country (Russia, Japan, US, etc)if everyone else gets such an immense kick out of life?
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oh and btw, depression has nothing to do with me writing this post right now. that has been my opinion for a long time, but i've desperately grappled with myself trying to conceal it. Can't do that anymore. Could we please discuss this issue refraining from medical advices or any of the other trite banalities that i've already googled the net for? Philosophically speaking, what's the other emergency exists other than Religion or lack of it?:no:
I don't know why I'm posting this.. :-\
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It's simple. There is no point.
But don't let it bother you. You're free to spend you life or end it.
I think most people (athiests, nihilists, etc included) choose not to end it. They choose to enjoy it. Stop and smell the roses.
EDIT:
After reading your post a bit more carefully, I realized I grappled with a lot of the same issues as you. But you're gonna get over it.
EDIT2:
I think what's going on here is that these are birth pains - you're moving on from a materialistic viewpoint into a more Zen-like state.
Also, please. Quit bleeding and swearing. You were always one of the cool guys on DS.
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I find joy in the pursuit of knowledge, but it is far from giving my life any real meaning. I want to search for the ultimate answers, but is it fair to only give me 80 years to do it?
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Life's a journey, not a destination. Sorry that I can't do anything but spout ultimatums, but it's really about your attitude. You're still centered around fulfilling a goal. I believe there ARE NO GOALS. There is no magic. There is no purpose. So enjoy yourself!
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Exactly what I will do, but I do hope that life wont let me down. :-[
Meh, Th!nk ruined DS for me, I'll to be be kewl when I see you online.
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It's also about emotions, and emotions are caused by hormones. Try excersize. Walking produces endorphins. And laugh more. Read comics. I like Calvin and Hobbes, but the Far Side is great too. Just stay away from Garfield.
EDIT: Try AA. The competition is more difficult than DS, but it's still pretty fun.
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Ah, I have a few Far Side/C&Hs. :P
I run daily, and go to the gym every couple of days. I think that as I get older, I will start to enjoy life more... :P
I get unreliable ping on AA, but I play there sometimes.
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Si's mood seems to have improved from :-[ to :P !
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:laugh:
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We must revive PureTrem, then.
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Do you speak of the server PureTremulous? I've tried that no ones plays on it :o
Oh, revive as in, re populate :-X
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It used to be popular. It is (was) a good server. Maybe we can repopulate it. (This is actually something I've been wanting to do for a while)
EDIT: scratch that, it seems to have fallen off the server list. This probably is pretty off-topic, too.
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Yeah, but nobody else seems interested, I'd rather just think about Tremulous now. >.>
I was on PureTremulous today, maybe hit New List? ???
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It should be there right between PMW and OPPRESSED, but 'tis not.
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Hmm, I don't see it either, strange. :-\
Do you have any idea of who is on DS?
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Did you get permabanned? That sucks... Fallen, Ripeflesh, the Dark Knight are the only names I recognized.
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No, I have a 2 hour ban from Ripe for pipe camping in Nexus 6 >.> But I went out to get food anyways, 12 more minutes left.
I'm joking thats not why I'm banned, but 10 more minutes left is true :'(
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Good to see you weren't permabanned. I gtg, night. Fallen says he's sorry about the whole thing.
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Cya, yeah I talked to him.
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wat
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HAI
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Fucking emo kids. ::)
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Kaine, when I slit my wrists I'll be thinking of you. And Th!nk. :P
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Go to church every once in awhile. Yes, most Aussie players already know I am christian, but seriously. Heaven? Sounds pretty off the hook. If you just do good things to other people, and do things for good, you may think at the time it will be boring or not that fun, but an hour afterwards you will feel great.
PS: I only read the first line of your text wall.
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whoops, looks like PT wasn't set to start @reboot, fixed (reboooted today for some much-need upgrades)
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wtf
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Im glad I don't think as much as Si :)
Never let it be said that ignorance is all bad.
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@frazzler
I think heaven is probably pretty boring if it is real. And if it isn't, he's paying the cost of the enjoyment of his entire life. Although I'm not saying helping others is a bad thing; I find it to be its own reward.
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Just stay away from Garfield.
liar
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Yeah, heaven to me seems pretty boring as well. I dont want to see my loved ones/friends that passed away,again. But I'd rather there be something after death, not just loss of conciense, but I get I'll just have to except that I WILL die someday, and there is nothing I can do about it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHex-NcqX6c
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???
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it'll make you feel better about life.
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Not as good as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjatRkpSa5U).
Thanks, PhilH!
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OP: Congrats. U r nao teh mystically aware.
To return to a previous state of blissful ignorance, now spend several years disbelieving that which u nao believe.
When you accept that you know nothing, you then know everything, except whether or not you have the sense of humor to accept that existence itself is naught but a cruel joke. If one can still believe in a Creator or Greater Force at that point, the greater question then becomes whether or not that entity is testing your capacity for neophilia. Whether or not such an entity is a metaforce of the mind integrating its own parts is entirely debatable, but appears at present to be non-falsifiable.
Cheers
Of course such dichotomous thinking is caused by the this-or-that labeling mechanism of the fight-or-flee response, which, due to a fondness for low whole numbers, attempts to categorize the multiplicity of the omniverse into a few concise boxes (preferably two, if at all possible). Due to bilateral symmetry in many species, this can also be seen as a battle between the hemispheres of the brain and the attempt to control this reality-tunnel bipartisanism by the overarching structures of the self-perceiving consciousness.
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player1 makes me feel stupid and sad. >:(
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player1 makes me feel stupid and sad. >:(
Then you didn't get his message.
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player1 makes me feel stupid and sad. >:(
Then you didn't get his message.
In which case he feels sadder and stupider, and on and on.
Player1, traps the poor fool in a never ending cycle of good advice misunderstood.
:P
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I just didn't both reading his whole message, cause he is always mean ._.
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Baconizer wins :police:
Si is retarded since he bleeds/tks everyone and thinks it's funny I <3 Si because he pays me alot :angel:
Point of all this is to kill :egg:/ :telenode: and remaining :dretch: :dragoon: :basilisk: :granger: :advmarauder: :tyrant:/ :human: :helmet: :battlesuit: :-X
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I just didn't bother reading his whole message, cause he is always mean ._.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/352536104_dd64f4f1e6.jpg) (http://www.explodingdog.com/drawing/imsosad.jpg)
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Asvarox, you're a slut.
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Shit, if I had such good english skills as you, I would say my opinion. :-\
Btw, I like this kind of thread, it's rare and always kind.