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Title: Who is the best player?
Post by: Tsus on November 28, 2007, 12:49:24 pm
I'm interested in knowing who the best player is...

If u want to post ur meanings,write the name down and explain why the person u wrote the best player is!
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Superpie on November 28, 2007, 12:55:12 pm
There is no best single player, and it's by no means measurable how good or skilled someone really is. This is either a dead-end topic or bound to be a flamewar.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Tsus on November 28, 2007, 01:50:07 pm
I just want their meanings...but if u want i remove this topic in 2 days.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Caveman on November 28, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
The _meaning_ is that you just did not get the point of a TEAM-game, yet.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Taiyo.uk on November 28, 2007, 05:33:31 pm
I am the best player.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on November 28, 2007, 06:38:27 pm
No, quite clearly I am the best player.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 28, 2007, 06:42:48 pm
I would vote megaman, though i haven't played with/against players like 'orc' or whatever he was called :P.

Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Computer[SU] on November 28, 2007, 06:56:57 pm
I don't know the Euro scene well enough, but St. Anger, Yahoo, and Lestrange are a cut above the rest in the States IMO. There are maybe 20 or so players that are right on their asses. It's hard to say because it is rare that you match up with someone in a fair 1v1 enough to declare a victor. Like everyone has said, Trem is a team game so declaring a best player is more difficult.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: epsy on November 28, 2007, 06:59:30 pm
no, my cat is.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: HamStar on November 28, 2007, 07:03:51 pm
I'd be the best, but I'm still stuck in my cage :( Free me Taiyo!
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Dracone on November 28, 2007, 07:46:00 pm
When BodyOrgan is around, he's the most individually skilled player in my opinion. However, that's just overall. Many people are better in other ways, but I feel he has the highest level of well-rounded skill. Still, it is a team game, yet he is often great in that way too.

However, considering that he isn't highly active (actually, he has been playing more often, but still lightly as he's busy), unlike others I might nominate, I would have to agree with comp for the others. St. Anger, LeStrange, and Yahoo are always a step above others, although they are all quite different in playing styles.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: maxell on November 29, 2007, 10:56:00 am
u r all noobs i am the best.... but i think that ice or gumbie is better dunno never vs them
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: NiTRoX on December 01, 2007, 07:00:04 pm
wtf everybody forgot about me
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: maxell on December 02, 2007, 04:04:06 am
who gives a S*** about u ? i wonder but this isn't thew topic so just ignore that ( also i ignore ur self) because "if u can't beat them, join them " LOL !
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: NiTRoX on December 02, 2007, 07:42:09 am
who gives a S*** about u ? i wonder but this isn't thew topic so just ignore that ( also i ignore ur self) because "if u can't beat them, join them " LOL !

Does the even make sense? :S
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Ezra on December 02, 2007, 11:16:32 am
Well, i heard many ppl said "Tremulous is a Team-Game so the game haven't ONE best player.

Sorry, guys, i'm disagree.

Many players can carry the game, alone. In cw too.

But it's not the way of the topic so, i will speak about the EU scene and the "skill".

I can quote many many players :

.Eye, IJsje, CitRoX, Puma, Nux, MayheM, Flocke, Mercury, Sakrah, Infinity, Lesbroot, (he doesn't cheat imho).

Generally players from [F]lame, (CY) and [HUN] clans.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Nux on December 02, 2007, 10:46:57 pm
Thank you Ezra <3 and I agree with you.

It's a shame .Eye and many [F]lames don't play nowadays =(
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Tycho on December 02, 2007, 11:22:37 pm
Well, i heard many ppl said "Tremulous is a Team-Game so the game haven't ONE best player.

Sorry, guys, i'm disagree.

Many players can carry the game, alone. In cw too.

But it's not the way of the topic so, i will speak about the EU scene and the "skill".

I can quote many many players :

.Eye, IJsje, CitRoX, Puma, Nux, MayheM, Flocke, Mercury, Sakrah, Infinity, Lesbroot, (he doesn't cheat imho).

Generally players from [F]lame, (CY) and [HUN] clans.

QFT
-that is a neat post there... would give +1 for that, but I can't :-\
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: KnightofNi on December 03, 2007, 04:56:28 pm
So many aimbots used now it's hard to tell who's the best ;) .
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: beerbitch on December 03, 2007, 08:50:22 pm
I nominate me....

Oh wait, I meant the other Beer.   :P

My brother BeerBastard is pretty good, IMO.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Tycho on December 03, 2007, 10:55:17 pm
So many aimbots used now it's hard to tell who's the best ;) .


best are those whose gameplay got copied to make the best aimbot ;D obviously a joke (in b4 a naab starts flameing)
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Shadow-Majestic on December 03, 2007, 11:04:07 pm
your a good player when you get votekicked for aimbot claims ;D (i get them on average once a week so woohoo  :angel:)
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on December 04, 2007, 02:35:07 am

me agreedz with Ezra's list more/less.

hmmm...
there is such a gap between the high-standard players he mentioned and medskill players like... me ^^
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Dracone on December 04, 2007, 03:43:28 am
your a good player when you get votekicked for aimbot claims ;D (i get them on average once a week so woohoo  :angel:)

There are players out there who get accused multiple times every day they hang out around unexperienced player bases. One person informed me they got votekicked six times in one day. I get accused very often as well.

But this is not what really makes you a good player. Sorry. There's a point where, from then on, you will get accused constantly, because new players don't see the difference between those people they think are botting who are just good and those people they think are botting who are absolutely amazing players. They never make that connection.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: BeerBastard on December 04, 2007, 06:36:56 am
I for one don't like super big servers over 20 players usually.  It turns into nothing but Kill whoring.  There are plenty of players that are good that don't get top kills. Good in my mind means you contribute to the team. Killing their eggs, Organizing a rush, Killing om.

I also agree with dracone about the hack accusations. While it is fun to be accused when you aren't. Alot of good players don't get accused because people know them.  Thats why if you put on an alias and start owning, your more likely to get accused.
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Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: MDRIVER on December 04, 2007, 03:35:03 pm
I dont think killwhoring counts as a measure of skill.....
It should be more of, damm what the hell am I talking about....'
I wouldn't know.
However, I nominate people like Iabz, St Anger, Lestrange (He pwned me and Yarou), and BodyOrgan like Drac mentioned. I also nominate and computer aimbotter program that runs by itself and can hit about anything. ;D
And someone called qwerty but I am more than sure that was a fake name......
 
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Ezra on December 04, 2007, 06:15:25 pm

me agreedz with Ezra's list more/less.

hmmm...
there is such a gap between the high-standard players he mentioned and medskill players like... me ^^


Oh you know, i dont play Trem since 2 months so i can be wrong for now ;D
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Tremulant on December 04, 2007, 11:44:45 pm
There are some extremely adept players out there who are absolutely no fun to play with because they don't take the time to communicate with the team, instead choosing to simply killwhore.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Logan5 on December 06, 2007, 05:00:56 am
St. Anger, LeStrange, and Yahoo are all great players, but I don't know if you could call them the best. BodyOrgan is very adept at killing things and lucy jumping, but still, not the best. I don't even know who any of the players ezra listed are. If there is such a thing as best trem player, I don't think we'll ever really know who it is or was.

tl;dr answer - Orc
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: MDRIVER on December 06, 2007, 05:45:24 am
I dont know, the best players out there are simply the best players out there. And trust me, when people can take down three chainsuits with a goon, that has to be impressive. Or the chainsuits are noobs. Either way, I guess you can be right but stop being so phillosophical with this approach. Just say who you think is good and move on. Oh, I also nominate Thanatos, damm good....
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Ezra on December 06, 2007, 12:02:59 pm
I don't even know who any of the players ezra listed are.

Europeans Players.

Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on December 06, 2007, 01:06:33 pm
I don't even know who any of the players ezra listed are.

Europeans Players.



hmm we europeans should spectate some non-eu games :-)
game is so different with unlagged and this Hp-telling extra, different maps and so on.
probably we would find impressive players out there also, but we would say it's only because ungagged is on ^^
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: [A] on December 06, 2007, 01:45:09 pm
I m more less agree with what you said Ezra. maybe i should own all the ffa game i wanted in the past but in cw if i was giving the impression to carry the game it was only because i was leading. As you said “personal heavy skill” can own many “less good personal skill” but a “personal heavy skill” alone cant face a real teamplay with some skill to apply it. And my job was there when i was leading CY and giving them a fucking teamplay. Some people seen me like a simple heavy fragger but what i did was very more difficult than just aim and shoot, i was in real time coordinating 4 others persons to use their ability on the maximum. Some people said :

 “CY's strategy : .Eye alone in corridor and he can kill 4 goon, 3 maras and 8 dretch to become s2 and end the game”  ...

Ok, so why cy is still winning all the cw if i m not playing anymore ?

I could carry a game alone vs weak clans who was disorganised and few skilled, like ffa. But when a clan was quite skilled or organised, my team was my power. Even if i had more kills is just because i m a fucking frag stealer. ;)



Personal skill is important, teamplay too, teamplay without skill is a joke, heavy skill alone is a joke too, teamplay with average (&more) skill rox !

In your list, you wrote many “impact players” the kind of player who can change the way of a cw by an “impressive” action. I should write the same list (except me because i can't judge myself). Edit : i dident pay atention, ofc you shall appear too in the list ezra

.Eye
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: CitRoX on December 07, 2007, 03:40:59 pm
Bla bla bla all euros know that u r da ownz0r powzn0r  <3
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: NiTRoX on December 07, 2007, 08:59:36 pm
Why are you even bothering ? I am the best player, there is no argument.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: CitRoX on December 07, 2007, 09:39:49 pm
God damnit its not even funny anymore...
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: NiTRoX on December 08, 2007, 01:53:52 pm
I'm not trying ot make you laugh, I'm being serious..
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Nux on December 08, 2007, 02:41:06 pm
I'm not trying ot make you laugh, I'm being serious..

Now you're making me laugh. :P

For me personally, the best players are the ones that make the game more fun for ME. This can be because they're clever and good teammates:
..because they're so damn good they make great opponents:
..or maybe just because they're friendly and interesting people:
(Note: This is by no means a complete list. These people just came to mind as good examples but alot of them could fit in all categories.)
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on December 08, 2007, 02:53:14 pm
And I think blaster is overpowered ^^
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Nux on December 08, 2007, 04:02:04 pm
And I think blaster is overpowered ^^

You're Mistake?! I guess that makes sense :P

Oh >.> [/off-topic]
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Ezra on December 08, 2007, 09:36:48 pm
Blaster rox, ask CitRoX, i played on an American servers and i blasted a goon with 200 of ping  ;D
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: cairenn on December 08, 2007, 09:37:21 pm
..or maybe just because they're friendly and interesting people:
  • Cairenn

this isn't an excuse for the missing picture :P
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Nux on December 08, 2007, 10:17:45 pm
this isn't an excuse for the missing picture :P

This is true. The ACTUAL excuse is that I can't find that damn website. x(
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: CitRoX on December 10, 2007, 11:33:30 am
Blaster rox, ask CitRoX, i played on an American servers and i blasted a goon with 200 of ping  ;D

Hmm sry cant remember that ;p
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Tycho on December 10, 2007, 01:38:16 pm
If we take this seriously than I'd mention a few of my favourite players in a manner similar to Nuxy's:

My favourite players to play in the same team:
-Harlequin <3 (he is the perfect support, never in the way, always helping, really good skill even if he'd say he sucks, also he does a buttload of work during a CW to keep the clan in line - if anyone asks me who I look up to the most among trem players it's him. For me he is the best, even if he is not the best in raw pwning)
-d0t (he rly is a great support for the team also great fun to play with)

to play against:
-CitRoX (if there is a duel which you can learn the most from, it's against him! also I love his  :marauder: )
-Mayhem (his shotgun is lethal. :o I'm soo happy if in a duel I can luckily outchomp it ;D )

to generally play with:
-[HUN] ofc
-Nux, Flynn - my favourite [F]lames
-Eeeew
-Gnud
and Cairenn - my favourite clucktastic <(*) -s
-Xonya, Oley and Krai from Waterguns from a looooong time ago.
-Hamstar
and a few more ppl I can't remember atm

(yes this is a list of players that I love to play with, this is by no means complete nor objective regarding their skill level :angel:)
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: firebladez212 on December 10, 2007, 11:48:35 pm
well, the best singe player is impossible to answer, because people change, 2 of the strongest people in a game, 1 day this guy wins, next hour this guy wins, next week he wins again, next day he wins, its all a test, and u cant complete a test, that isnt a test?
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: Nux on December 11, 2007, 12:05:17 am
...its all a test, and u cant complete a test, that isnt a test?

You can't argue with that kind of logic.
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: firebladez212 on December 11, 2007, 12:57:59 am
...its all a test, and u cant complete a test, that isnt a test?

You can't argue with that kind of logic.


lol that part was a joke
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: blood2.0 on December 11, 2007, 01:14:02 am
no, my cat is.
agreed HE OWNS!!!!!
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: ChexGuy331 on December 12, 2007, 09:41:08 pm
There is no single BEST player. But, I haven't played long enough to decide.

However, the most nooby admin is GreenDay. He spams turrets, and when I deconstructed one to build a telenode, he called us all noobs. He deconstructs my telenode and builds more turrets He then goes into a state where assholes become even more asshole-y. I yell at him, which is normal for me. So, he kicks me with the message "STFU NOOB," and I just sit back, laughing my ass off at how much of a 2-year old he is. Reminds me of this bitchy girl at school who thinks that morn is a more polite way of saying "ass."
Title: Re: Who is the best player?
Post by: AKAnotu on December 14, 2007, 11:07:04 pm
I don't know European players, but for americans, a few come to mind. The most notable of which is probably:
BodyOrgan
Yahoo comes to mind as well
Lestrange
and Doogie's gotten crazy good as a mara.....pweent