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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: amz181 on September 04, 2008, 09:41:03 pm

Title: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: amz181 on September 04, 2008, 09:41:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOMIco6hiIc

Stannum made this vid obviously, and the choopers are amazing :O :D

thoughts?

Notice the new particle effect for the mass driver, and as for the goon choppers, you can just see them when stan evolves into a good (obviously theyre not finished. Apart from that all other choppers are shown.

EDIT: soz if this is wrong section, i only just noticed i posted it in general...


Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: rotacak on September 04, 2008, 09:55:54 pm
Nice. Only one thing missing there. When alien hit human, then blood will splash. But when hit buildable (good example is medi), then nothing. Would be nice some sparks there :-) While rushing it can be very effective.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on September 04, 2008, 10:25:02 pm
i like the claws as much as i dislike the scoped rifle.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Odin on September 04, 2008, 11:43:51 pm
That's no rifle.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on September 05, 2008, 12:05:28 am
That's no rifle.

that's exactly my problem with it :-)
it seems like a sniper rifle, however, in a futuristic universe, there should be no place for anything like that. MD is a MASSive energy weapon. therefore, it should be massive, and energetic. what we see is a sniper rifle.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Stannum on September 05, 2008, 12:34:26 am
The fov makes it look a lot slimmer/longer than it really is. All q3 based games have this unless they render the weapon in a different fov. Viewed in a more ideal fov (60-70) it looks a lot better.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: sticks on September 05, 2008, 01:30:46 am
Wow! Very nicely done, good job to all the devs looks like 1.2 is coming along nicely.  ;)
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Odin on September 05, 2008, 01:51:28 am
That's no rifle.

that's exactly my problem with it :-)
it seems like a sniper rifle, however, in a futuristic universe, there should be no place for anything like that. MD is a MASSive energy weapon. therefore, it should be massive, and energetic. what we see is a sniper rifle.
The MD(as well as all other guns in Tremulous) were anchored further back in the view so that you wouldn't notice that there are no hands. You can tell because the Blaster is so close it's almost as if you're holding it up to your ear.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on September 05, 2008, 02:27:50 am
i already realised that the MD is virtually like almost one and a half meters long :-)

no offence, i just whined about the look of the weapon, what has nothing to do with rendering restrictions or anything technical. i just don'T like the feeling that at a sci+fi game there is a gun that is very similar to present day guns.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Amanieu on September 05, 2008, 02:58:34 am
Will you release the models when they are done or will you wait for 1.2 to release them?
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Lakitu7 on September 05, 2008, 03:10:48 am
Great work. New models and assets for 1.2 are definitely a great benefit. This gives me more of the AVP aliens vibe. :)

Will you release the models when they are done or will you wait for 1.2 to release them?

I suggest waiting until 1.2 unless you want a bunch of ingrates slapping their name on them and throwing them into use immediately.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Paradox on September 05, 2008, 04:09:34 am
:)
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Lava Croft on September 05, 2008, 05:59:47 am
The Marauder zap attack is totally awesome! Gogo Stannum!
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Kaleo on September 05, 2008, 11:25:39 am
My pants = Creamed
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: amz181 on September 05, 2008, 04:53:25 pm
My pants = Creamed

Lol!  ;D

lava> I know, it look absaloutely tasty!

Im not sure if its just my inexperience. But do the adv attacks always go faster?
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: daenyth on September 05, 2008, 08:31:37 pm
Wow, amazing! I love it.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: floww on September 05, 2008, 09:01:13 pm
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sy3x3wnViQ

looks really cool

but im not sure if it will be popular as like the official.

its just as like Tremx
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Stannum on September 06, 2008, 02:30:38 am
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sy3x3wnViQ

looks really cool

but im not sure if it will be popular as like the official.

its just as like Tremx

?

These are official 1.2 models
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Plague Bringer on September 06, 2008, 02:46:54 am
That MD getting some new noises? It just doesn't sound right, not powerful enough.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: sticks on September 06, 2008, 05:05:13 am
I agree, nothing really sounds so "massive" about the mass driver :p
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: mooseberry on September 06, 2008, 06:03:02 am
Great work! Can't wait until the textures are finished, and (hopefully) the scope is shown in action.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Odin on September 06, 2008, 06:49:22 am
Well if it had a real mass driver sound it would probably deafen your entire team if you fired it.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: kozak6 on September 06, 2008, 09:05:15 am
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3053/605480thumbsupwithclippck3.jpg)
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Kaleo on September 06, 2008, 10:11:15 am
Well if it had a real mass driver sound it would probably deafen your entire team if you fired it.

It would also probably decimate the entire building.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Samurai.mac on September 06, 2008, 12:24:33 pm
Actually, since it's meant to be fired using magnets (I think) firing the weapon should be quite quiet.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: amz181 on September 06, 2008, 01:35:32 pm
New MD pics, its a textured and coloured model, and i think that those complaints about the MD not looking sci-fi enough should dissapear now. The texturing makes alot of difference.

credit goes to mooseberry for finding this and ofcourse the trem staff (obviously


(http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig6.jpg)

http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig3.jpg
http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig4.jpg
http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig5.jpg
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Plague Bringer on September 06, 2008, 04:07:43 pm
The mass driver is a particle weapon, right? Toss the clip. Model a battery!
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: sticks on September 06, 2008, 04:12:59 pm
Texture looks great, definitely eliminates the sci fi complaints from me  :)
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: mooseberry on September 06, 2008, 04:13:12 pm
Quote
A portable particle accelerator which causes minor nuclear reactions at the point of impact.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Samurai.mac on September 06, 2008, 04:35:20 pm
I may have said this before, but why is the Mass Driver an energy weapon in Tremulous? That doesn't make sense!
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on September 06, 2008, 05:06:07 pm
Because it needs energy to accelerate particles? I guess it depends how you define particle, cuz I think it is meant to use subatomic particles.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Lava Croft on September 06, 2008, 05:34:31 pm
Tremulous is not a scientific simulation, it's a computergame. In computergames, Rocket Launchers can shoot bunnies, without the need for scientific backing.

In other words: Stop whining.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: amz181 on September 06, 2008, 06:17:15 pm
New MD pics, its a textured and coloured model, and i think that those complaints about the MD not looking sci-fi enough should dissapear now. The texturing makes alot of difference.

credit goes to mooseberry for finding this and ofcourse the trem staff (obviously


(http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig6.jpg)

http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig3.jpg
http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig4.jpg
http://milesmac.com/blogs/media/blogs/tremnews/images/mdriverig5.jpg

for those who didnt see...

and wouldnt it be a good idea to have a sticky called "Tremulous 1.2 collected information" or something along those lines, and have the future models and things that will be included in 1.2 or future releases..?

Mooses site is really good, but not alot of people know about it... So maybe a sticky?
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Lava Croft on September 06, 2008, 06:21:35 pm
I guess people will starting whining about the colour brown soon!

[PS]Love how the skin is coming along, perfectly in line with the rest of the artwork.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: mooseberry on September 06, 2008, 07:24:05 pm
It looks heavy.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: cactusfrog on September 06, 2008, 07:36:38 pm
Wow nice work a large improvement over the current mas driver. One question is there scoping animation?
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Samurai.mac on September 06, 2008, 07:38:54 pm
I wasn't whining, I was simply saying that the name doesn't fit with what the weapon actually does.

PS. I'd prefer in it green, please!
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: mooseberry on September 06, 2008, 07:55:29 pm
(http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/a/a1/MassDriverMFC-EN-C.jpg)
It's a real card... I found it google imagining mass driver.  ;)
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Bissig on September 06, 2008, 08:18:36 pm
I may have said this before, but why is the Mass Driver an energy weapon in Tremulous? That doesn't make sense!

In a way it is both:

It needs a mass as the payload and it uses (electrical) energy to accelerate the particles/mass.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Odin on September 06, 2008, 09:19:20 pm
The Tremulous mass-driver could just collect dust from the air, compact it, then fire it with electromagnets powered by an atomic battery.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Death On Ice on September 07, 2008, 01:31:06 am
New MD pics, its a textured and coloured model, and i think that those complaints about the MD not looking sci-fi enough should dissapear now. The texturing makes alot of difference.

credit goes to mooseberry for finding this
Mooses site is really good, but not alot of people know about it... So maybe a sticky?

Who said Mooseberry found it? (Stannum told me about it on IRC, I posted :P)
I pay for the site, that's why there are no ads :)
We have a topic here, it isn't stickied, correct.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: mooseberry on September 07, 2008, 01:55:16 am
Fix your quotes. And no, I didn't find that photo first. It's his site too.  ;) (actually a tiny bit more considering he owns it.)  :D
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: cactusfrog on September 07, 2008, 08:52:31 am
just wondering what would happen if i stood in front of a real mass driver when it was going off
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2008, 10:19:37 am
It definitely looks much better now with proper texturing, it looks pretty great actually.

I'm glad we're starting to get some visible updates for Trem 1.2, and it should stop some whining now that we can see that something is going on.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on September 07, 2008, 12:50:47 pm
much better, the texture added the weight of it.

just leave the scopes now, and it's superfine... imho.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Lava Croft on September 07, 2008, 01:01:30 pm
It's too bad one half of the skin is mirrored...
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Stannum on September 07, 2008, 01:39:46 pm
Not enough room on the vwep uvs to mirror the text correctly.
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: Lava Croft on September 07, 2008, 01:42:53 pm
Not enough room on the vwep uvs to mirror the text correctly.
Aha, so that's the reason you run into mirrored skins all the time in Quake3-games.
Meh, that sucks!

[insert godlike coder with perfect solution here]
Title: Re: Chopperz and Mass Driver Video Anyone?
Post by: amz181 on September 07, 2008, 01:54:06 pm
New MD pics, its a textured and coloured model, and i think that those complaints about the MD not looking sci-fi enough should dissapear now. The texturing makes alot of difference.

credit goes to mooseberry for finding this
Mooses site is really good, but not alot of people know about it... So maybe a sticky?

Who said Mooseberry found it? (Stannum told me about it on IRC, I posted :P)
I pay for the site, that's why there are no ads :)
We have a topic here, it isn't stickied, correct.

I knew some1 else ran the site, but i was feeling lazy soz. Ill make it up to you...look.... ALL HAIL DEATH ON ICE!!!!!

you should be more angry at moose lolz he didnt tell me that it was actually you who found it... :p