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Title: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: zybork on December 11, 2007, 02:03:20 am
It really happened. I was too stunned to make a screenshot. It was on ATCS. I don't remember the server. SOMEONE REALLY USED A PAINSAW WITH A JETPACK! I still cannot believe it.

Why would anyone even THINK of that combination? What's the purpose of all this? He even kept it up for a few minutes, then he obviously figured that this was of no use and changed equipment, but no matter what, it did happen.

Sometimes I really don't know whether I should laugh or cry.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Eli on December 11, 2007, 02:27:44 am
I'll have you know that many a time i've seen 1337 players rape bases with that combo.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Annihilation on December 11, 2007, 03:16:10 am
I'll have you know that many a time i've seen 1337 players rape bases with that combo.
but he was meaning he was floating outside with it at the top of the map.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: kozak6 on December 11, 2007, 04:43:20 am
I've tried it a couple times.

I thought it might be interesting to see if I could attack n00b tyrants from above or attack them from behind.

I don't remember it working too well.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Death On Ice on December 11, 2007, 04:49:00 am
I've done it multiple times, while pretending to be jettarding, just so I could attack the enemy base. It works surprisingly well. Well enough that my Painsaw bind buys Jetpack, Grenade as well as Painsaw. This is mostly for maps other than ATCS, though, such as Niveus, Nexus6 and Karith, in which there are numerous scenarios for which a jetpack can come in handy.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Taiyo.uk on December 11, 2007, 05:09:08 am
Sometimes.... There are eggs on the ceiling.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: your face on December 11, 2007, 05:11:44 am
lets just hope there aren't any acid tubes too....
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Geni3 on December 11, 2007, 05:13:49 am
i love the shotgun + batt pack combo, it rocks
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Knowitall66 on December 11, 2007, 11:35:08 am
i love the shotgun + batt pack combo, it rocks
Indeed it does :P
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Samurai.mac on December 11, 2007, 02:33:06 pm
"I may be out of ammo, but I can still beat you to death with this heavy battery!"
 :human: :battpack: ----->  :tyrant: *BANG*

The Jetpack is very useful with a Painsaw on Arachnid, where it lets you get up to the pipes quickly, and into the area above the default alien base.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Bunneh on December 11, 2007, 09:38:47 pm
Jetsaws are 1337, if you know how to use them right.

They're especially useful for getting to the default alien egg location in Nexus6 before S3 lucijumps become possible, plus those eggs in the ledge outside Karith's elevator room are very, very hard to shoot without a luci splash or jetpack anyways.

If aliens move to the mesh above their default location in Arachnid, jetsaws are about the only way to go without, as previously mentioned, using lucijumps.

So, a painsaw and jetpack combination isn't necessarily noob-like; you can really diminish the alien ego when you're up sawing their ceiling eggs without hassle.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Death On Ice on December 12, 2007, 05:31:39 am
Advice - Never play against Khalsa if he has more than 100 credits.

For those with weak minds: Painsaw costs 100 creds.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Lava Croft on December 12, 2007, 08:00:45 am
Jetpack + Painsaw is just about the only decent remedy against eggspamming Grangers.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Bunneh on December 12, 2007, 11:54:58 pm
Jetpack + Painsaw is just about the only decent remedy against eggspamming Grangers.

QFT.

Unless you've got a laspack or pulsepack. Then they're easy pickings.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: your face on December 13, 2007, 12:27:40 am
Advice - Never play against Khalsa if he has more than 100 credits.

For those with weak minds: Painsaw costs 100 creds.

is khalsa suppose to be good?  the only time i remember him is when i pwned him bad on atcs...  :P
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Lava Croft on December 13, 2007, 04:53:02 am
Jetpack + Painsaw is just about the only decent remedy against eggspamming Grangers.

QFT.

Unless you've got a laspack or pulsepack. Then they're easy pickings.
Those weapons come with way too little ammo ever since the Lasgun ammo got nerfed.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Death On Ice on December 14, 2007, 03:53:36 am
He's amazing with a Painsaw.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: jr2 on December 14, 2007, 07:20:07 am
Jetpack + Painsaw is just about the only decent remedy against eggspamming Grangers.

QFT.

Unless you've got a laspack or pulsepack. Then they're easy pickings.
Those weapons come with way too little ammo ever since the Lasgun ammo got nerfed.

It's 200 now, 300 with batt pack.  What did it used to be?
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Tycho on December 14, 2007, 07:41:17 am
Jetpack + Painsaw is just about the only decent remedy against eggspamming Grangers.

QFT.

Unless you've got a laspack or pulsepack. Then they're easy pickings.
Those weapons come with way too little ammo ever since the Lasgun ammo got nerfed.

It's 200 now, 300 with batt pack.  What did it used to be?

I don't know, but it takes 200 lasgunshots almost to take down the OM... I don't think you're going to get a lot of eggs with it. Though I'd stick to the MD for grangerhunt. Take down grangers -> noone left to spam eggs.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Lava Croft on December 14, 2007, 12:25:05 pm
I think it was 900, but it could also have been 600.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Death On Ice on December 14, 2007, 03:40:50 pm
Not a Joke: You have to be l33t to use Jetpack + Painsaw

'Nuff Said
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Rocinante on December 14, 2007, 04:06:57 pm
I don't know, but it takes 200 lasgunshots almost to take down the OM... I don't think you're going to get a lot of eggs with it. Though I'd stick to the MD for grangerhunt. Take down grangers -> noone left to spam eggs.

Lasgun is weaker than the blaster?  Only because I know it takes 84 shots from a blaster to take down a full OM.

I'd love to say I know this because I read the source and did the math, but unfortunately that's not the case :P

EDIT: From SVN 966:
Code: [Select]
#define HUMAN_WDMG_MODIFIER         1.0f
#define HDM(d)                      ((int)((float)d*HUMAN_WDMG_MODIFIER))
...
#define BLASTER_DMG                 HDM(9)
...
#define LASGUN_DAMAGE               HDM(9)

So lasgun and blaster are equal damage, lasgun is just much faster.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: epsy on December 14, 2007, 07:06:07 pm
lasgun is just much faster.
lasgun is hitscan
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Kaleo on December 15, 2007, 12:36:47 am
Chaingun + Tardpack = ub4r 1`337n355!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1!411112!11ONE!!!1!!1!ONEHUNDREDANDELEVEN!!!1!
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: jr2 on December 15, 2007, 09:53:23 am
Chaingun + Tardpack = ub4r 1`337n355!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1!411112!11ONE!!!1!!1!ONEHUNDREDANDELEVEN!!!1!

QFT... LasGun is also quite a good weapon for the jpack... pulse rifle can be, but the shots are so retardedly slow....
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Bunneh on December 15, 2007, 12:55:39 pm
Yes. Pulserifles are obscenely slow projectiles.

Also, word has it that pulserifle shots are less damaging than a blaster round. I haven't checked the source, but I'll look at it to see if it's true.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Rocinante on December 15, 2007, 06:45:21 pm
Code: [Select]
#define PRIFLE_DMG                  HDM(9)
Same damage as blaster & lasgun it seems.
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: zybork on December 16, 2007, 06:36:09 pm
Not a Joke: You have to be l33t to use Jetpack + Painsaw

'Nuff Said

We'll, I think, the guy who used it in ATCS (it is the only time I ever witnessed this) was definetely not 1337 and it did definetely not make any sense ;-)
Title: Re: Not a joke: n00bz+threadstarting
Post by: player1 on December 18, 2007, 02:37:50 am
Or did it make so much sense that you just blew your mind?
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Eli on December 19, 2007, 08:57:11 am
By the way I saw Caveman use the Painsaw+jetpack combo multiple times on the (Cebt) clan server xD

Also I think THE MOST USELESS combo I have ever seen is psaw battpack.... xD I had to explain that the painsaw cannpt, and doesn't need more ammo... then I started doing it as a joke and saying "OMFGWTFNUBHAX MAH PAINSAW IS OUTTA AMMOSz0RSZ!!!!!!" till I got kicked xD
Title: Re: Not a joke: copycat insanity
Post by: player1 on December 19, 2007, 07:48:06 pm
I saw somebody doing something so stupid I just hadda run around doing it being annoying until someone paid attention to me
Title: Re: Not a joke: painsaw+jetpack
Post by: Eli on December 19, 2007, 10:42:34 pm
Nice xD >.< Yes this post is total spam.... welll... yeah xD  it is an odd combo though xD