Tremulous Forum
General => Feedback => Topic started by: pharo212 on January 10, 2008, 09:59:02 pm
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While playing, I have noticed that for Aliens, attacks are kinda boring. Most of them are copies of the dretch attack except you hit a button. Then you have pounce (Jump but chargeable) the gas attack, and the spike attack. Also the alien screen has nothing on it but the HUD. Humans get weapons, but for aliens, you have to have an icon on the HUD to tell you what you are. I think that there should be some animations for aliens, like scuttling legs on the bottom, claws coming on screen for swipe. Do you think this is a good idea?
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While playing, I have noticed that for Aliens, attacks are kinda boring. Most of them are copies of the dretch attack except you hit a button. Then you have pounce (Jump but chargeable) the gas attack, and the spike attack. Also the alien screen has nothing on it but the HUD. Humans get weapons, but for aliens, you have to have an icon on the HUD to tell you what you are. I think that there should be some animations for aliens, like scuttling legs on the bottom, claws coming on screen for swipe. Do you think this is a good idea?
I definitely would love some claws like in the AVP games. Legs? Hell no, that'd be disturbing to see something scuttling around the edegs.. Would blur out some sneaky humans :D
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yeah, I was thinking of something for dretches. But really, the aliens are like walking video cameras when you play them, and upgrading really has no change except for that one icon on the hud.
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Claws have been in the plans for a while. The modelers need to finish them.
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Oh, didn't know that.
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(http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/mar_chop_render06.jpg)
(http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/mar_chop_render07.jpg)
(http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/goonconcept.jpg)
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:o :o :o
That's awesome! Great work!
:laugh:
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* Taiyo.uk has wet his pants and will require a pipe clamp for the next day or two.
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:o they look great!
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DO WANT!!!! :o
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It good for the Tremulous devs to show off their work now and then :D
Way to go Stannum.
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Oh goody :D
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Claws would be cool as, and pincers or something for dretch.
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Only problem is, how are the devs going to get those "weapons" to move as legs, and stay fixed to the plane you're standing on(where they don't move up and down around the screen)?
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Only problem is, how are the devs going to get those "weapons" to move as legs, and stay fixed to the plane you're standing on(where they don't move up and down around the screen)?
i think you have just figured out the reason 1.2 is being delayed
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Looks great, but I was wondering; Is that concept art?
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The goon claw? Hell no, that's the new renderer in 1.2 ;D
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Only problem is, how are the devs going to get those "weapons" to move as legs, and stay fixed to the plane you're standing on(where they don't move up and down around the screen)?
Yeah, that's an interesting problem actually. Another problem is biting aliens. If you look at the world animation, Dragoons, Marauders, and Dretches bite rather than slash. How are you going to make that work? (Aside from lying and showing a hand swipe as apparently the Goon concept art above is going to do.)
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Yes, that would be a problem.. eyes are above the mouth, so you wouldn't see it.. perhaps they'll change the world animation and make them claw-swipes.. otherwise, dretches could be doomed to no animations! Poor dretches.. :dretch:
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Don't goons chomp, though?
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Yes! We need another awesome mouth camera! ^^
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Yes, that would be a problem.. eyes are above the mouth, so you wouldn't see it.. perhaps they'll change the world animation and make them claw-swipes.. otherwise, dretches could be doomed to no animations! Poor dretches.. :dretch:
they are so small (especially on the MG dev server) that any animation is basically lost on them anyway
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i woudn't mind changing mara to slash and not having an animation for dretch, but goons are chompers.
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but goons are chompers.
[13:17:22] <Stannum> I've been starting at the arm section of the goon choppers all day long :/
[13:17:31] <Stannum> waiting for it to uv map itself
[13:17:57] <@kevlarman> don't goons chomp?
[13:18:02] <@Norfenstein> shh
[13:18:09] <Stannum> >_<
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[18:12:28] <+Stannum> http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/tremgoon_render11.jpg
[18:12:32] <+Stannum> it is done hoor
[18:20:07] <thewhitebear> whoah... nice. What is it?
[18:20:25] <+BunnyTheLifeguar> goon claws?
[18:21:35] <thewhitebear> for what? looks as if it doesn't belong to trem.
[18:22:29] <+Stannum> its for the inview choppers
[18:26:36] <+Atom_Eve> Don't goons chomp, though?
[18:30:06] <+Stannum> SHUT UP >:|
[18:30:16] <+Atom_Eve> :>
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I feel bad for stannum. But we could use them to come into view when goons charge pounce?
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But we could use them to come into view when goons charge pounce?
FINALLY. Somebody who isn't a hurf durf. \o/
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<3 Stannum
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But we could use them to come into view when goons charge pounce?
FINALLY. Somebody who isn't a hurf durf. \o/
Also you could use them to show the goon hit with the pounce ;) (hmm... gory gibs maybe? ;D )
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This game needs gibs on instant kills!
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This game needs gibs on instant kills!
Seconded. Blood too, lots of it.
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Look at some of the other stuff Stannum has in his pictures folder.
http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/
Look at the human guns in particular. They can only be described as awesome at this point.
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Thanks. We are finally going to get the cyborg aliens. (http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/rawrpew.jpg)
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Is that a goon chomper with turrets and lazrs?
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wow, human weapons look great. the shotgun, even though it looks the simplest, also looks the coolest.
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Those are all circa 2006 so don't get your hopes up.
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the devs exist YA! for the biting aliens make small tenicals come out of there mouth and damage the human make em look like this that is what i would do will make animating easier and looks cool (to me)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Nautilus_tentacles.jpg/607px-Nautilus_tentacles.jpg)
sorry couldn't find smaller photo don't even know what this thing is :) just Google searched technicals and got this. This is exactly what i was thinking of i guess Google doesn't hate me anymore
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the devs exist YA! for the biting aliens make small tenicals come out of there mouth and damage the human make em look like this that is what i would do will make animating easier and looks cool (to me)
(image)
sorry couldn't find smaller photo don't even know what this thing is :) just Google searched technicals and got this. This is exactly what i was thinking of i guess Google doesn't hate me anymore
Heh, what else did you get for that search? :D
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Some of those weapons have a higher amount of detail than I thought you could cram into Tremulous and not have it lag like crazy. That's great news, I had been building my models on the assumption that anymore detail and I could crash Trem. ;)
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just finished looking through all the photos. didn't like the shotgun though that you should improve. the shotgun a little maybe like this (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2191/2282859979_61f61e447a_b.jpg)with two barles in front but if you skin the other one well it might work.
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the devs exist YA! for the biting aliens make small tenicals come out of there mouth and damage the human make em look like this that is what i would do will make animating easier and looks cool (to me)
pic
sorry couldn't find smaller photo don't even know what this thing is :) just Google searched technicals and got this. This is exactly what i was thinking of i guess Google doesn't hate me anymore
That face would look so cool as an aliens head..
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agreed that is why i posted it