Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: OhaiReapd on March 22, 2010, 02:42:58 pm
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering how long you think 1.1 will last, since 1.2 is just around the corner, I'm wondering when I should start preparing 1.2 for my computer. Thanks
~Reapd
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preparing 1.2 for my computer
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It's probably going to be a while before 1.2 is released.
I'd guess some 1.1 servers will hang around for ever, but I'd guess the vast majority of players will move to 1.2, even if playing a 1.1-style mod.
But 1.1 will last as long as someone is willing to run a server.
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The majority of people will move to 1.2 even if they hate the crappy new balance for the new models and features.
So, not long.
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The majority of people will move to 1.2 even if they hate the crappy new balance for the new models and features.
So, not long.
I will play Tremulous 1.1 balance, with 1.2 models. Otherwise, I shall be moving to halo with a better computer. *sigh*.
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preparing 1.2 for my computer
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2. It's obvious that 1.2 will not instantly make people move to the new version. It's also likely to be at least few 1.1 servers (i.e. those "Tremulous 1.1.0" servers). But 1.2 IS the future!
PS. I shall be moving to halo with a better computer. *sigh*.
GL4U :>
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Most likely people will move to 1.2 for the new models if anything 8)
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I have to make binds, that's what I meant, jeeeez.
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As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.
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As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.
When the inevitable 1.1 mod is made, would you make the move to 1.2?
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I will, but only then, Me no likey the 1.2.....
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As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.
It seems a waste of money to have a 1.1 and 1.2 server, and not fair to AA regulars not to just have a 1.1 mod server in 1.2. IMO.
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As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.
It seems a waste of money to have a 1.1 and 1.2 server, and not fair to AA regulars not to just have a 1.1 mod server in 1.2. IMO.
No for two reasons.
1. The 1.2 Server is free and is Hibby's dealing not mine. I only pay for the 1.1 server.
2. Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) are not aware of 1.2 and will never be. They don't go to trem.net, they don't know what gpp is. They wont ever be inclined to come check for a new version. They'll just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago. If there is a 1.2 mod that allows old 1.1 clients to see and connect to the server, I'd consider switching, but outside of that, I wont.
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2. Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.
<33 You're plain way of explaining it. 8)
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Hasn't it occered to anyone that
Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) are not aware of 1.2 and will never be. They don't go to trem.net, they don't know what gpp is. They wont ever be inclined to come check for a new version. They'll just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago. If there is a 1.2 mod that allows old 1.1 clients to see and connect to the server, I'd consider switching, but outside of that, I wont.
99% of players fit that category. Maybe once all the servers start disappearing and the MOTD tells them to upgrade then they will?
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s/motd/package manager/i
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I've played too much of 1.2 to be good at 1.1 anymore :'( I think the features of 1.2 are what decided it 4 me
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2. Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.
<33 You're plain way of explaining it. 8)
Obviously not an AA regular. Pollacks is, and always has been, their tag line.
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Hasn't it occered to anyone thatPollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) are not aware of 1.2 and will never be. They don't go to trem.net, they don't know what gpp is. They wont ever be inclined to come check for a new version. They'll just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago. If there is a 1.2 mod that allows old 1.1 clients to see and connect to the server, I'd consider switching, but outside of that, I wont.
99% of players fit that category. Maybe once all the servers start disappearing and the MOTD tells them to upgrade then they will?
No because I don't want them to upgrade.
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You act like its a good thing to have 99% of your server population being pollacks.....
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You act like its a good thing to have 99% of your server population being pollacks.....
Good or bad is irrelevant. AA has always been the server of and for the pollacks. That will never and has never changed. That is why even though it was ran by the leaders of AA, handed down to the leader of AoD, and now in the hands of the leader of FH. It never will and almost never has held any clan matches. It's a public and solely a public server for those who enjoy kill whoring, ATCS, and/or are just generally un-educated.
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You act like its a good thing to have 99% of your server population being pollacks.....
Good or bad is irrelevant. AA has always been the server of and for the pollacks. That will never and has never changed. That is why even though it was ran by the leaders of AA, handed down to the leader of AoD, and now in the hands of the leader of FH. It never will and almost never has held any clan matches. It's a public and solely a public server for those who enjoy kill whoring, ATCS, and/or are just generally un-educated.
I just want to make it clear, i loathe atcs, and still frequent AA.
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1.1 will die when transferring 1.1 modded servers to 1.2 is as easy as switching out two files, and when the final release is out. Modded servers have more population than many here would admit.
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1.1 will die when transferring 1.1 modded servers to 1.2 is as easy as switching out two files, and when the final release is out. Modded servers have more population than many here would admit.
We have that issue of the pollacks not having 1.2 clients though. They don't read the MOTD either trust me.
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I'm fine with leaving pollacks in 1.1
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1.1 will die when transferring 1.1 modded servers to 1.2 is as easy as switching out two files, and when the final release is out. Modded servers have more population than many here would admit.
X/A/P/X-euro/HvH servers will be around on 1.1 for quite some time. Like silver said, as long as i am employed :P (since im US military, i cant imagine how that would change :P )
I totally agree that a large portion of players that play 1.1 right now are totally clueless backportless people who dont have the technical knowledge to change out a file so that pretty much guarantees the 1.1 crowd will be there indefinetely.
I think if 1.2 develops a big enough playerbase, we might put up a 1.2 mod and host for download the client and really push for people to start playing 1.2. But personally, i dont see 1.2 being a big deal.
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I totally agree that a large portion of players that play 1.1 right now are totally clueless backportless people who dont have the technical knowledge to change out a file so that pretty much guarantees the 1.1 crowd will be there indefinetely.
I wonder how they found the game in the first place. You don't think they might hear about 1.2 through the same channel?
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I wonder how they found the game in the first place. You don't think they might hear about 1.2 through the same channel?
Well, i see your point. And i totally agree that there are a good number of players who are aware of 1.2
I think the main reasons people wont switch to 1.2 are this.
1) Significant portions of the tremulous community dont speak English.
2) A lot of people dont know the forums here exist.
3) When people first hear about this game, they google it or follow some download link someone else posted ages ago on some gaming website. (like how i heard about it back in '05) They download the game, install it, play, then thats it. They dont get involved anywhere, they dont join a community. They just load the game up and play when they feel like it. While there is nothing wrong with that, this people probably wont hear about 1.2 any time soon.
4) Tremulous isn't a single community. There seem to be lots of communities that revolve around the Game itself. Most of the servers have their own forums, admin staff, and some even have their own developers. While trem.net is the "official" forums and people here hold the keys to the master server and whatever else, the communities seem pretty segregated. This means that the 1.2 message isnt going to get out very uniformly. Even though trem.net is preaching the message, i think that unless all the other communities push for 1.2 we arent going to see as many people move as some might like.
5) I think even the trem.net community is divided over 1.2 Though i dont usually look at these forums, there seem to be a group of people that are upset about 1.2 and might not play it just one principle.
6) Finally, i think the very fact that 1.1 is staying will keep people on 1.1 People will go in game, and most of their friends will still be there who they always play with, and they wont really see a reason to switch to 1.2 Sure, the improved models and vanilla gameplay might appeal to people but people will prefer to play with their friends over the new gameplay.
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1.1 will die because of no headshots during human crouch. gg.
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Like David said, there will be 1.1 as long as someone is still willing to keep a server running. It doesn't even depend on there being a master server for it. Because, like Manbearpig@SRM pointed out, there are Trem communities out there who have their own forum and resources and they can always /connect directly to their own server. Or even setup their own master.
So my take is that 1.1 will be around for a loong time.
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The 1.1 master is the same one that will be the 1.2 master. Blocking out 1.1 servers sounds like effort to me, so I doubt it will ever happen.
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I was just wondering how long you think 1.1 will last, since 1.2 is just around the corner...
You make a very dangerous assumption there. You assume that 1.2 will be released. The reality is that 1.2 will never come out, it is stuck in a development cycle that it will never come out of. The dev's know this (except Norf, he's being kept in the dark about it). Therefore the simple answer is, 1.1 will last until technology supercedes it and noone can compile it any more.
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Last I checked everything was done bar the models (which have a very firm finish post) and some balance tweaks, which Norf has said are basically done. I seem to recall him saying he'd be happy to release as-is if everything else was done, so yeah. Hardly endless.
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Well, seeing as Stannum seems to have slowed in his work on any models, it could be years. Or months.
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Possibly even days. D:
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I think 1.1 will die, because there will be no new players - they will download 1.2 by default.
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I totally agree that a large portion of players that play 1.1 right now are totally clueless backportless people who dont have the technical knowledge to change out a file so that pretty much guarantees the 1.1 crowd will be there indefinetely.
I wonder how they found the game in the first place. You don't think they might hear about 1.2 through the same channel?
New players might, but the current *new* players wont. They don't check that channel. You know how many guidless people I see on AA daily? Being without a GUID now is very very unlikely to someone who knows how to read these forums. Especially with how much people love to beg for admin.