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Community => Clans => Individual Clan Threads => Topic started by: KamikOzzy on December 13, 2007, 07:21:13 am
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I missed the Alliance of Defiance. I know it is unintelligent to bring a clan back even once, and how unimaginably foolish it will seem to bring it back a second time.
I had a pretty good thing going with NT, and I hate to leave Dracone so soon. Drac's a great leader, and he's a nice guy, too. I am fully aware of how unreliable I have been, and this is my insignificant apology.
It does not matter what clan I promise loyalty, members of other clans will hate me for not choosing their banner instead. The only solution is to be myself, and this is the only way I know how.
I recognize my failures as a leader, and to be honest, I'm not sure if I can surmount those roadblocks. I am not a adequate tactician, and my skills are on par at best. I have trouble putting troublemakers in their place, and I am not a recruiter by any means. I have never attracted many skilled members. (Though several have become skilled while in the clan.) I have never led a clan that top players have even considered joining when their clan dies/isn't right for them.
I know that no matter how we try, we will not overcome a clan like AA, or OPP. I don't know if it is strategy we lack most, or raw skill, but there is something. I cannot say I don't care if we win. I want to win, of course, I just don't know how.
Basically, I want everyone to know that I understand the foolishness of my actions. I do intend to proceed with them, however, and I will try my best. I am asking that if you are a skilled player, at least talk with me and the other clan leaders, and consider all your options, before you join AA. They have a monopoly on talent right now, and I implore you to join someone that needs you.
If anyone thinks they can help us: teaching scrim strategies, introducing new bases, organization (such as practices), general playing, or in any other way; I am in no way too proud to accept your help, and, regardless of who you are, here your suggestions and try them out.
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Hey Ozzman. Good luck in your quest :> Hope to quote song lyrics with you again sometime.
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Heh, I've always liked AoD glad to see it back, don't drop it this time, again..... :P I'd join but I'm held up and I'd just down your skill level anyway.
We'd be glad to have some practices with ya though on the ms clan server.
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Come play us, Its been awhile since we have.(Finals for me+homework) We can make it a practice kind of thing, that could benefit both our clans. I am willing to share everything I know. We really need to get back into the groove of scrimming. Plus I got a new member to teach. Also anyone is welcome on our teamspeak during a scrim as long as they are quiet.
I am thinking of trying some balance changing settings, like turning share off. I notice 2 good clans, will only win as aliens. Or though human extreme camping.
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Come play us, Its been awhile since we have.(Finals for me+homework) We can make it a practice kind of thing, that could benefit both our clans. I am willing to share everything I know. We really need to get back into the groove of scrimming. Plus I got a new member to teach. Also anyone is welcome on our teamspeak during a scrim as long as they are quiet.
I am thinking of trying some balance changing settings, like turning share off. I notice 2 good clans, will only win as aliens. Or though human extreme camping.
I noticed that too, but share a lot of times is a better benefit to humans than aliens. When you are 3 creds short of a shotty helm, it is a lot easier for a teammate to share you 3 than you try to fight and end up feeding with something lesser. Not so much in scrims though because of the excessive camping and careful strategies. You don't really rush out as much.
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I may not be great, but I generally consider myself an above average tactician, at the very least. I'm also pretty damn good at building. I'll help out. You guys have a server yet?
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<3 ozzy
i wish you the best of luck.
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yo ozzy!
GO AOD!! xD
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Wish you the best of luck Ozzy, I know you'll do a great job :D
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Ozzy, NOOOOO! Do you guys have a server or website yet?
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Ozzy, NOOOOO! Do you guys have a server or website yet?
If they do I hope they ban you from it
Have fun sir.
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If they do I hope they ban you from it
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If they do I hope they ban you from it
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Hey ozzy, wish you best of luck :)
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Hi Ozzy, I hope you remember me. You gave me a great shot when i was just a lowly player coming out of the broken }F{ clan. You gave me my first big break. Thank you for all of your help and support durring my first months on Trem. I'm here to wish you luck with AoD, and to let you know that you will always have an ally in |F2F|. If you need anything at all, feel free to ask. Good Luck buddy.
Your Friend,
|F2F|Andrew, A.K.A. Red_X
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but we need good people ozzy
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Hi Ozzy, I hope you remember me.
|F2F|Andrew, A.K.A. Red_X
if he doesn't remember someone who was in his own clan, that would be very sad indeed.
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Sad indeed that would be.
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The fact of the matter J-cool, is that AA does indeed have a massive monopoly on skilled members. Ozzy is right imploring that skilled players go see clans that truly need them instead of feeding the AA monster more good members. There is no point in being number 1 if there is nobody to fight you for the spot. The fact that AA has so many good members puts other clans in jeopardy right out of the gate. They have nothing to build on unless they discover a diamond in the rough. It is forcing every other caln in Tremulous to train every member they get and that takes time, while AA sits on the number 1 throne and controls numbers 2 - infinity without a challenger.
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What about OPP, NT, and V. They give AA a run for their money. In fact if V would organize and play at the same place. They would be a lot better than AA. I see quiet a few AA members at my server like j-cool and none of them hold up to anger. No one whose ever connected to my server(that isn't also in v) holds up to anger. Anger has 20 kills within 3-4 minutes almost every round. No matter who is on the other team. The only time anger loses is if no one on his team builds and we get a lucky base rush or lestrange is on the other team. :P I will agree, however, that AA holds a monopoly over the amount of skilled players. They have 3-4 players like yahoo, shade, bug, and I'm drawing blanks here :P that are better than the best of most of other clans and the other 10-15ish of their members are all at the level of the upper of other clans. If that makes any sense. They have competition though its just not showing itself much. :P
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Come on guys where is your guys sense of competition? If you never have anyone to compete with how do you get better? No one can have a monopoly of good players there are 1,000's. Why not try helping some newer players you see with good aim? Teach them some team tactics.
Individual skill matters but not as much as coordination, and teamwork. AA is a good clan because they try and combine the 2, not because their members have individual skill. So even if you don't have the skill levels, you can get the teamwork.
Once finals are done with this week I plan to be on scrimming a lot during my time off. Come by our server after thursday.
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Trying to avoid the monopoly of good players was why BodyOrgan went [W]olf in the first place... Dunno what's gonna happen now that I've more or elss disbanded it and gone NT
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The fact of the matter J-cool, is that AA does indeed have a massive monopoly on skilled members. Ozzy is right imploring that skilled players go see clans that truly need them instead of feeding the AA monster more good members. There is no point in being number 1 if there is nobody to fight you for the spot. The fact that AA has so many good members puts other clans in jeopardy right out of the gate. They have nothing to build on unless they discover a diamond in the rough. It is forcing every other caln in Tremulous to train every member they get and that takes time, while AA sits on the number 1 throne and controls numbers 2 - infinity without a challenger.
This is what I've been preaching for quite some time now.
I have *always* agreed with BeerBastard, that training newer players is the way to go, and it helps the community more than just finding the best players. The problem is, despite any talent I myself may possess, if I recruit just two or three newer players right off the bat, then *no* skilled players want to join.
I've got some existing members from the old AoD still around, great guys, too. But as far as recruiting goes, I'm holding out for some big talent. I haven't recruited a single player yet, but I've been harassing some of the best players every chance I get.
The problem is the depth in the roster. You can't win a scrim with two great players on a team, and two newish but okay players, when you're battling 4 good-great players with 10 more good players on spec to sub in at any time. If AA needs a sub, they just put in Yahoo, no big deal. If I need a sub, I'm literally getting on AIM trying to convince Vindication to reinstall tremulous this second. :P
And sadly, as Red_x says, I need a diamond in the rough. Really I need about 4 diamonds. Denton was one, guess where he's at now. Suvi was one, guess his clan, too. The worst part is that I've always wanted players with good character, in addition to skill. A skilled player when you're desperate is enough to make you consider compromising your values quickly. :(
On a completely un-related note, though I love this discussion, I wanna thank you all for being so nice and helpful in the revival of my little clan. You all had the chance to be super-jerks, but I really didn't see any of that. Of course, Dracone's not back yet, and he's going to kill me. =/
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What about OPP, NT, and V. They give AA a run for their money. In fact if V would organize and play at the same place. They would be a lot better than AA. I see quiet a few AA members at my server like j-cool and none of them hold up to anger. No one whose ever connected to my server(that isn't also in v) holds up to anger. Anger has 20 kills within 3-4 minutes almost every round. No matter who is on the other team. The only time anger loses is if no one on his team builds and we get a lucky base rush or lestrange is on the other team. :P I will agree, however, that AA holds a monopoly over the amount of skilled players. They have 3-4 players like yahoo, shade, bug, and I'm drawing blanks here :P that are better than the best of most of other clans and the other 10-15ish of their members are all at the level of the upper of other clans. If that makes any sense. They have competition though its just not showing itself much. :P
True, OPP, NT and V do give us a run for our money but, don't look at public games and compare it to scrims, theres a big difference. And next time we scrim one of them you should come and watch.
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I'm out of AA, but I still <3 all of you, so if J-Cool lets me, I can continue to be Mr. Fix-It server-maintenance guy.
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If you are that fix what I've told j-cool to fix a million times. So it stops fuxing up everyone's binds.
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This is the same thing that happened months ago when I was in Zubs
There have always been 2-3 dominant clans. I doubt it'll change, sadly.
Hence, scrims will always suck.
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And what praytell are those 3 dominant clans?
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If you are that fix what I've told j-cool to fix a million times. So it stops fuxing up everyone's binds.
I've heard you im just not listening =/
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Right now they are AA and OPP, before they were V and OPP, before that they were Zubs, Xil and OPP, before that they were NT, OPP, Xil (I think it was alive then), etc
run on fragments i like that combination
Btw those clans weren't listed in order so ye
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Ozz, good luck with AOD, and Ann your not in the position to talk about AA. You banned sonic for warping and beating you in the 1v1. You also believe that he adjusts his settings to make himself warp, i know him in real life, and he has wireless internet.
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Actually now it is, NT, LXG, OPP and, AA. Because NT IS ALIVE!
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Actually now it is, NT, LXG, OPP and, AA. Because NT IS ALIVE!
LXG you kidding? NT wasn't included as its been a while since anyone has seen them..
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shade
As I recall, Shade, that was Eclipse and not Anni. Am I mistaken?
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If you are that fix what I've told j-cool to fix a million times. So it stops fuxing up everyone's binds.
J-Cool: If you let me, I'll fix it :P
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Who the hell are LXG?
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Who the hell are LXG?
COM revival minus all of COM's best players (no offense to the rest of COM).
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I see people wearing NT tags every day, easily.
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It was me. I am on wireless internet and any of my server regulars will vouge for my lag. I lag a ton too but it does not make me harder to hit. Normally when someone lags, the freeze in one spot for a second. Allowing you to get a few free bullets/a chomp off and then they tele to where they would be. Sonic his model freezes and his hitbox keeps going. So you can't hit him but you see him right there. It is uncanny and weird. Also the him beating me was nothing to do with his ban. Besides he didn't beat me. He won aliens and I won aliens. I should of won as humans too but his warp was too much. I am not the best human player there is. But when he fights a ret until its dead and 3 full clips of rifle from me. That I normally kill any goon with. Actually any time I do that the goon dies. Its just normally the goon kills me before then. When he killed me he still had 113 hp. How does almost 2 full seconds of turret and 3 almost perfectly aimed rifle clips only do less than half health to a goon? That kills most rants. You can ask war that sonic gets banned frequently from our server. He plays there just to bitch at everyone and if eclipse hadn't deleted them I could show you logs of some of his rantings at everyone for no reason. He is an ignorant asshole that is the reason for his ban. In fact he was banned from the server but ozzy unbanned him. He was talking more shit after the 1v1(if you can call it that, more like 1v.3 because of his lag he might as well of been 1/3 the size hence 3 times as hard to hit) so he got re-banned. At least I don't put my reasons to bans as "Fucking faggot", "retard", or "fat ass". Which is the normal reason for bans of my members to your server j-cool. I even yell at my members for not putting valid reasons. I'm not necisarrily calling sonic a flat out cheater. But his warp is not a normal warp or a normal cause of lag. Especially since his ping never goes up ever. If the lag was because of his wireless his ping would flunctuate like mine.
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I 1vs1'd sonic today, just to see for myself. I'll admit, it was incredibly hard to beat him, when it should'nt have been. Something very strange is up with his net, not saying its on purpose, but saying a remedy should be sought. I finally found that MD worked the best against him, which seems weird, but worked.
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Not to boast or anything, but I pretty much owned him 3/1 in 1v1's.
This was easily four days or less ago.
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I'll play someone 1v1, but I expect the aliens to win.
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i hate 1 vs 1s. no one is there to watch your back. :(
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i hate 1 vs 1s. no one is there to watch your back. :(
Like you need someone to watch your back ;)
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LXG you kidding? NT wasn't included as its been a while since anyone has seen them..
Every LXG member is active and they have 20+ members. I am an NT recruit but Yahoo(dustin) banned me from the AA Server because he doesn't like me, but I dont do anything wrong on the AA Server. :(:(:(:(
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LXG is league for extrodinary grangers
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Yes it is. But they all suck badly, they are even worse than elmo! lmao j/k
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LXG is league for extrodinary grangers
How retarded is that.... Aren't they an SST based clan? I doubt any of them are even "average" builders.
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well they are an sst clan, like equi said, it went from COM then got worse and became BoT with 600 members. then became LXG, they dont even build they just think grangers are cool i guess
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I doubt any of them are even "average" builders.
Actually they have a member named "Seeeker" and I haven't seen many builders that good, but then again he only plays on SST.........
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tito for a long time you only played on sst then mg members made fun of you so much you stopped. its easy to be a good builder on sst because theres 998 bp ::)
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i am a sucky builder. i will admit it.
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Elmo, you are an idiot, I stopped on SST because of all the n00bs and the high BPs and the lagg and the asinine admins and ... and ...
And I stopped on SST "before" MG.
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Didn't you already say you wanted to stop argueing with me but now you come back and call me an idiot. Learn to show some respect for your elders ::)
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Didn't you already say you wanted to stop argueing with me but now you come back and call me an idiot. Learn to show some respect for your elders ::)
i'm pretty sure you are younger than him elmo.
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Equilibrium
Physically, perhaps.
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Equil caught the joke! but then didn't understand it :/
Younger I am. But I was only as ignorant as thirdstreet when I was 7.
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How about you all show some respect for the thread poster instead of yet another derailment.
Best of luck Ozzy.
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How about you all show some respect for the thread poster instead of yet another derailment.
Best of luck Ozzy.
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How about you all show some respect for the thread poster instead of yet another derailment.
Best of luck Ozzy.
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My opinion matters more than all of yours.
That's right, bitchez.
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How about you all show some respect for the thread poster instead of yet another derailment.
Best of luck Ozzy.
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Ozzi suk.
<3 Plague.
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Right now they are AA and OPP, before they were V and OPP, before that they were Zubs, Xil and OPP, before that they were NT, OPP, Xil (I think it was alive then), etc
run on fragments i like that combination
Btw those clans weren't listed in order so ye
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be Zilla”; and there was Zilla.
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Right now they are AA and OPP, before they were V and OPP, before that they were Zubs, Xil and OPP, before that they were NT, OPP, Xil (I think it was alive then), etc
run on fragments i like that combination
Btw those clans weren't listed in order so ye
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be Zilla”; and there was Zilla.
ya thats how i remember it.
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Good luck with teh clan Ozzyshka .)
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Right now they are AA and OPP, before they were V and OPP, before that they were Zubs, Xil and OPP, before that they were NT, OPP, Xil (I think it was alive then), etc
run on fragments i like that combination
Btw those clans weren't listed in order so ye
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be Zilla”; and there was Zilla.
And God said, Let us make OPP in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Amen.
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Fish and the sea suck anyways ;)
You can have it.
<3
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Yeah but u gonna just let them take the cattle like that???
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post AoD website please. :)
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Ish a secret ok
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ozzy, pm meh?
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he has wireless internet.
cool me 2
@ozzy nice re-restart 2 AoD
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O boi doods, i cnt wate 2 get bak yeh yeh lolz
So yeah, it's fine Ozzy, your leaving contributed to the current challenges for NT and it's getting fun to come back from these things. :D Good luck, I'll see you when I get back to Trem.
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AoD seems to be doing well Ozz. Congrats. Pm me if you get the chance.
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Yes, AoD is doing just fine. In fact, I got quite a humorous message yesterday saying that "they" didn't know AoD was alive. But yes, it lives on.
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Welcome back.