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pharo212

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Alien Attacks
« on: January 10, 2008, 09:59:02 pm »
While playing, I have noticed that for Aliens, attacks are kinda boring. Most of them are copies of the dretch attack except you hit a button. Then you have pounce (Jump but chargeable) the gas attack, and the spike attack. Also the alien screen has nothing on it but the HUD. Humans get weapons, but for aliens, you have to have an icon on the HUD to tell you what you are. I think that there should be some animations for aliens, like scuttling legs on the bottom, claws coming on screen for swipe. Do you think this is a good idea?
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Tycho

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 11:28:33 pm »
Quote from: pharo212 on January 10, 2008, 09:59:02 pm
While playing, I have noticed that for Aliens, attacks are kinda boring. Most of them are copies of the dretch attack except you hit a button. Then you have pounce (Jump but chargeable) the gas attack, and the spike attack. Also the alien screen has nothing on it but the HUD. Humans get weapons, but for aliens, you have to have an icon on the HUD to tell you what you are. I think that there should be some animations for aliens, like scuttling legs on the bottom, claws coming on screen for swipe. Do you think this is a good idea?

I definitely would love some claws like in the AVP games. Legs? Hell no, that'd be disturbing to see something scuttling around the edegs.. Would blur out some sneaky humans :D
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pharo212

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 11:37:29 pm »
yeah, I was thinking of something for dretches.  But really, the aliens are like walking video cameras when you play them, and upgrading really has no change except for that one icon on the hud.
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Lakitu7

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 01:39:06 am »
Claws have been in the plans for a while. The modelers need to finish them.
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pharo212

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 01:48:39 am »
Oh, didn't know that.
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Stannum

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 02:23:04 am »


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kozak6

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 03:14:01 am »
 :o :o :o

That's awesome!  Great work!

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Taiyo.uk

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 06:14:51 am »
* Taiyo.uk has wet his pants and will require a pipe clamp for the next day or two.
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pharo212

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 12:09:41 pm »
 :o they look great!
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Tycho

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 01:56:44 pm »
DO WANT!!!! :o
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Lava Croft

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2008, 02:15:20 pm »
It good for the Tremulous devs to show off their work now and then :D
Way to go Stannum.
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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2008, 04:13:54 pm »
Oh goody :D
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Sanity

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 10:16:44 am »
Claws would be cool as, and pincers or something for dretch.
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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 06:48:04 pm »
Only problem is, how are the devs going to get those "weapons" to move as legs, and stay fixed to the plane you're standing on(where they don't move up and down around the screen)?
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Geni3

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2008, 02:19:32 am »
Quote from: Odin on January 18, 2008, 06:48:04 pm
Only problem is, how are the devs going to get those "weapons" to move as legs, and stay fixed to the plane you're standing on(where they don't move up and down around the screen)?
i think you have just figured out the reason 1.2 is being delayed
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Shadowgandor

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2008, 08:27:07 pm »
Looks great, but I was wondering; Is that concept art?
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Taiyo.uk

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2008, 01:22:56 am »
The goon claw? Hell no, that's the new renderer in 1.2  ;D
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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 01:19:00 am »
Quote from: Odin on January 18, 2008, 06:48:04 pm
Only problem is, how are the devs going to get those "weapons" to move as legs, and stay fixed to the plane you're standing on(where they don't move up and down around the screen)?

Yeah, that's an interesting problem actually. Another problem is biting aliens. If you look at the world animation, Dragoons, Marauders, and Dretches bite rather than slash. How are you going to make that work? (Aside from lying and showing a hand swipe as apparently the Goon concept art above is going to do.)
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pharo212

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2008, 12:57:30 am »
  Yes, that would be a problem.. eyes are above the mouth, so you wouldn't see it.. perhaps they'll change the world animation and make them claw-swipes.. otherwise, dretches could be doomed to no animations! Poor dretches..  :dretch:
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Atom Eve

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2008, 01:00:51 am »
Don't goons chomp, though?
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whitebear

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2008, 01:13:28 am »
Yes! We need another awesome mouth camera! ^^
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smartalco

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2008, 03:29:13 pm »
Quote from: pharo212 on February 20, 2008, 12:57:30 am
  Yes, that would be a problem.. eyes are above the mouth, so you wouldn't see it.. perhaps they'll change the world animation and make them claw-swipes.. otherwise, dretches could be doomed to no animations! Poor dretches..  :dretch:
they are so small (especially on the MG dev server) that any animation is basically lost on them anyway
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_Equilibrium_

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2008, 06:09:37 pm »
i woudn't mind changing mara to slash and not having an animation for dretch, but goons are chompers.
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Atom Eve

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2008, 06:13:54 pm »
Quote from: _Equilibrium_ on February 20, 2008, 06:09:37 pm
but goons are chompers.
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[13:17:22] <Stannum> I've been starting at the arm section of the goon choppers all day long :/
[13:17:31] <Stannum> waiting for it to uv map itself
[13:17:57] <@kevlarman> don't goons chomp?
[13:18:02] <@Norfenstein> shh
[13:18:09] <Stannum> >_<
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[18:12:28] <+Stannum> http://janvanderweg.com/pics/tremulous/tremgoon_render11.jpg
[18:12:32] <+Stannum> it is done hoor
[18:20:07] <thewhitebear> whoah... nice. What is it?
[18:20:25] <+BunnyTheLifeguar> goon claws?
[18:21:35] <thewhitebear> for what? looks as if it doesn't belong to trem.
[18:22:29] <+Stannum> its for the inview choppers
[18:26:36] <+Atom_Eve> Don't goons chomp, though?
[18:30:06] <+Stannum> SHUT UP >:|
[18:30:16] <+Atom_Eve> :>
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whitebear

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2008, 06:20:06 pm »
I feel bad for stannum. But we could use them to come into view when goons charge pounce?
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Stannum

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2008, 02:42:54 am »
Quote from: whitebear on February 20, 2008, 06:20:06 pm
But we could use them to come into view when goons charge pounce?

FINALLY. Somebody who isn't a hurf durf. \o/
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Atom Eve

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2008, 03:03:17 am »
<3 Stannum
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Tycho

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2008, 07:42:39 am »
Quote from: Stannum on February 21, 2008, 02:42:54 am
Quote from: whitebear on February 20, 2008, 06:20:06 pm
But we could use them to come into view when goons charge pounce?

FINALLY. Somebody who isn't a hurf durf. \o/

Also you could use them to show the goon hit with the pounce ;) (hmm... gory gibs maybe? ;D )
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whitebear

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2008, 07:46:34 am »
This game needs gibs on instant kills!
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Lava Croft

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Re: Alien Attacks
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2008, 11:28:09 am »
Quote from: whitebear on February 21, 2008, 07:46:34 am
This game needs gibs on instant kills!
Seconded. Blood too, lots of it.
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