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Title: Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on May 30, 2008, 07:11:26 am
I just wanted to say that "Crap! (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8138.0)" is my new favorite thread, always being at the top of the list on the OT Sub-Forum. (I would have posted a nice "this thread is full of ____" or "crap crap is crap" (RIP n00b pl0x), but that thread is locked.) The only thing about it is that there just isn't enough material. I look for new entries and just don't find them. But I see that mods are only using the thread on a "going forward" basis, missing out on a grand opportunity to mine the Crap of the past. Plus new members are no longer contributing their fair share of daily Crap. Please feel free to delete this entire thread, and add it to my new favorite thread, namely: Crap!

Thx, Rocinante
Craptastically Enthralled, player1
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Tycho on May 30, 2008, 08:54:40 am
I must say that I totally agree with player1!
Rocinante's great idea saves me a lot of time when I just want to read something mindboggingly stupid since I don't have to look for it.
The strategy guide for TKing is the best at the moment  ;D
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: your face on May 31, 2008, 03:25:12 am
Yes, but so far, Smithjones is the leader of 'Crap!'  Moar crap pls!

And yes, thanks, and keep of the gud work.  ;) ^
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: gareth on May 31, 2008, 05:22:00 pm
i read this forum occasionally still..."crap thread" seems pretty obnoxious imo, mods seem a little like that in general tho tbh
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: KamikOzzy on June 01, 2008, 08:32:30 am
Ah yes, here's to Noob Plox. Sharer of many of my ISP's IP addresses apparently.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Survivor on June 01, 2008, 11:16:26 am
i read this forum occasionally still..."crap thread" seems pretty obnoxious imo, mods seem a little like that in general tho tbh

I'm hurt :(
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 01, 2008, 11:29:12 am
i read this forum occasionally still..."crap thread" seems pretty obnoxious imo, mods seem a little like that in general tho tbh

I'm hurt :(

Probably you should make a visible border between the main idea and the crap-cropped texts to make clear that your and rocinante's post are not belonging to the crap ^^
Just to avoid confusion ^^
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 02, 2008, 12:43:18 am
Ill just edit the color so they are maroon.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Vamprah on June 02, 2008, 02:22:23 am
and the dumbest topic goes to ..... ;D
why crap of all things?
Title: Re: One word to describe the above poster
Post by: player1 on June 02, 2008, 02:48:48 am
maroon
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Vamprah on June 02, 2008, 03:23:31 am
oof i am confused by player1's posts......
Title: Re: Maroon!!!
Post by: player1 on June 02, 2008, 04:31:23 am
What (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maroon) a maroon!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8gsaDdqGzA)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: sSopris on June 02, 2008, 04:33:11 am
I just wanted to say that "Crap! (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8138.0)" is my new favorite thread, always being at the top of the list on the OT Sub-Forum. (I would have posted a nice "this thread is full of ____" or "crap crap is crap" (RIP n00b pl0x), but that thread is locked.) The only thing about it is that there just isn't enough material. I look for new entries and just don't find them. But I see that mods are only using the thread on a "going forward" basis, missing out on a grand opportunity to mine the Crap of the past. Plus new members are no longer contributing their fair share of daily Crap. Please feel free to delete this entire thread, and add it to my new favorite thread, namely: Crap!

Thx, Rocinante
Craptastically Enthralled, player1

Thats what they all say about it until their serious post gets put into it
Title: Re: What serious posts?
Post by: player1 on June 02, 2008, 04:45:24 am
(http://malcolm816.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/you-take-me-seriously.jpg)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Vamprah on June 02, 2008, 04:59:10 am
unfortunately yes  ;)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 02, 2008, 05:37:35 am
(http://paradoxdgn.com/junk/seriouscat.jpg)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Vamprah on June 02, 2008, 05:43:06 am
I is not, I is  ;D
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Rocinante on June 02, 2008, 06:00:06 am
Thats what they all say about it until their serious post gets put into it

What serious post (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3704;sa=showPosts)?

(http://www.srhuston.net/junkpile/canthear.jpg)

Player1: Good, now I've got the actual sound effect to go with the line in my head since "maroon" was first uttered in this thread.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Vamprah on June 02, 2008, 06:48:42 am
lol nice XD
Title: Re: Craptasticality!!!
Post by: player1 on June 02, 2008, 06:51:47 am
You're despicable... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Z2MP8vMWU)
Title: I own
Post by: Vamprah on June 02, 2008, 07:22:43 am
cant you get a cartoon that says, I cant hear you?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 02, 2008, 08:16:53 am
More to the topic;

Maybe we should have a "Crap Comments!" thread, in which we can lol at the things in the "Crap!" thread.
Title: Re: u owe
Post by: player1 on June 02, 2008, 08:23:48 am
cant i get a search engine,and post stuffs myself?

OBJECTION! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2607697)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: your face on June 02, 2008, 06:50:36 pm
LOL @ Toast vs. Paradox.   :D

Poor guy tries to apologize, but gets banned again.  :P
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 02, 2008, 11:35:47 pm
The best way to apologise is to not be a raging dickwad.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: your face on June 04, 2008, 03:42:23 am
^ Crap pls.  :D
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Rocinante on June 04, 2008, 04:07:25 am
For future generations, Your Face wasn't referring to Paradox :P

But yeah (assuming the intention is to use this thread to talk about the Crap!) what the hell?  Almost like someone was trying to get their post there, which considering I at least count a post moved there as a strike that's probably not a good idea...
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 04, 2008, 04:53:22 am
Think we should stick this roci? As replies to the Crap! thread?

We could rename both posts "The Hall Of Crap" and "The Hall of Crap Comments" or something
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 04, 2008, 07:07:05 am
Think we should stick this roci? As replies to the Crap! thread?

We could rename both posts "The Hall Of Crap" and "The Hall of Crap Comments" or something

I agree.

Also, lovely work, Blood.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on June 04, 2008, 07:43:39 am
The best way to apologise is to not be a raging dickwad.
(http://<a href="http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/28/funny-pictures-i-can-haz-furgivnis/"><img class="mine_1089600" src="http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/funny-pictures-orange-kitten-wants-forgiveness.jpg" alt="cat" /></a><br />more <a href="http://icanhascheezburger.com">cat</a> pictures)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 04, 2008, 09:45:25 am
The best way to apologise is to not be a raging dickwad.
(http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/funny-pictures-orange-kitten-wants-forgiveness.jpg)

Fix'd
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Rocinante on June 04, 2008, 01:02:55 pm
Think we should stick this roci? As replies to the Crap! thread?

We could rename both posts "The Hall Of Crap" and "The Hall of Crap Comments" or something

I dunno.. the point of sticking Crap! was partially so it's easy to find when merging something into it, and partially like any other sticky - this is examples of stuff that shouldn't be on the forums, and why.  I have a feeling this thread won't be as "useful" to warrant a sticky, and will probably be found easily as long as there's new crap appearing.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on June 04, 2008, 06:50:10 pm
hey kaleo,for the future,what was wrong with it?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: sSopris on June 04, 2008, 09:53:41 pm
What serious post (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3704;sa=showPosts)?

Number 13...do I get to be stickied to Crap thread now?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 04, 2008, 11:25:47 pm
hey kaleo,for the future,what was wrong with it?

Broken image.
Title: Re: u borked t3h link!!!
Post by: player1 on June 09, 2008, 07:10:37 am
hey kaleo,for the future,what was wrong with it?

How could u not (http://tpirfailure.ytmnd.com/) notice that?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 09, 2008, 09:08:27 pm
Behold! I bring you 2 new posts from the land of crappyness!
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 09, 2008, 10:06:13 pm
poor little pony, i guess he is just too young... and not english maybe...
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Tycho on June 09, 2008, 10:22:54 pm
I did make an audible chuckle when I read Paradox's reasoning ;D Poor kid :'( :D
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on June 10, 2008, 04:35:38 am
epic (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8138.msg128342#msg128342) crap is epic (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8138.msg128364#msg128364)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 10, 2008, 04:36:23 am
(http://paradoxdgn.com/junk/freedomfridge.png)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Le Compilateur on June 10, 2008, 10:00:53 pm
What the hell is that...?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Paradox on June 10, 2008, 11:07:36 pm
Its the freedom fridge
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Le Compilateur on June 10, 2008, 11:08:54 pm
Uh, okay...whatever...
Title: Re: Freedom Fridge Freedom Fridge Magnet
Post by: player1 on June 11, 2008, 06:15:54 am
(http://www.shiningsungardenworks.com/images/thumbnails/freedom_magnet01.jpg)
Title: Re: u borked t3h link!!!
Post by: toastisgood on June 11, 2008, 08:50:36 pm
hey kaleo,for the future,what was wrong with it?

How could u not (http://tpirfailure.ytmnd.com/) notice that?
*sigh*
point out exactly when i said i was smart(READING AT THE AGE OF THREE DOESN'T COUNT ;D)?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 12, 2008, 08:41:39 am
ROFL The two new posts in the Crap thread are gold. Stupid people are funny.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Le Compilateur on June 12, 2008, 08:34:21 pm
I concur.
Title: Re: Master Crapster!!!
Post by: player1 on June 13, 2008, 06:32:47 am
I don't know who the heck the FNG is, but NiTRoX has written some of the most legendary crap on this forum.

LOL'd (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8342.msg129104#msg129104) :o ::) :-* :'( 28 dayz!
Title: Re: Double-Post Bumps Are Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on June 18, 2008, 11:27:28 pm
Just stopped by to say plz add the FH (Freakin' Hilarious) clan locked thread number two to the stickied Crap! thread. Thread of the Week status for sure. Oh the good Crap! NiTRox is missing out on!  :'( :laugh:
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 18, 2008, 11:28:32 pm
I agree with player1, that operation went so smoothly I can barely believe it.

Welcome to the internet, clanfolk!
Title: Re: Forgotten Topic
Post by: player1 on June 18, 2008, 11:33:04 pm
(http://www.greginthedesert.net/files/page0_blog_entry1084_1.jpg) (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8392.msg129584#msg129584)

earache my eye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwBxXLC4zUo)

if u weren't here u missed it!

(http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks04/blinky-images/167.png) (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8412.msg129584#msg129584)

Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 19, 2008, 03:07:12 am
operation

operation self ownage, precisely.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 19, 2008, 10:24:26 am
operation

operation self ownage, precisely.
Look at the thread again, are you sure? All I see is a lot of kids unable to control themselves. I merely push buttons.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 19, 2008, 11:33:38 am
the thing that you are even proud of it, and you call it an "operation" drives it into even deeper levels.
you annoyed some teenage mutant ninja turtle dudes using your reputation as a big-headed troll - that was the operation.
and they didn't have to control themselves at all, they had fun together flaming you and they are together with it, while you are poking maci to see how cool you are. some bans and locks are only cheering them up and making it obvious that you are on the wrong way to handle the situation.

on the other hand, "clanfolks", who are doing quite much for tremulous especially ingame, are not generally assholes. i don'T really know the american ones, but i have seen many people learning from clansmen by different kind of trainings, far beyond the standard "green box is the armory" helps. building bases, training with different classes vs different weapons, team movement, et cetera. not to mention that "clanfolks" are inviting many new players and having their own communities.

clanlife makes tremulous quite competitive, what is the reason why most people are playing the game. you obviously lack this kind of spirit, as your tremlife is behind the fences of ffa...

so after all: yes i am sure, you simply downgraded yourself to a level what you supposed to police.

ofc i know your answers so answering is futile, but you've been asking.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Tycho on June 19, 2008, 12:01:06 pm
Player1: aaaaargh that song is hilarious ;D
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 19, 2008, 12:38:43 pm
@Optimus: Don't you even realize how ridiculous your words are? What does being in a clan have to do with teaching people how to play? How are clangames different from what you call an 'ffa' game? What did clanfolk add to Tremulous besides a lot of childish, testosteron-driven drama? A quick look in your precious Clan section more than proves my point.

Really, there is nothing wrong with being in a clan, but please step off your cloud and put both feet back on the earth. Everything you said that speaks in favor of clanfolk applies just as well to people who are not in a clan, which kind of removes the foundation from your argument.

While I can understand you want to keep living the dream of 'clans add to Tremulous', I'm sorry to inform you that you are living a lie.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 19, 2008, 12:40:46 pm
@Optimus: Don't you even realize how ridiculous your words are? What does being in a clan have to do with teaching people how to play? How are clangames different from what you call an 'ffa' game? What did clanfolk add to Tremulous besides a lot of childish, testosteron-driven drama? A quick look in your precious Clan section more than proves my point.

Really, there is nothing wrong with being in a clan, but please step off your cloud and put both feet back on the earth. Everything you said that speaks in favor of clanfolk applies just as well to people who are not in a clan, which kind of removes the foundation from your argument.

While I can understand you want to keep living the dream of 'clans add to Tremulous', I'm sorry to inform you that you are living a lie.

Yay, lies.




They taste nice.
Title: Re: Thx!!!
Post by: player1 on June 19, 2008, 02:21:55 pm
Player1: aaaaargh that song is hilarious ;D

(http://cookingforbrevitt.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/19/thumbs_up.jpg)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Feng Shui on June 19, 2008, 02:34:49 pm
kekekeke
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 19, 2008, 02:46:08 pm
@Optimus: Don't you even realize how ridiculous your words are? What does being in a clan have to do with teaching people how to play? How are clangames different from what you call an 'ffa' game? What did clanfolk add to Tremulous besides a lot of childish, testosteron-driven drama? A quick look in your precious Clan section more than proves my point.

Really, there is nothing wrong with being in a clan, but please step off your cloud and put both feet back on the earth. Everything you said that speaks in favor of clanfolk applies just as well to people who are not in a clan, which kind of removes the foundation from your argument.

While I can understand you want to keep living the dream of 'clans add to Tremulous', I'm sorry to inform you that you are living a lie.

that's exactly why i told you not to answer, because i predicted all this bullshit. but as you wish, let's continue:

teaching how to play can happen of course at satgnu why playing ffa and having fun. but it can also happen by learning certain situations with different handicaps and bonuses, what boosts people's skills rather quickly. that kind of training can only happen when someone is thinking about playing this game as "dramatically" as you mean. this game is about TEAMplay, so it really fits to have its separated teams who can challenge each others. you can of course play individually as any clansmen are doing this most of the time. but as in a ffa team balance varies so much, you just can't measure yourself to others. that's why some people like to be in clans, where some kind of standards are getting measured.

your first problem is that new players are obsessed with being in a clan or making one, and that is because they see how other people respects clansmen of the good teams. they are trying to be as good as the CY, [F]lame or =V= in europe(not to mention us :-)), or as the IDN(i don't know) at US. and i guess it's respectable in a way. they do play the game and they are trying to behave as a team just like the successful ones. sorry to say that most of these people doesn't even know who Lava Croft is. but they do play and they are the majority. you are judging clans by they appeariance on these forums, but most of those people are never ever coming to this place, partly because of the "cesspool" you are supposed to take care of.

your second problem is that you stucked in the game without having any measure for yourself, what is the most important reason for being in a clan. if you are fed up, you can kick noob players, you can quit, you can mute and ban on your own server, depending on your mood. sometimes you are brave, sometimes you just flee. and you can have the right of the last word to tell, what is probably the coolest feature. i played very much on satgnu to know these things by experience. it's depending on your mood and there is nothing wrong about this as long as you get on well with maci. but you don't have the chance without being in a clan to prove yourself. you can be a smartass as an "ancient" player, having way more experience than anyone here, and i am not surprised that you act like this while you are still owned by noobs(!). after this amount of playing tremulous you are obviously not going to play any better, and that's sad, probably this will also happen in sex later... if you will ever start it :-D
oh, and about how clan wars differ from ffa? there is strategy, there is teamspeak, there is given roles to certain people (the builder, the base guard, the one who are checking for backstab attacks, the one who is calling out the camping enemy, etc), as there is the sharing of certain classes/weapons for the purpose of the team(like who gets the shotty or flamer or nade, etc, or who will attack from back as goon while others are maras, but there can be dretches even with evos for surprise kills). there are certain building types, they talk to each others whether if they need a move, an outpost, a turret change, or if the base is attacked.
as much as i remember, i saw an advertisement thread by satgnu made long time ago about "invitation only" days on the server, where experienced players could show off to each others. meh, competitive clans are "invitation only", where skilled guys are seeking skilled opponents... so what is so wrong about the stuff? i wish you could collect your friends to make a team to have great fun against other skilled people, but you just don't have the balls for that. i tried to do such a thing, you refused. ofc you told something like "ask maci", hahaha, but as he doesn't have the skills to face above average players, of course he hates the situation.

to cut it short, you are a subjectively great player, and i admit it, respect it, et cetera. but clanlife is the measure of being an objectively good player. don't be jealous on dudes who are having the balls to try themselves against others.

i can imagine a Lava Croft being a proven awesome builder and smart fighter who is acting selfishly on forums because he has a reputation.
but i see now a Lava Croft who is so cheap that he fights with newborn clans who probably started playing couple of months ago, and claiming it as a supreme victory.

i guess if you want to hear more of this, you should really call me before 112. :-)

and ofc it's nothing personal, but about this certain behavior that you show against clans, especially with your moderator status.

[EDIT: i canT' check out the 3 bonus posts while writing because my bandwith, sry]
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 19, 2008, 06:49:17 pm
Since you use a lot of words to say a simple thing, I will give you a simple answer:

Everytime I play a game of Tremulous, I show the balls you mention, and I pit myself against others.

I just want to add that your remark about FFA games not having any strategy is quite the insult to all of us who play FFA games daily, and find a lot of strategy in them. And that is not the trained clan 'strategy' of camping to Stage3, or even funnier, Sudden Death, a setting which commonly is enabled in most your 'clanwars'. So I again suggest you to come off your cloud and stop acting like you and your 'clanwars' are in any way superior to the common FFA game. It makes you look a bit like the thing that made you so angry about my avatar a while ago, actually. And I'm sure you don't want that.

[PS] If every post you make contains a remark like along the lines of 'don't bother to reply', you might want to consider to not post in the first place.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 19, 2008, 07:12:24 pm
i didn't say that clan wars are superior to ffa nor that they doN't have a strategy. btw its true that it lacks teamwork most of the time (owerpoweredaliensomg). doN't drive it to this direction. i didn't offend anyone who are not playing in clans, but you were speaking generally about 'clanfolks'.

the thing i wanted to point is that clan wars are more objective, as there arent new players and sudden jerks, and many kind of unpredictable disturbing things are fixed (such as player numbers).
yes, i've seen camping at clan wars, but from what i've seen and experienced, it's far not that common as in normal games.

and i am not angry at all. and more, i'm happy becuase clanwar "vs" (""!) ffa is an interesting topic, while you shouldn't forget that i was against your behaviour...
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 19, 2008, 07:42:33 pm
oh, and about how clan wars differ from ffa? there is strategy, there is teamspeak, there is given roles to certain people (the builder, the base guard, the one who are checking for backstab attacks, the one who is calling out the camping enemy, etc), as there is the sharing of certain classes/weapons for the purpose of the team(like who gets the shotty or flamer or nade, etc, or who will attack from back as goon while others are maras, but there can be dretches even with evos for surprise kills). there are certain building types, they talk to each others whether if they need a move, an outpost, a turret change, or if the base is attacked.
If this is what you see as the difference between a 'clanwar' and a common FFA game, you surely play on some very shitty servers. All it takes is two non-retarded players on the same team, in a common FFA game, to disprove your 'theory'.

[EDIT] Coming to think of it, I would guess that around 8 out the 10 games I play on FFA servers qualify as a 'clanwar', in your terms.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: ChaosSquirrel on June 19, 2008, 08:12:42 pm
Why has noone sent me a PM to notify me of the existence of this thread? I could add a lot!
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 19, 2008, 09:01:28 pm
[EDIT] Coming to think of it, I would guess that around 8 out the 10 games I play on FFA servers qualify as a 'clanwar', in your terms.

where??? :-D

i think i know what you are speaking of, because i know that kind of games.
two "non-retarded" player on the same team does not substitute a fix number of non-retarded ppl against a non-retarded enemy, where there are no feeders, no deconners, no killwhores, no confused fellas who get lost on ATCS, etc. or at least, significantly less, or at least at a higher lever :-)

sorry if you didn't get it after this much blah-blah.
but still, you could afford to leave them alone (what is the original point of the conversation).
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: beerbitch on June 19, 2008, 09:11:50 pm
[EDIT] Coming to think of it, I would guess that around 8 out the 10 games I play on FFA servers qualify as a 'clanwar', in your terms.

where??? :-D

i think i know what you are speaking of, because i know that kind of games.
two "non-retarded" player on the same team does not substitute a fix number of non-retarded ppl against a non-retarded enemy, where there are no feeders, no deconners, no killwhores, no confused fellas who get lost on ATCS, etc. or at least, significantly less, or at least at a higher lever :-)

sorry if you didn't get it after this much blah-blah.
but still, you could afford to leave them alone (what is the original point of the conversation).

Crap, of course .............

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-cat-christmas-present.jpg)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 19, 2008, 10:26:37 pm
[EDIT] Coming to think of it, I would guess that around 8 out the 10 games I play on FFA servers qualify as a 'clanwar', in your terms.

where??? :-D

i think i know what you are speaking of, because i know that kind of games.
two "non-retarded" player on the same team does not substitute a fix number of non-retarded ppl against a non-retarded enemy, where there are no feeders, no deconners, no killwhores, no confused fellas who get lost on ATCS, etc. or at least, significantly less, or at least at a higher lever :-)

sorry if you didn't get it after this much blah-blah.
but still, you could afford to leave them alone (what is the original point of the conversation).
Still, you not yet explained why there is no difference between what you call a 'clanwar' and a common FFA game. While I understand that by this time it must be rather difficult for you keep having this conversation, I would still like you to explain it a bit more.

Pretty please?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: ChaosSquirrel on June 19, 2008, 10:50:38 pm
I think I might understand what he's trying to say:

Clanwars are clan on clan, usually with quallity filters. Such as being let into the clan.
FFA (though in tremulous, this is a bad term) means that anyone can join.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 19, 2008, 11:35:17 pm
"...you not yet explained why there is no difference between what you call a 'clanwar' and a common FFA game..."

i guess iT's a typo...

just because you asked nicely let's open a thread about it later.
now back to life.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: ChaosSquirrel on June 20, 2008, 12:40:43 am
Whoops. Should have read more carefully. Now I can't counter argue. Crap.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 20, 2008, 02:32:51 am
"...you not yet explained why there is no difference between what you call a 'clanwar' and a common FFA game..."

i guess iT's a typo...

just because you asked nicely let's open a thread about it later.
now back to life.
It was indeed a dumb typo, but that does not dismiss you from clarifying your rather bold words. You mudsling at every FFA player that their games are devoid of strategy, planning, communication and just about every aspect that makes Tremulous fun, yet when I confront you with the obvious error in your statement, you scurry off with your tail between your legs.
Some 'balls' you got there.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 02:46:48 am
lol wowowowowowww, :-D

now you take the holy battlesuit to defend the poor ffa gamers? :-D

dear lava, YOU was the one who mudslinged and annoyed clans, and openly split into their face, and when i am defending clanlife, you are trying to make me the enemy of free games? :-D

the main question is not "what is wrong with ffa", but "why the f*ck are you hating clans".

nahh, thread soon.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 20, 2008, 07:15:07 am
lol wowowowowowww, :-D

now you take the holy battlesuit to defend the poor ffa gamers? :-D

dear lava, YOU was the one who mudslinged and annoyed clans, and openly split into their face, and when i am defending clanlife, you are trying to make me the enemy of free games? :-D

the main question is not "what is wrong with ffa", but "why the f*ck are you hating clans".

nahh, thread soon.
This whole shit started with some clanchild taking his clandrama outside of the clan section. It continues with you making some ridiculous statement about the differences in what you call a 'clanwar' and a common FFA game.
I mudslinged at the ridiculous clanfolk, and specifically you in this case, because you showcase the same kind of misplaced superiority complex as most other people who are in a clan. And so far, all you have done is exemplify this superiority complex, as is clearly showcased by what you think are the differences between what you call a 'clanwar' and a common FFA game. And still, you evade trying to explain your statement, whereas I have explained myself over and over.

I am not trying to make you the enemy of 'free games', whatever that might mean, I am just asking you to clarify why you tell me, and all the other FFA gamers, that the games they play lack everything that makes Tremulous fun, and why your so-called 'clanwars' by magical means posses all those things that make Tremulous fun.

Again, just so you cannot miss it, I will repeat myself:

Clanfolk are fucking retarded because they think the shitty games they play are in any way superior to a common FFA game. You are a poster child for this attitude.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: blood2.0 on June 20, 2008, 07:33:21 am
Stop imitating player1 with your image spam. It not funny when player1 does it, and it certainly is not funny when you do it. -Lava
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 11:23:54 am
patience dude, i have a life.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Kaleo on June 20, 2008, 12:06:37 pm
Stop imitating player1 with your image spam. It not funny when player1 does it, and it certainly is not funny when you do it. -Lava

Own'd
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 20, 2008, 01:14:28 pm
patience dude, i have a life.
Yes yes, pull the life card on me. You have time to write huge replies, but when it gets just a tad difficult, all of a sudden, 'life' is a factor.

Failure.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on June 20, 2008, 03:38:16 pm
Why did you even start arguing with lava? There is NO point.
Title: to be in clan or not to be in clan?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 04:52:30 pm
the original reason why i start this thread is lava's epic trolling on the 'clans' section. from there, the debate went to more peaceful waters where he stated that clansmen are all fucktards, because they think that they are more than 'non-clansmen'. from my side, i teased him (not for the first time) with his lack of balls to show off his skills at a scrim, as he is so upset on the existence of clans globally. instead of pulling his friends together and showing off, he asked me to explain why i think clans are an important part of this game.

from my limited experiences, i will now try to explain to him that clanlife is a thing what has some features what adds to Tremulous's community, and there is nothing wrong with being in a clan.

A:> tremulous is a team game. i find it quite obvious that certain people likes to gather a group of their friends to face off other groups, trying to train their skills to an optimal level, so they can find some extra challenge besides normal games, that they probably play and enjoy as much as anyone being in a clan or not.

B:> being in a clan requires some kind of restrictions what the clan leader decides. the aim of the clan can vary from "fortheLULz" trough training purposes to the total ownage of other teams. apart from very newborn clans, where dudes are simply trying to make a little empire of their own, being in a clan requires skills. this feature is providing a kind of standard when clans are fighting with each others.

C:> caused by the forementioned stuff, a clanwar is quite different from a "ffa"(free for all) game:
      1.) while in a free for all game skills of the players are very mixed, in a decent clanwar there are no absolute n00bs. this means that they understand game mechanics, they don'T do silly things accidentally/on purpose (well.... maybe less frequently :-)) like deconning-on purpose teamkilling-fake alarms on attacking base-get lost on the map-doing selfish actions-glitch building-acting silly-spamming any text-stupid debates within the team-debate on sharing evos/credits-cheating(as there are spectators and recorders to check it even after the game)-misunderstandable building, et cetera....

      2.) the dudes are playing the clan wars are more or less planned how to act in game. this is called strategy, and at ffa games you must be very lucky to have a team who is capable to follow reasonable orders (as lava said, 2 decent players are enough for that, and it's very-very true if they are playing a 2vs2 scrim). even if you are that lucky, there is a huge chance that you opinion is different than others so by a sudden act, the whole team can be confused (fun bases, selfish base killing actions, killwhoring, etc., not to mention the players who don'T even know what are the accurate meanings, like if you don't know what the overmind is, you just can'T imagine how to attack it...). in a decent team, there are separated roles for them (what can vary very much regarding the clan leader's imagination) like builder, base defender (who is aware of backstab attack as much as he is defending the base from sudden threats like psaw or reactor rape), first man on fire(the one who attacks first to lure out the enemy from camping points and dodging them while teammates are firing them), second attacker (who has the aim skill to shoot out the ones who are teased enough by the first dude to get into his line of fire), et cetera. this also requires the reasonable sharing of evos/credits//usage of the current ones, even when no sharing is enabled (for example at s1 you will never buy a chaingun as a first fire dude because you would do more damage to your own team than the aliens while turning back, but you rather choose a lasgun or md, or staying with rifle with an armor). at ffa, you can never be sure what kind of equipment your teammates will have before pushing TAB and checking it out. then you can go back to change your's or try to make the other change theirs, or try to stand in a proper formation what allows your random guns to be as effective as possible.

      3.) communication: most clans have teamspeak installed to have the most effective ans rapid communication amongst each others. while in an ffa it requires a z-typed text to spread information, at  a clanwar the dudes have the opportunity to share their thoughts instantly. this may look like an unfair business, as much i thought using binds are unfair business at my early days of playing the game. besides it's a priceless fun to hear how your teammates are pronouncing the name of classes and buildables :-D

      4.) there is an aim for everyone in the team. they are supposed to win, not to lose. at an ffa, you can easily quit and telling the others some last words like they are boring or not worthy to waste your time on them. especially if you are an admin on that server. but on a clanwar you are playing with the reputation of your own friends, so you just can't leave them alone. at an ffa, anyone can quit, join, and change the chances of winning/losing significantly. but in a clanwar, the amount of players are being set, so you must concentrate even if you are in the most shitty situation, and also, you can't just join your team if you feel that you'd change the balance, because you just... can't.

C:> for all the reasons mentioned before, clanwars are definitely more objective than a ffa game. if you play in a simple game, you can have noob teammates, noob opponents, you can killwhore the weakest of the enemy, you can use their noobness if they build some nonsenses. you can win against tough opponents if they are having some noob teammates, and also, you can lose because even if you act cool, your mates are acting like jerks. in clanwars, the clan leader has the responsibility for these kids, and at a decent war there is no "cheap" victory. those who are acting stupid will be fired ASAP, and as those who are attracted by being in a clan, will respect their decisions.

D:> that's why, the clansmen are providing their knowledge to their new members. they just can't afford to have a n00b in the team so they teach him/her.  at this point, i will rely on my personal experiences.. I've learned on your server(satgnu) the basics of the game, but noone could afford the time and energy to teach me how to fight. at ffa games i learned that the big green box is the armory, i learned that i supposed to kill the humans, but noone sacrificed the time to train me as much as i got while being in a clan. when i got invited to the clan i was grown on the ffa games. i was used to that for like... almost a year. checking my early stats can show you that i was the one who had the balls to struggle against your server's best players. that's why i dare to paint myself as an "objective" viewer, because i played on satgnu as much as on any other server.
while joining a clan, i got a 1 hour training a day about dodging, aiming, hiding, and so on. this is what i didn't get at ffa, and i doubt that anyone had. tricks, binds, huds, strategies are spreading under clanlife at least as much as on this forum... or as you call it, the "cesspool".

add1:> i don't say that everyone should be in a clans. i don't say that people outside of clans are "fucktards" as mod lava said it about clansmen. i only want to tell that those who are seeking extra challenge in tremulous should try it if they are in the mood, because iT's simply more objective to face standard teams than randoms.
but for those (who's poster kid is lava) who are blaming clans for their lack of fun, i'd suggest to find another target to outrage their hate.

@Lava: nahh, 'ere we go, 'ere we go.

P.S.: i don't want this thread to be infested with fun spam or any flame. the place for teasing lava has it's own threads, so let's keep this one clear from flame and arrogant messages.

[EDIT]: clansmen don'T lack ANYTHING what only-ffa gamers do, because they are usually playing ffa way more often than an average free player. on the other side,  "only ffa"-gamers can't experience how to be in a clan as long as they doN't try to be in one. whether if they like it or not, there is nothing to blame about them.
but there is also NO reason to hate clansmen just because they are in a clan. you can treat individuals as a mod as you want, but just because someone is in a clan, even if in a clan what has/had a jerk in their lineup, there is no reason to troll them. not as a forum member, not as a regular forum member, and especially not as a moderator.

I noticed this message shortly after replying here, and since I think you made an error by posting it in General Discussion, I have kindly helped you out and merged it back into the original thread. -Lava
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 05:05:23 pm
there is your failure, don't be upset.
answer point by point.
i know there is no reason to argue with you, but i'm curious how deep you can dig yourself by your own comments.

there you go.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 20, 2008, 05:43:34 pm
there is your failure, don't be upset.
answer point by point.
i know there is no reason to argue with you, but i'm curious how deep you can dig yourself by your own comments.

there you go.
Thank you, this is more that I needed.

[EDIT] 20 seconds later, I noticed you moved our discussion to the General Section. I will take this for an error, and kindly helped you out by merging your faulty post with the 'original' thread.

[PS] The sheer length of your post and lack of proper punctuation makes it a pain to read. After a read-through, I see you are not really saying anything you haven't said already, only this time you use about 10 times more words.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 05:51:31 pm
i guess it belongs to general discussion, so it wasn'T a mistake.

obviously, as you are out of the reach of a sensible debate, i tought it would be better to share the topic with the community.

you didn'T have a problem about making a new thread, even if i announced it like a day before, so i'm quite surprised about changing your mind, but there u go...:-D
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 20, 2008, 05:54:10 pm
Do not make a new thread in which you do nothing but continue a discussion that is going on in another (the 'original') thread already. I know you like the attention, and I know you probably were looking for some people to help you out here, but keep discussions of this nature in the threads where they belong. Looking at the name of this thread, I think this location is just about right.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 07:01:54 pm
well at least you didn't own yourself by answering.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 20, 2008, 07:11:28 pm
well at least you didn't own yourself by answering.
I did answer you, read my post again.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Tycho on June 20, 2008, 07:34:53 pm
so... now that summer is here and there is no university... ::) will this be daily? (http://www.improvresourcecenter.com/mb/images/smilies/popcorn.gif)

ps.: yes I am a disgusting hyena that feeds off the words of flamewars...
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 08:29:56 pm
[EDIT:@lava: kthnxbye]

[EDIT:@noez, it was just a humble try to reduce his hatred]
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: beerbitch on June 20, 2008, 08:46:51 pm
Stop imitating player1 with your image spam. It not funny when player1 does it, and it certainly is not funny when you do it. -Lava

Own'd

Aw... I feel so hurted now.  :laugh:

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-sad-cat-blackandwhite.jpg)

Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Bissig on June 20, 2008, 10:47:26 pm
In my understanding "Clans" are like a sports club or a soccer/football/whatever team. Whereas your fellow player on a public server is more like a random assortment of ppl knowing or not knowing each other, meeting on the streets and playing there, without all the rules/direction a sports club would provide. Also with a different form of training or training at all.

I don't see any point why you two argue at all.
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 20, 2008, 11:03:46 pm
because of an underground goalkeeper on the playground blaming the dutch soccer team what the fuck are they doing on the eu2008 championship instead of coming down to the park to play after lunch ;-)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on June 21, 2008, 12:08:52 am
I don't see any point why you two argue at all.
It's because arguing is the lifeblood if the internet! And because Opti, like me, also loves to talk!
Title: Re: a good time was had by all
Post by: player1 on June 21, 2008, 04:53:40 am
(http://www.leerburg.com/Photos/dogattack.jpg)
Title: itz in our vainz
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 21, 2008, 10:28:23 am
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03049109-d9b88d.jpg)
Title: Re: itz in our vainz
Post by: Bissig on June 22, 2008, 05:59:43 pm
(http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/43/07/0008/pic-03049109-d9b88d.jpg)

OMG, it is Jagged Alliance! I LOOOOOOOOOVED the demo level/map/stage ;-)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on June 22, 2008, 10:52:40 pm
:-)

so happy to hear that someone knows it :-)

early on, when i only had commodore, we gathered at my friend's home who had pc, and we each choose one character to control so we played a kind of roleplaying game with it :-) right now i started it again, and i still love its atmosphere.
i remembered it as if the characters were talking all these texts (like this one from the leet Mike), but later on i realized that only my early fantasy was completing it with the voice, and the speech is only during some ingame actions :-) but well, i still hear the speech from inside ^^
Title: Re: Holy Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on June 27, 2008, 08:01:44 am
Just stopped by to say plz add the FH (Freakin' Hilarious) clan locked thread number two to the stickied Crap! thread. Thread of the Week status for sure. Oh the good Crap! NiTRox is missing out on!  :'( :laugh:

how prophetic of me
they created a whole new subforum dedicated to Crap! and 'TRoX still ain't returned
what glorious summer reading
hit PRINT and take it (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?board=15.0) to the beach
Querulous: Threadkill
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 06, 2008, 01:05:59 am
ROFL The two new posts in the Crap thread are gold. Stupid people are funny.

u jerk  :P
Title: Re: The Return of Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 06, 2008, 01:46:41 am
ROFL The two new posts in the Crap thread are gold. Stupid people are funny.

u jerk  :P

How was your vacation?

(http://www.bomb-omb.com/images/manhunt2_banned.jpg)

Title: Re: The Return of Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 06, 2008, 04:39:34 am
ROFL The two new posts in the Crap thread are gold. Stupid people are funny.

u jerk  :P

How was your vacation?

(http://rhttp://www.bomb-omb.ecom/imagets/manhuant2_banned.jrdpg)


that picture kinda freaked me out a little...O_o
it seems as though everybody hates me now. :'(
I would post to say I'm sorry,but i might get banned again.
Title: Re: Oh Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 06, 2008, 05:44:08 am
plz break img tags when quoting pix

we don't hate you dude
just havin' a bit of fun is all
Title: Re: Oh Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 06, 2008, 02:44:25 pm
plz break img tags when quoting pix

we don't hate you dude
just havin' a bit of fun is all

saying'how was your vacation?'and posting some creepy manhunt picture with the word BANNED is what I think to be a cruel way to have fun.
Title: Re: Just for you
Post by: player1 on July 06, 2008, 06:50:20 pm
(http://yogibrewer.mlblogs.com/HappLand!-thumb-346x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 06, 2008, 08:51:41 pm
how many freakin images do you have?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Lava Croft on July 06, 2008, 09:00:54 pm
how many freakin images do you have?
As much as Google has! D'oh.
Title: Re: Secret Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 06, 2008, 09:14:22 pm
how many freakin images do you have?
As much as Google has! D'oh.

It's all about selection (http://www.mentor.lib.oh.us/picts/mysecret.jpg).
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 07, 2008, 02:33:55 am
okay but,wtf does a horse have to do with it?
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: TinMan on July 07, 2008, 03:47:19 am
There is NO HORSE in this thread.
Title: Re: Happyland Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 07, 2008, 06:46:01 am
wtf does a horse have to do with it?

unicornz & rainbowz (http://unicorns.com/store/image.php?productid=573)
Title: Re: Happyland Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 15, 2008, 12:00:24 am
wtf does a horse have to do with it?

unicornz & rainbowz (http://unicorns.com/store/image.php?productid=573)
wut
Title: Re: Welcome Back Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 15, 2008, 12:27:40 am
wtf does a horse have to do with it?

unicornz & rainbowz (http://unicorns.com/store/image.php?productid=573)
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/14/zomfgijustg128605516009582056.jpg)
Title: Re: Happyland Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 15, 2008, 12:40:31 am
again,

wut
Title: Re: Holy Freaking Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 15, 2008, 12:57:29 am
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/14/iizinurmind128605534452612211.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome Back Crap!!!
Post by: toastisgood on July 15, 2008, 06:12:11 pm
wtf does a horse have to do with it?

unicornz & rainbowz (http://unicorns.com/store/image.php?productid=573)
(http://images.icanhascheezbumrger.com/completestore/2008/7/14/zomfgijustg128605516009582056.jpg)
oh i get it!you took out 'wut' and put that image to make it look like i understood it!If that's the case then here
wtf does a horse have to do with it?
Nothing at all.
;D
Title: Re: I'm touched - Crap!!!
Post by: player1 on July 15, 2008, 07:06:10 pm
wtf does a horse have to do with it?

unicornz & rainbowz (http://unicorns.com/store/image.php?productid=573)
i got it!
oh i get it!you took out 'wut' and put that image to make it look like i understood it!If that's the case then here
wtf does a horse have to do with it?
Nothing at all.
;D


-snif-  :'( (http://members.tripod.com/~sugar_31/index-13.html)
Title: Re: u owe
Post by: fleash eater on February 22, 2009, 07:01:38 am
OBJECTION! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2607697)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: mooseberry on February 22, 2009, 07:18:10 am
ummm... what?
Title: wat
Post by: Archangel on February 22, 2009, 08:23:30 am
(http://www.sacredsites.com/asia/laos/images/wat_si_bun_heuang_02_H_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Aptly-named Thread.
Post by: Kaine on February 22, 2009, 09:21:54 am
Unrelated necro (http://jj.am/gallery/d/33777-1/ThreadNecro.jpg).

That's Henner's line bud...
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: fleash eater on February 22, 2009, 09:43:31 pm
oops, didnty mean to post that sorry!
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: nekronuke on February 22, 2009, 10:38:35 pm
i think i just CRAPPED MY PANTS!!!!11!
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: mooseberry on February 23, 2009, 12:12:16 am
and made it on to page 5
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: nekronuke on February 23, 2009, 11:03:25 pm
YAY! first post (kinda)
Title: Re: Crap!!!
Post by: Archangel on February 23, 2009, 11:46:13 pm
No. Not first post. Not even close to it.