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Title: Both sides human?
Post by: steveZ1337 on February 25, 2008, 07:32:36 am
I really like the base building concept of tremulous and would like to make a mod, or a patch that would enable both sides to be human. I think this would be very fun.


Thanks,
  Steve
Title: Re: Both sids human?
Post by: whitebear on February 25, 2008, 08:58:29 am
This has been asked for many times. I personally might try it if such mod would exist but surely prefer trem 1.1 over it. I assure you that it gets good response for about 10% of community but most likely just handful of players will be active players.
Title: Re: Both sids human?
Post by: Odin on February 25, 2008, 09:06:57 am
This would be better suited as it's own game.
Title: Re: Both sids human?
Post by: Shadowgandor on February 25, 2008, 02:49:44 pm
I would try it, yes, but like whitebear said as well, I would still prefer trem 1.1 over it, prob
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: player1 on February 25, 2008, 03:41:35 pm
Wouldn't that just be Tribes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege:_Tribes)?

Without Aliens, it just ain't Tremulous.
Title: Re: Both sids human?
Post by: steveZ1337 on February 25, 2008, 05:04:40 pm
Starsiege tribes isnt open source.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: player1 on February 25, 2008, 09:09:22 pm
Yeah, it's been discussed a few thousand times, and if you'd like to make it, you're free to try. For me, it would be too much like so many other games, that it wouldn't be Tremulous anymore. I like the asymmetry of the teams. Tribes may not be open source, but I believe they were practically giving it away last year. My point is not whether it would be open source or not, my point is that HvH with bases and buildables has been done, and instead of investing all your time making something which would have a dubious payoff at best, you can just go download that for free and play today. If the open source nature of Tremulous excites you enough to attempt this, I say godspeed. Good luck. I just think you will be spending time doing something that isn't worth doing. That's my personal opinion, and if you don't agree, you're fully free to do as you like.

Cheers!

P.S. I notice that no one ever mentions making a mod where Aliens can play against Aliens. The fascination with all-Human Tremulous seems to me to be the mark of those who are new to the game, and haven't yet overcome the steep learning curve.

P.P.S. I played Tribes about ten years ago, so the idea of Humans vs. Humans with bases and buildables is so last century that it just doesn't excite me at all. Again, to each his own. If you build it, they may play.

P.P.S.S. Would you be so kind as to fix the spelling of the thread subject? I believe you mean: "Both sides human?"


Title: Re: Both sids human?
Post by: InsanityQ on February 25, 2008, 09:38:01 pm
no. Two human teams is a stupid idea.
Title: Re: Both sids human?
Post by: mooseberry on February 26, 2008, 04:26:12 am
It might work, but if all you did was swap aliens for a second humans than no.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: PIE on February 26, 2008, 08:03:42 am
Wouldn't that just be Tribes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege:_Tribes)?

Without Aliens, it just ain't Tremulous.
-_-.. no no.. the classic response is:
They already made this mod. Its called Quake.

I'd much rather see some alien vs alien biting action.. you know you want to!
Title: Re: Both sides Alien?
Post by: player1 on February 26, 2008, 01:03:00 pm
:)

Seemed too obvious...
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: steveZ1337 on February 26, 2008, 09:56:09 pm
Ok, so from what i see here two human sides is not very interesting to most people. What about an alien side that humaniod with their own unique technology and weapons.

P.S. I know how to play as aliens, I find the alien buildings boring, and it's the buying and unique combinations you can make as humans that i find interesting.

Title: Re: Both sides humanoid?
Post by: player1 on February 26, 2008, 10:19:33 pm
See now that might be interesting...

Again, I would say that the thing that makes Trem so cool is that the two sides are so different; if you could make one side similar, but still unique enough to offer a fresh take on gameplay, that could make an interesting mod. Sounds like a heck of a lot of work, unless you know a good modeler or three, and coder or two.

Like I said good luck with it. If its cool, people will play it.

Just didn't want you to spend a whole bunch of time making a HvH mod just to get flamed and have next to nobody play it. Wasn't sure if you knew of the community's general feelings about a HvH mod. Hey, prove us wrong, make something so great even the naysayers play it.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: PIE on February 27, 2008, 02:00:16 am
What about an alien side that humaniod with their own unique technology and weapons.
Sort of like a protoss type race you mean?
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: player1 on February 27, 2008, 02:09:59 am
What about an alien side that humaniod with their own unique technology and weapons.
Sort of like a protoss type race you mean?

Or you could have them be Human-created robots who got out of control, like the Cybrids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege) or the BioDerms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_2).
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: mooseberry on February 27, 2008, 04:33:05 am
What about an alien side that humaniod with their own unique technology and weapons.
Sort of like a protoss type race you mean?

Or you could have them be Human-created robots who got out of control, like the Cybrids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege) or the BioDerms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_2).

Don't forget the Cylons! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(Battlestar_Galactica))  ;)
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: player1 on February 27, 2008, 04:45:01 am
What about an alien side that humaniod with their own unique technology and weapons.
Sort of like a protoss type race you mean?

Or you could have them be Human-created robots who got out of control, like the Cybrids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege) or the BioDerms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_2).

Don't forget the Cylons! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(Battlestar_Galactica))  ;)

You may want to watch this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7951038502689013454&q=humanoid+robots+gone+bad&total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1). It probably won't happen, but it's best to be prepared.

(http://gadgets.boingboing.net/gimages/russianroboclown.jpg)
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: mooseberry on February 27, 2008, 04:55:42 am
What about an alien side that humaniod with their own unique technology and weapons.
Sort of like a protoss type race you mean?

Or you could have them be Human-created robots who got out of control, like the Cybrids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege) or the BioDerms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_2).

Don't forget the Cylons! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(Battlestar_Galactica))  ;)

You may want to watch this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7951038502689013454&q=humanoid+robots+gone+bad&total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1). It probably won't happen, but it's best to be prepared.

(http://PIC)


Funny. Nice link.  ;)
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: whitebear on February 29, 2008, 11:30:46 pm
Thanks for the link. Quite hilarious one.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Kaleo on March 03, 2008, 10:10:46 am
Zombies are more threatening...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6464560382917928861&q=how+to+survive+a+zombie+outbreak&total=77&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: SouL_BR on March 11, 2008, 02:38:15 pm
Or science versus magic

Or mechanical(androids like) versus biotechnology(humans bio enhanced). It sounds familiar...

Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Lava Croft on March 11, 2008, 03:28:51 pm
I think morons versus retards would be the best.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Death On Ice on March 11, 2008, 03:45:35 pm
Would you organize this match?
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Stannum on March 11, 2008, 11:24:41 pm
No, he would be playing.

;)
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Kaleo on March 12, 2008, 08:25:36 am
No, he would be playing.

;)

ZING!
Title: Re: Both sides stoopid?
Post by: player1 on March 12, 2008, 04:49:25 pm
And he's eligible for both teams...
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Lava Croft on March 13, 2008, 11:00:06 am
My parents always told me that I took the short bus to school because I'm special.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on March 13, 2008, 02:12:27 pm
My parents always told me that I took the short bus to school because I'm special.

yesterday I accidentally found your battlecard :-D
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Defender-117 on March 18, 2008, 12:17:33 pm
Yeah i agree. I think it would be fun and it would make tremulous a better fps.  Imagine ducking behind a barrel as a battle suit thunders by....
It would certainly be cool, but the maps would have to be better as so far there are very little outdoor maps.  Also a sniper rifle would be nice with some kind of scope reticle unlike the mass driver.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Defender-117 on March 18, 2008, 12:26:00 pm
I also agree with mooseberry. Humanoid aliens would be very fun to play against if they had their own weapons. Also it would be better if the weapons were free (meaning they could be picked up from a friend) with the armoury being a room with the walls lined with these weapon to be picked up.  Also a sniper rifle would be nice.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Archangel on June 12, 2008, 03:23:19 am
Actually, this is a bit of a necropost, but this would be /extremely/ useful in the mod I'm working on. only real issue is I dunno how to implement something along these lines. Anybody got any pointers?
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: David on June 12, 2008, 12:09:51 pm
Depending on what your doing, it would probably make more sense starting with q3 than trying to turn tremulous back into q3.
Title: Re: Both sides human?
Post by: Paradox on June 12, 2008, 10:24:47 pm
There is a great tremulous mod where both sides are human, and you dont even have to build.















Its called Quake3 TA