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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kiwi on January 19, 2010, 10:35:17 pm
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The Karma now displays the + and - votes, but you can't edit them any more?
It's like an expired poll...
Whys this? Is it permanent?
Best Regards,
Kiwi
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I still can. Maybe the number of posts needed has gone up?
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Neither can I karma. But the new display is just fine.
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Perhaps, I get:
Kiwi
Turrets: +14/-2
View Profile WWW Email Personal Message (Online)
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I see
Kiwi
Turrets: +14/-2
[build] [decon]
Posts: 278
View Profile WWW Personal Message (Online)
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[build] [decon]
probably higher post count required (Though you have nearly 300 that should definitely be sufficient)
edit@ David: you can see post count?
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Someone cares about karma :D
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Yeah, 278 should be high enough to [build] and [decon] in my opinion. If this is what's causing this, can I ask why you bumped up the post requirement?
Warm Regards,
Kiwi
Edit: Someone cares about karma :D
Why Of Course ;)
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I cannot see build/decon......
Also, showing plus and minus looks kinda silly to me...
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now?
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Also, showing plus and minus looks kinda silly to me...
+1
And you have 300 posts, perhaps only devs, downers, and wiki people can adjust karma, but that's even more silly than a high post requirement?
Warm Regards,
Kiwi
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edit@ David: you can see post count?
Using the default theme which still has it.
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I was using "trem-temp" and couln't see it, and now I'm using "board-default" and I can't see it.
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I meant "SMF Default Theme - Core"
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Nope, that one doesn't work either.
Warm Regards,
Kiwi
Just out of curiosity, it says one person uses the pink trem forum layout. Who's that :P
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stannum ofc
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Try clicking: http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=modifykarma;sa=applaud;uid=1692;topic=12766.0;m=187480;
Maybe the error will tell you what's wrong.
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Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again.
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because we are not david :D
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Khalsa, what's the point of this?
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New karma system sucks.
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Face, it's virtually the exact same.
I like this better. Not sure why.
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I like
Also, why is face's karma -355 now? lol
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How can you have, say, "+70/-120" TURRETS. It says: "turrets: [insert retarded, default, smf, karma system here]." Turrets. It's all in the turrets.
I honestly don't see the point in changing, it's not like the karma system means anything anyways, but now it just looks lame. Maybe put karma instead of turrets.
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says the guy who suddenly has -356 karma
reminds me of the HOVEL debate
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Says the guy who has had -100+ karma for years.
Reminds me of when you say something someone doesn't want to hear, they use their uber moderator powers to make themselves feel better.
It just looks clumsier, but honesty, I guess it's just personal preference. The other one looked more "clean" imo.
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why do you complain about almost everything
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I am inputting my opinion (doesn't mean I'm complaining), and I hope it is taken into consideration. ;)
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I like the older method too, but I'm mostly upset about the new post requirement? What is it anyway?
- Kiwi
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I am inputting my opinion (doesn't mean I'm complaining), and I hope it is taken into consideration. ;)
New karma system sucks.
That's a great, constructive opinion right there!
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I can build and decon. But I have high post count and am a donater? Can someone who is donater with low post count or non-anything with high post count say if they can or can't build and decon.
Or easier... a mod could just say what has been changed.
+/- is kind of weird, I think one hand, the old number gives you a simpler idea of the persons karma, but this one gives you more info so... I don't really care either way.
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I'm a donor and I see is Turrets: +358/-301, I can't build or decon anymore.
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That's a great, constructive opinion right there!
Who said constructive?
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I'm a donor and I see is Turrets: +358/-301, I can't build or decon anymore.
I guess it is post count then, thanks. Above 300 needed? ???
Make it 1000 while you're at it.
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I'm at 301....
EDIT: aaaaaaaaand as of post #301 I can build/decon again....
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AJ, Face's complaint makes sense, what you're saying is just asshattery for the sake of it. (And not even funny asshattery... if you wanna pick on someone, try to NOT pick one of the more beloved persons on the site. Karma doesn't mean shit, if you didn't notice my net karma is positive.)
Basically: Back off, fuck off, and stop getting off on your weirdass argumentative ways. No one wants to watch you forumgasm all over Your Face.
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300+ post it is then. 15 more to go :p
Can the devs explain why they changed this, and explain why they selected the new layout for karma?
My Opinion: I'm fine with either way, but renaming it Karma would be better than turrets with the +/- way, otherwise it can be too confusing for some.
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Kaine, you don't know me very well, or else you'd realize that I don't really listen to adolescent posters. :)
I just think this is a very silly thing to complain about...just like the removal of the hovel was.
Your post is very ironic, in terms of both content and tone (also, beloved? lol).
Anyway, this karma system is more informative than the old one, at the very least. In short, why care? I think the +/- differential is pretty amusing, actually
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I like the turrets :]
!allowbuild tskuzzy please
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Lol, only 230 more post to go :P
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it's 300 posts I think we determined that already.
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it's 300 posts I think we determined that already.
My bad, good call.
Deleted my earlier post containing my details and ability to alter karma.
If someone gives me 10 cookies, and I eat 3 cookies, I now have 7 cookies. Not +10/-3 cookies. This is why it looks silly.
It's neat to see it, though. I had no idea my karma was so active. I had just figured it went up/down like 50 total. Some people must really hate me, and others must really like me. =D
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karma (http://students.ou.edu/Y/Jacob.R.Yandell-1/karma.png)
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Anyway, this karma system is more informative than the old one, at the very least. In short, why care?
I don't care, I just stated my blatant and offensive opinion. ;D
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In my opinion, it should display the total number(as before), but it should have alt text to show the +/- counts.
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In my opinion, it should display the total number(as before), but it should have alt text to show the +/- counts.
I agree.
Also, please lower the required post count to raise or lower Karma to either back where it was or change it, because I think 300 posts is a bit too high.
Lastly, regarding the donaters here, I never had known of donaters get to raise/lower Karma regardless of their post count. Was that true? If not, I don't see why something like that could be offered to donaters, doesn't really affect anything and treats them fine.
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I also think that if you're going to change the mod requirements to prevent abuse of the system then at least reset our karma level to 0. Some of us(like myself) had got negative karma every day, even when we didn't even post. One time I was getting negative karma every second for about an hour.
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I also think that if you're going to change the mod requirements to prevent abuse of the system then at least reset our karma level to 0. Some of us(like myself) had got negative karma every day, even when we didn't even post. One time I was getting negative karma every second for about an hour.
But wouldn't people just lower your karma anyways, tarnishing your initial impression to others?
How about making an option in your profile to disable people from building/adding and deconning/subtracting karma on your account, reducing it to 0(Nothing)? If people feel that Karma is just unnecessary trivial fluff, they can disable it or in Odin's case, keep people from subtracting his Karma.
/2 cents
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I also think that if you're going to change the mod requirements to prevent abuse of the system then at least reset our karma level to 0. Some of us(like myself) had got negative karma every day, even when we didn't even post. One time I was getting negative karma every second for about an hour.
Looks at your -202.
1 per second every hour
60*60=360
Tries to figure it out.
Gives up.
Does not compute.
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Lastly, regarding the donaters here, I never had known of donaters get to raise/lower Karma regardless of their post count. Was that true? If not, I don't see why something like that could be offered to donaters, doesn't really affect anything and treats them fine.
FreaK with 240 posts and a donor can't do karma stuff, so I'd assume being a donor makes no difference at all.
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hmm... so its 300 posts. i got like 100+ to go. they should add a picture of turret building as the build and a turret blowing up as destruction of a turret. both of these as gifs files.
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Kaine, you don't know me very well, or else you'd realize that I don't really listen to adolescent posters. :)
I just think this is a very silly thing to complain about...just like the removal of the hovel was.
Your post is very ironic, in terms of both content and tone (also, beloved? lol).
Anyway, this karma system is more informative than the old one, at the very least. In short, why care? I think the +/- differential is pretty amusing, actually
I agree that it's nice to be able to see who's really controversial on this forum, and who doesn't make waves... but most of that could be determined anyway with a degree of common sense. The fact that you "lower yourself" to arguing with adolescents about things you claim are "trivial" is more of a commentary on you than on any of the adolescents that you harangue.
If you're looking for more silly things to complain about, you have no further to look than here (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=12759.msg187357#msg187357).
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I also think that if you're going to change the mod requirements to prevent abuse of the system then at least reset our karma level to 0. Some of us(like myself) had got negative karma every day, even when we didn't even post. One time I was getting negative karma every second for about an hour.
Looks at your -202.
1 per second every hour
60*60=360
Tries to figure it out.
Gives up.
Does not compute.
Points to "about an hour."
Reminds you of possible randomness from human inability to be exact.
Comes up with about 180.
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Lol, I wasn't gonna say anything, but since Odin already brought it up.... 60*60 != 360. It's 3,600 bro. :P
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If someone gives me 10 cookies, and I eat 3 cookies, I now have 7 cookies. Not +10/-3 cookies. This is why it looks silly.
You got 10 cookies and eated 3 cookies. That is exactly what karma saying: +10/-3.
BTW, what about reset karma to 0 and allow only one vote from one user?
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Seems we have to spam more ::) ::) ::)
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Yes, lets spam the forums until we don't have 300 posts, so we can alter others karma, because it's the whole point of this board.
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If I could have 300 posts, I would have +1'd you.
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300 seems a bit too high.....
150 would be more realistic I think.
Unless this is all an evil plot for only devs to get karma powers..../me waits for the conspiracy theories....
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I agree it seems kinda pointless.
The only reason I can see for the limit is to stop sock-puppets voting. So 300 is OTT, and just going to encourage even more spamming.
Of course I'd also be happy to see the whole thing vanish, so meh.
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good thing the people who make the decisions about it don't have to worry about the consequences
(http://superpie.info/karma.png)
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Lol at pic.
300 posts is a bit high, but I think its good. Currently, it only allows 106 people to build and decon. This can keep people like odon from having -300 karma due to randomness, and let him have -300 karma due to those 106 people thinking his posts lack importance.
Warm Regards,
Kiwi
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Well people with 300 posts are either spammers or people who have been here a while.
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Well people with 300 posts are either spammers or people who have been here a while.
exactly, and most people don't spam 300+ messages just to mess with your karma ;)
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Well people with 300 posts are either spammers or people who have been here a while.
exactly, and most people don't spam 300+ messages just to mess with your karma ;)
Seems fine to me, but meh.
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Yeah.
@Ozzy: how did you delete your post?
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(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/ozzy_oswalt/forumpost.jpg)
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well thats queer. ozzy you have a delete button down thar, i however do not.
i have quote option, and modify. i am unable to delete my posts. do you need a certain amount of posts to delete your posts..?
>.>
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donors get to hax
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Really? Awesome, I always assumed everyone had it... >.>
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me2
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AFAIK everyone does, but only for the last post in a thread, and a time limit too I think.
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Hmm, it seems to allow me to delete any post I've ever made. =/
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Yeah, you're right.
I'm sure it didn't use to be that...
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AFAIK everyone does, but only for the last post in a thread, and a time limit too I think.
LIEZZZ I can't delete my post no matter what, even directly after posting it.
Regards,
Kiwi
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AFAIK everyone does, but only for the last post in a thread, and a time limit too I think.
LIEZZZ I can't delete my post no matter what, even directly after posting it.
Regards,
Kiwi
You're not a donor.
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AFAIK everyone does, but only for the last post in a thread, and a time limit too I think.
Right, but he said everyone.
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AFAIK everyone does, but only for the last post in a thread, and a time limit too I think.
Right, but he said everyone.
As far as he knows.
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And half that post has already been proven wrong / out of date, so who knows how it's set up now?
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If only the devs read this and answered :(
But I think its only the donners/devs you get it?
Warm Regards,
Kiwi
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There was an issue some months (to a year?) ago; Two posters had an argument, and one deleted his posts. Timbo, I suppose, decided to remove the deleting functionality. There's not too much use for it, but I think that, if it's going to be disabled for some people, it should be on the basis of individual bans after an offense.
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I like the fact that I can now see all 2 of the +'s I have received.
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I like the fact that I can now see all 2 of the +'s I have received.
Seven, and I'd decon you, but I've gotta wait an hour.
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but I've gotta wait an hour
Saved you the trouble.
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but I've gotta wait an hour.
I ran into the same problem :P
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but I've gotta wait an hour
Saved you the trouble.
This is the problem with karma.
What the fuck did I deserve that for?
Nothing.
Get rid of the whole fucking thing. People just decon because it's fun to antagonize things.
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but I've gotta wait an hour
Saved you the trouble.
This is the problem with karma.
What the fuck did I deserve that for?
Nothing.
Get rid of the whole fucking thing. People just decon because it's fun to antagonize things.
http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6100;sa=showPosts (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6100;sa=showPosts)
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Mooseberry saved me the trouble.
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like I said: fun to antagonize things.
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http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6100;sa=showPosts (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6100;sa=showPosts)
Oh wow... I don't usually [build] / [decon], but this case just needs it.
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but I've gotta wait an hour
Saved you the trouble.
This is the problem with karma.
What the fuck did I deserve that for?
Nothing.
Get rid of the whole fucking thing. People just decon because it's fun to antagonize things.
Quit bitching about the karma system. You'll get it eventually.
I'm just glad they removed the total posts from every single post. Now, THAT was something that made people judge each other before looking at the posts. Karma doesn't actually mean anything. Who the hell cares if your turrets are being deconned? I sure as heck don't.
The way the forums go, you're gonna get flamed. You've gotta get used to it. No starting any revolutions, now. Trust me, I tried it, and it didn't work. Just be glad you're not Caffine. :{D
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but I've gotta wait an hour
Saved you the trouble.
This is the problem with karma.
What the fuck did I deserve that for?
Nothing.
Get rid of the whole fucking thing. People just decon because it's fun to antagonize things.
You keep complaining about karma without arguing your point well. All I see is swear words and grief. Most people just ignore karma anyway. The way you complain is what makes me decon you, I'm not sure about everyone else though.
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The way you complain is what makes me decon you, I'm not sure about everyone else though.
Very well. That is exactly the problem with karma on most websites. People see the way the information is presented, rather than what is actually being said. If someone is able to post a thread saying 'I slept with your mother' in an apologetic, calm and friendly format, they get +'s for apologizing, because thats so nice. If someone posts a thread saying 'I slept with your mother' in a way that shows they regret it, because your mother was so hideous, they never should have slept with someone so fat in the first place, people are agnery, and give -'s. It almost always comes down to the way you present it. And the fact that nobody can see you smiling and presenting your words with vocal expressions, changes in facial expressions and sarcasm, it becomes very very difficult to correctly portray what you're saying.
Most of the time, if I said what I typed out loud, people would laugh, or understand my opinion. Instead, in their head, I am being an angry little kid, complaining about everything.
Karma's a bitch, and I think we should get rid of it.
However, it is a great generator for threads such as these.
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Yep, that's what happens, but isn't that what is supposed to happen? Karma is based on presentation, that's the point.
- Kiwi
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The way the forums go, you're gonna get flamed. You've gotta get used to it. No starting any revolutions, now. Trust me, I tried it, and it didn't work. Just be glad you're not Caffine. :{D
Fuck off, Caffeine has a fan club.
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The way the forums go, you're gonna get flamed. You've gotta get used to it. No starting any revolutions, now. Trust me, I tried it, and it didn't work. Just be glad you're not Caffine. :{D
Fuck off, Caffeine has a fan club.
And a hate bandwagon. D:
Only 'cause he's cool.
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The reason you can't build or decon turrets is because you spawned with a rifle. Friendly fire is off for everything. At some point, you will be able to go to the :armoury: and buy a ckit. From what I have read in this thread, the ckit seems to cost 300 credits in the forum, as opposed to being free in 1.1 and 1.2 - you earn one credit for each post you make (spam or not), and you lose one credit each time a post of yours is deleted. You do not get any credits for staying alive, staying logged in, killing aliens, or doing anything other than posting. Once you have 300 credits, you can switch out your rifle for a ckit. Then you can build/decon people's turrets.
Right now I still have the rifle.
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The reason you can't build or decon turrets is because you spawned with a rifle. Friendly fire is off for everything. At some point, you will be able to go to the :armoury: and buy a ckit. From what I have read in this thread, the ckit seems to cost 300 credits in the forum, as opposed to being free in 1.1 and 1.2 - you earn one credit for each post you make (spam or not), and you lose one credit each time a post of yours is deleted. You do not get any credits for staying alive, staying logged in, killing aliens, or doing anything other than posting. Once you have 300 credits, you can switch out your rifle for a ckit. Then you can build/decon people's turrets.
Right now I still have the rifle.
:D
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I like the turrets :]
!allowbuild tskuzzy please
+1
(just padding post count - about 280 to go) :-\
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Sorry for the Necro..
But all of a sudden I can delete my posts. Is this changed for everyone? Or did I hit some post count? (600 posts or something?)
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Ok, sorry for the double post, but I can't delete my posts now :( Maybe it was a fluke and I should have kept my mouth shut..
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I can delete my topics :o
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Yeah, but your a donor :P
Which reminds me that I need to donate some money, but I've been to lazy to get around to it..
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AFAIK anyone can delete their posts if it's the last post in the thread, and maybe also a time limit.
EDIT: I can remove this post, and it may depend on what theme you use. Try with default?
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I can delete any of my posts no matter how old they are or how many people posted afterwords. IIRC, that may be a donor privilege.
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I can delete any of my posts no matter how old they are or how many people posted afterwords. IIRC, that may be a donor privilege.
Seems like it isnt :( I can delete post that are, hmm week/few days old.
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im has tyha good karcarma
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Looks like I'm wrong, I can delete older posts.
Maybe it's a post-count think? AFAIK there aren't any donor bonuses, but maybe I'm wrong.
/me goes to start a flame war and then delete his posts.
(The above is why I always quote people when replying to anything where that could happen. Paranoia ftw!)
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
But you said you can delete some; or did your spelling die?
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
But you said you can delete some; or did your spelling die?
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, with over 3000 posts you can delete other peoples' annoying posts.
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
But you said you can delete some; or did your spelling die?
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, with over 3000 posts you can delete other peoples' annoying posts.
NO. Bad Mooseberry. No Stannumuffins for you.
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
But you said you can delete some; or did your spelling die?
I cant delete old posts, but i can delete old topics that are made by me. Thats silly.
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
But you said you can delete some; or did your spelling die?
I cant delete old posts, but i can delete old topics that are made by made. Thats silly.
You're right. That is silly!
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Definitely not a post count thing as I have 1187 and can't delete posts whereas DraZiLoX has far less and can.
But David and Moose have both over 3000 messages.
But you said you can delete some; or did your spelling die?
I cant delete old posts, but i can delete old topics that are made by me. Thats silly.
You're right. That is silly!
typo >.<
Fixed!
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Call me stupid. Im not seeing a typo.
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Can you maybe only delete your old topics in the clans section? Before I left we were discussing having that forum be self-moderated, which may be the case.
Since it's necro'd anyway: Is it possible for each post to have a +/-, like Youtube? That could detract from most of the drama about who hates who and who cares about karma. Still, a good post would be recognized with lots of +'s. Just seems to me that would be a way to have +/- reflect a post's value, and not who did or didn't kick you in the Nuts...server.
*walks again into the sunset*
Oh, and @Jack, he changed Drazilox's post to fix the typo Celestial Rage highlighted. "made by made" -> "made by me"
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Ah. Yep, thats it! Thanks for shedding some light on this :)
Farewell once again ;)
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I can delete my topics, we're they in Modding, or General ;)
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hai ozay
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Who gives a fuck about forum karma? How about this for forum karma. YOUR FORUMS SUCK!!! They're boring as hell!!! KoR's forums are far more interesting than this bullshit. It's true, KoR has something better than you and you guys laugh and make fun of them. Have a look for yourself and see. SUCKTARDS!!!
http://www.knightsofreason.net/ (http://www.knightsofreason.net/)
EWWWWWWW...BRAINS!!!
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm44/marcdasharc/Fallout32010-08-0819-02-13-17.jpg)
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How very productive of you. I still can't decide whether "SUCKTARDS" is the most creative or lazy insult I've heard in the last few months, though.
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How very productive of you. I still can't decide whether "SUCKTARDS" is the most creative or lazy insult I've heard in the last few months, though.
You probably don't know your ass from a hole in the ground either.
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Tokai why do you post random pictures?
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This is a great way to get new members for your forum. Clearly I'm on the cutting edge of advertising.
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lol
You have been permanently banned from this board.
Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.
Reason given for ban: This post: http://knightsofreason.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=59434#p59434 After I had given a fair warning that any post like this would result in a ban.
A ban has been issued on your IP address.
Sorry, your forums suck. I'm not even sure if I ever posted on your forums either.
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The stupidity here doesn't surprise me at all. I'm not a member of KoR, in fact, I think that most of the KoR members are assholes too. But their forums are more interesting. Go ahead, get angry, it makes me laugh. The devs don't do shit and most of the people in Tremulous are losers who can't play any other games because their computer sucks and the Goodwill wouldn't even take them. You can run this piece of shit game on Windows 95 ROFL!!! Yes -1 on turrets already LMAO!!!
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I'm not a member of KoR, in fact, I think that most of the KoR members are assholes too.
http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=14069.msg203100#msg203100 (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=14069.msg203100#msg203100)
The stupidity here doesn't surprise me at all, either.
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Before I get banned I just have one more thing to say. Tell your mommies that they can SUCK MY MOTHER FUCKING DICK!!! Make sure that you show this picture to them mkay?
(http://www.femail.com.au/img/care_bear.jpg)
Edit by Ingar: better picture
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Your weak attempts at shock usually say "I think I'm hardcore but I'm too much of a pussy for 4chan." This one says "I'm insecure and unendowed. Paging Dr. Freud!"
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Enjoy your ban.
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Enjoy your ban.
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Aww :( I liked him. The best thing is to just completely ignore trolls which is in itself a counter-troll and see how much they rage that no one is responding
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lol
You have been permanently banned from this board.
Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.
Reason given for ban: This post: http://knightsofreason.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=59434#p59434 After I had given a fair warning that any post like this would result in a ban.
A ban has been issued on your IP address.
Sorry, your forums suck. I'm not even sure if I ever posted on your forums either.
lol expired domain
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That was interesting. Seemed to me like HE was the one getting angry and WE were the ones laughing.
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Off topic, Aelita, but I used to love Code Lyoko.
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Just look at me. Karma doesn't mean shit. It's abused, and really doesn't mean anything. Just because I was a newfag before doesn't mean I'm a newfag two years later.
Although it's still quite likely.
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Just look at me. Karma doesn't mean shit. It's abused, and really doesn't mean anything. Just because I was a newfag before doesn't mean I'm a newfag two years later.
Although it's still quite likely.
-1 ;)
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Off topic, Aelita, but I used to love Code Lyoko.
Is your name referencing Arx Fatalis?