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OhaiReapd

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Life Span of 1.1?
« on: March 22, 2010, 02:42:58 pm »
Hey guys,

I was just wondering how long you think 1.1 will last, since 1.2 is just around the corner, I'm wondering when I should start preparing 1.2 for my computer. Thanks

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 03:38:54 pm »

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 04:19:31 pm »
It's probably going to be a while before 1.2 is released.

I'd guess some 1.1 servers will hang around for ever, but I'd guess the vast majority of players will move to 1.2, even if playing a 1.1-style mod.

But 1.1 will last as long as someone is willing to run a server.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 05:42:53 pm »
The majority of people will move to 1.2 even if they hate the crappy new balance for the new models and features.

So, not long.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 08:06:12 pm »
The majority of people will move to 1.2 even if they hate the crappy new balance for the new models and features.

So, not long.
I will play Tremulous 1.1 balance, with 1.2 models. Otherwise, I shall be moving to halo with a better computer. *sigh*.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 09:10:57 pm »
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preparing 1.2 for my computer

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2. It's obvious that 1.2 will not instantly make people move to the new version. It's also likely to be at least few 1.1 servers (i.e. those "Tremulous 1.1.0" servers). But 1.2 IS the future!

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 09:21:03 pm »
Most likely people will move to 1.2 for the new models if anything  8)
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 09:42:06 pm »
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 11:20:03 pm »
As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2010, 12:29:21 am »
As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.

When the inevitable 1.1 mod is made, would you make the move to 1.2?

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2010, 03:27:24 am »
I will, but only then, Me no likey the 1.2.....

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2010, 06:25:19 am »
As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.

It seems a waste of money to have a 1.1 and 1.2 server, and not fair to AA regulars not to just have a 1.1 mod server in 1.2. IMO.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2010, 08:33:27 am »
As long as the master server is up and I'm employed AA shall stay alive and a 1.1 server.

It seems a waste of money to have a 1.1 and 1.2 server, and not fair to AA regulars not to just have a 1.1 mod server in 1.2. IMO.

No for two reasons.

1.  The 1.2 Server is free and is Hibby's dealing not mine.  I only pay for the 1.1 server.
2.  Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) are not aware of 1.2 and will never be.  They don't go to trem.net, they don't know what gpp is.  They wont ever be inclined to come check for a new version.  They'll just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.  If there is a 1.2 mod that allows old 1.1 clients to see and connect to the server, I'd consider switching, but outside of that, I wont.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2010, 02:41:32 pm »
2.  Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 03:49:28 pm »
Hasn't it occered to anyone that
Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) are not aware of 1.2 and will never be.  They don't go to trem.net, they don't know what gpp is.  They wont ever be inclined to come check for a new version.  They'll just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.  If there is a 1.2 mod that allows old 1.1 clients to see and connect to the server, I'd consider switching, but outside of that, I wont.

99% of players fit that category.  Maybe once all the servers start disappearing and the MOTD tells them to upgrade then they will?
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 04:15:33 pm »
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 07:08:40 pm »
I've played too much of 1.2 to be good at 1.1 anymore  :'( I think the features of 1.2 are what decided it 4 me

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2010, 01:07:23 am »
2.  Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2010, 02:24:03 am »
Hasn't it occered to anyone that
Pollacks(the people who play AA most regularly) are not aware of 1.2 and will never be.  They don't go to trem.net, they don't know what gpp is.  They wont ever be inclined to come check for a new version.  They'll just keep playing on the vanilla GUIDless install they did 3 years ago.  If there is a 1.2 mod that allows old 1.1 clients to see and connect to the server, I'd consider switching, but outside of that, I wont.

99% of players fit that category.  Maybe once all the servers start disappearing and the MOTD tells them to upgrade then they will?

No because I don't want them to upgrade.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2010, 02:29:53 am »
You act like its a good thing to have 99% of your server population being pollacks.....
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2010, 02:48:19 am »
You act like its a good thing to have 99% of your server population being pollacks.....
Good or bad is irrelevant.  AA has always been the server of and for the pollacks.  That will never and has never changed.  That is why even though it was ran by the leaders of AA, handed down to the leader of AoD, and now in the hands of the leader of FH.  It never will and almost never has held any clan matches.  It's a public and solely a public server for those who enjoy kill whoring, ATCS, and/or are just generally un-educated.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2010, 03:03:48 pm »
You act like its a good thing to have 99% of your server population being pollacks.....
Good or bad is irrelevant.  AA has always been the server of and for the pollacks.  That will never and has never changed.  That is why even though it was ran by the leaders of AA, handed down to the leader of AoD, and now in the hands of the leader of FH.  It never will and almost never has held any clan matches.  It's a public and solely a public server for those who enjoy kill whoring, ATCS, and/or are just generally un-educated.

I just want to make it clear, i loathe atcs, and still frequent AA.


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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2010, 08:25:45 pm »
1.1 will die when transferring 1.1 modded servers to 1.2 is as easy as switching out two files, and when the final release is out.  Modded servers have more population than many here would admit.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2010, 11:44:30 pm »
1.1 will die when transferring 1.1 modded servers to 1.2 is as easy as switching out two files, and when the final release is out.  Modded servers have more population than many here would admit.

We have that issue of the pollacks not having 1.2 clients though.  They don't read the MOTD either trust me.
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 08:38:31 am »
I'm fine with leaving pollacks in 1.1
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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2010, 06:55:16 am »
1.1 will die when transferring 1.1 modded servers to 1.2 is as easy as switching out two files, and when the final release is out.  Modded servers have more population than many here would admit.

X/A/P/X-euro/HvH servers will be around on 1.1 for quite some time.  Like silver said, as long as i am employed :P (since im US military, i cant imagine how that would change :P

I totally agree that a large portion of players that play 1.1 right now are totally clueless backportless people who dont have the technical knowledge to change out a file so that pretty much guarantees the 1.1 crowd will be there indefinetely.

I think if 1.2 develops a big enough playerbase, we might put up a 1.2 mod and host for download the client and really push for people to start playing 1.2.   But personally, i dont see 1.2 being a big deal.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2010, 08:51:13 pm »
I totally agree that a large portion of players that play 1.1 right now are totally clueless backportless people who dont have the technical knowledge to change out a file so that pretty much guarantees the 1.1 crowd will be there indefinetely.
I wonder how they found the game in the first place. You don't think they might hear about 1.2 through the same channel?

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2010, 12:02:31 am »
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I wonder how they found the game in the first place. You don't think they might hear about 1.2 through the same channel?

Well, i see your point.  And i totally agree that there are a good number of players who are aware of 1.2 

I think the main reasons people wont switch to 1.2 are this.


1)  Significant portions of the tremulous community dont speak English.

2)  A lot of people dont know the forums here exist. 

3)  When people first hear about this game, they google it or follow some download link someone else posted ages ago on some gaming website. (like how i heard about it back in '05)  They download the game, install it, play, then thats it.  They dont get involved anywhere, they dont join a community.  They just load the game up and play when they feel like it.  While there is nothing wrong with that, this people probably wont hear about 1.2 any time soon. 

4)  Tremulous isn't a single community.  There seem to be lots of communities that revolve around the Game itself.  Most of the servers have their own forums, admin staff, and some even have their own developers.  While trem.net is the "official" forums and people here hold the keys to the master server and whatever else, the communities seem pretty segregated.  This means that the 1.2 message isnt going to get out very uniformly.  Even though trem.net is preaching the message, i think that unless all the other communities push for 1.2 we arent going to see as many people move as some might like.

5)  I think even the trem.net community is divided over 1.2   Though i dont usually look at these forums, there seem to be a group of people that are upset about 1.2 and might not play it just one principle.

6)  Finally, i think the very fact that 1.1 is staying will keep people on 1.1   People will go in game, and most of their friends will still be there who they always play with, and they wont really see a reason to switch to 1.2  Sure, the improved models and vanilla gameplay might appeal to people but people will prefer to play with their friends over the new gameplay.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2010, 09:52:42 pm »
1.1 will die because of no headshots during human crouch. gg.

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Re: Life Span of 1.1?
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2010, 10:47:04 pm »
Like David said, there will be 1.1 as long as someone is still willing to keep a server running. It doesn't even depend on there being a master server for it. Because, like Manbearpig@SRM pointed out, there are Trem communities out there who have their own forum and resources and they can always /connect directly to their own server. Or even setup their own master.

So my take is that 1.1 will be around for a loong time.
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