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Media => Other Tremulous Media => Topic started by: Fox One on May 14, 2012, 02:30:32 am

Title: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Fox One on May 14, 2012, 02:30:32 am
So, this seems to be the most relevant place for this, and it doesn't appear that it's been done before...

Haven't you always wanted your very own granger to keep in your pocket? Now you can get one, for less than $10! Buy a granger action figure right here! (http://www.shapeways.com/model/570045/playset-granger.html) For every model that sells I will donate $1 to Tremulous.

Please Note: I don't claim ownership of the original Tremulous models, of course! All I've done is strip the keyframes out and make the mesh manifold so it can be printed. The edited model file is also available for download at the link above, if any of you happen to have your own 3D printers and want to try it.

Shapeways offers a lot of different print materials to choose from, and I think I may order myself a little steel granger. As soon as I have one to show I'll add pictures for you all.

3D printing services open up the possibility of making all kinds of neat things, and I've actually been thinking about Tremulous toys for awhile now. If there's interest in this, I'm considering continuing the idea with:
> adding textures for full-color sandstone printing
> adding hollow space inside the models to reduce material use & printing cost
> adding details to the models from the texture/smoothing the models
> creating full playsets for aliens and humans (all the buildables, various weapons/equipment/poses for humans)
> creating fully posable Tremulous action figures, with removable/interchangeable gear for humans

Let me know if you all have other ideas you'd like to see implemented, or if you know of another 3D printing service that offers lower printing costs, or even if you just think this is a bad idea.

If the Tremulous team prefers that I take this down, I will of course do so at their request.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Qrntz on May 14, 2012, 12:30:23 pm
Fix the link, please.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Fox One on May 14, 2012, 08:22:53 pm
Gah, embarrassing. Unborked.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Chomps123 on May 16, 2012, 07:04:22 pm
Make it a squeeky toy so my dog can play with it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: 42 on May 17, 2012, 12:26:20 am
Make it a squeeky toy so my dog can play with it.

^^ This
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Fox One on May 17, 2012, 02:31:25 am
Mmm... Shapeways doesn't offer a flexible material like silicon rubber, only slightly flexible plastics and rigid things like glass and metal.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Chomps123 on May 17, 2012, 01:24:03 pm
darn
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: ULTRA Random ViruS on May 20, 2012, 02:45:36 pm
Cool. Wish you displayed an actual picture of the finished product. If there is. :granger:
*friend comes to sleep over*
"WTF IS THAT?"
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: ironclaw on May 29, 2012, 02:48:12 pm
Mmm... Shapeways doesn't offer a flexible material like silicon rubber, only slightly flexible plastics and rigid things like glass and metal.

As it happens, Shapeways started a trial for black elasto plastic (http://www.shapeways.com/blog/archives/1375-Introducing-3D-Printed-Black-Elasto-Plastic-I-Cant-Believe-Its-Not-Rubber.html) the very day you made this comment.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: 42 on May 29, 2012, 10:17:42 pm
Bouncy Granger!
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Fox One on June 01, 2012, 03:59:32 am
Mmm... Shapeways doesn't offer a flexible material like silicon rubber, only slightly flexible plastics and rigid things like glass and metal.

As it happens, Shapeways started a trial for black elasto plastic (http://www.shapeways.com/blog/archives/1375-Introducing-3D-Printed-Black-Elasto-Plastic-I-Cant-Believe-Its-Not-Rubber.html) the very day you made this comment.
Just saw that... redesigning the granger as a squeeky toy sounds like an interesting project, I'll give it a go. I have no idea if this material would be safe for your dog to have in his mouth though... they say that all of their materials aren't safe for food use, though I can't see how glass or ceramic could be dangerous if it's been washed.

I just ordered a black plastic version, just to see how it comes out, so I'll put up pics of that as soon as I get it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: commander scrooge on June 01, 2012, 04:24:47 pm
How big are they?  Would it be possible to put it on a key chain?
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Ingar on June 01, 2012, 04:59:51 pm
If the Tremulous team prefers that I take this down, I will of course do so at their request.

I might get two, one granger is a lonely granger, but two grangers is party time!

How big are they?  Would it be possible to put it on a key chain?

cm: 3.1 w x 2.32 d x 1.82 h
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: 42 on June 01, 2012, 10:23:09 pm
Mmm... Shapeways doesn't offer a flexible material like silicon rubber, only slightly flexible plastics and rigid things like glass and metal.

As it happens, Shapeways started a trial for black elasto plastic (http://www.shapeways.com/blog/archives/1375-Introducing-3D-Printed-Black-Elasto-Plastic-I-Cant-Believe-Its-Not-Rubber.html) the very day you made this comment.
Just saw that... redesigning the granger as a squeeky toy sounds like an interesting project, I'll give it a go. I have no idea if this material would be safe for your dog to have in his mouth though... they say that all of their materials aren't safe for food use, though I can't see how glass or ceramic could be dangerous if it's been washed.

That's just their protection from a lawsuit from someone choking on something they made, or another incident along those lines. 
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: ULTRA Random ViruS on June 04, 2012, 12:13:21 pm
How big are they?  Would it be possible to put it on a key chain?

cm: 3.1 w x 2.32 d x 1.82 h
Thats tiny.... When i first saw this topic i thought 'real life dimensions', and lets say 80 units = 2m so granger (1.1) would be like 1 or 1.5 meters wide, long and high... woah.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Fox One on August 09, 2012, 04:28:36 am
Sorry to keep you folks waiting, here is a look at the cheap version of the granger model that I finally got. Click for larger images:
(http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_scale_thumb.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_scale.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_attack_thumb.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_attack.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_pet_thumb.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_pet.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_closeup_thumb.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_closeup.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_views_thumb.png) (http://www.recursive-loop.com/files/images/granger_views.png)

It's about the size of a quarter, made from the "Black Strong & Flexible" material on Shapeways, so the surface texture is a bit rough. Pocket-size for your convenience.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: CreatureofHell on August 09, 2012, 01:39:37 pm
 :o
That is just amazing.
I want one.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Nux on August 09, 2012, 07:49:04 pm
Haven't you always wanted your very own granger to keep in your pocket? Now you can get one, for less than $10! Buy a granger action figure right here! (http://www.shapeways.com/model/570045/playset-granger.html) For every model that sells I will donate $1 to Tremulous.

Anybody who wants a granger model can upload the model themselves, in any size they want and with any alterations they want, at a lower price because of not having to also pay Fox One. They can then use all the money they saved to donate to Tremulous if they so desire.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on August 09, 2012, 08:13:55 pm
donate to Tremulous
you mean: donate to me, right? otherwise: you've gotta be kidding me.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Fox One on August 10, 2012, 01:10:40 am
Anybody who wants a granger model can upload the model themselves, in any size they want and with any alterations they want, at a lower price because of not having to also pay Fox One. They can then use all the money they saved to donate to Tremulous if they so desire.

Certainly, I made my edited version of the model downloadable on the item page for this very reason (link for the lazy (http://www.shapeways.com/model/download/570045)). If any of you happen to have a 3D printer at home you could print your own from that file as well. If you want to set up your own account with Shapeways, then upload the model and get it that way, then by all means do so (you'll save $3).

Please Note: Don't try to print the original game model, use my edited version or do your own fixes. The original model is game-engine optimized, so it's non-manifold (http://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/fixing-non-manifold-models) and won't print properly.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Nux on August 10, 2012, 02:57:06 am
Please Note: Don't try to print the original game model, use my edited version or do your own fixes. The original model is game-engine optimized, so it's non-manifold (http://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/fixing-non-manifold-models) and won't print properly.

I converted the original granger directly into .obj and uploaded him (http://www.shapeways.com/model/660880/tremulous-granger.html) without any errors.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: your face on August 10, 2012, 09:08:03 pm
him or her ???
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on August 11, 2012, 07:58:53 am
I converted the original granger directly into .obj and uploaded him (http://www.shapeways.com/model/660880/tremulous-granger.html) without any errors.
him or her ???
it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: your face on August 13, 2012, 05:15:26 am
8)
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: vcxzet on August 18, 2012, 12:03:00 am
not impressed
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: ULTRA Random ViruS on August 23, 2012, 11:32:59 am
Funny, either the site's glitching or the shipping costs > cost to produce
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: vcxzet on August 23, 2012, 11:57:45 pm
Funny, either the site's glitching or the shipping costs > cost to produce
move to us
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: Nux on August 24, 2012, 05:18:19 pm
Funny, either the site's glitching or the shipping costs > cost to produce

By my rough calculations, he's added a markup of 5 dollars on top of the price shapeways sells it for (at least with the cheapest materials) and bear in mind they'll have a markup of their own and that what you're usually paying for in such businesses is the use of their machines not the cost to them of using them. So the shipping costs are indeed greater than the cost to produce because the cost to produce is tiny.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on August 25, 2012, 07:09:03 am


By my rough calculations, he's added a markup of 5 dollars on top of the price shapeways sells it for (at least with the cheapest materials) and bear in mind they'll have a markup of their own and that what you're usually paying for in such businesses is the use of their machines not the cost to them of using them. So the shipping costs are indeed greater than the cost to produce because the cost to produce is tiny.

in addition, international shipping is expensive.
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: ULTRA Random ViruS on August 25, 2012, 07:22:24 am
Funny, either the site's glitching or the shipping costs > cost to produce
move to us
us is puluted. Where i live, i can see about 30-50+km before i start to notice the water vapour/air pollution.
When i went to chicago... sheesh thats like only 10 km...
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: your face on August 29, 2012, 06:02:13 pm
When i went to chicago
chicago sucks
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on August 30, 2012, 12:19:36 am
Funny, either the site's glitching or the shipping costs > cost to produce
move to us
us is puluted. Where i live, i can see about 30-50+km before i start to notice the water vapour/air pollution.
When i went to chicago... sheesh thats like only 10 km...
you live relatively near one of the largest deserts on earth.  likely on the seaward side of a continental divide.

chicago is in the temperate interior of the north american continent, where warm, moist, air from the carribian mixes with cool, dry, air from the arctic.  this produces a lot of condensing moisture, aka: clouds and fog.


in addition, chicago sucks.

where i live, also on the seaward side of a continental divide, i can see for a great many miles.  near the arid deserts of the west coast, visibility is even greater.  ask someone who lives in arizona or new mexico to what distance the rocky mountains are visible.

Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: your face on September 07, 2012, 06:23:39 pm
in addition, chicago sucks.
HI CHICAGO nice to met you my name is your face
and yes i agree
Title: Re: Tremulous Toys
Post by: vcxzet on September 08, 2012, 05:12:43 pm
in arizona or new mexico
how does it feel to live in Dune?