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Community => Servers => Server Admin Contacts => Topic started by: spectator on December 29, 2008, 01:39:21 am
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Server Name: X, A & M
Head Admins: Xspectator, Sex, Eyekey, Mahler23, Einstein.
Prefered Medium for Ban Appeals: http://xserverx.com/ (http://xserverx.com/) leave a comment or post in forums.
Location: Texas, USA.
Ip/Domain name:
72.36.153.139:50000 -> X
72.36.153.139:31337 -> A
72.36.153.139:30000 -> M
Description:
X: Crazy {Un}balanced Gameplay.
A: Tremulous with special powers features, !rollthedice, !powerup.
M: Humans vs Humans tremulous.
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I sincerely greet you with a hearty go fuck yourself.
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I sincerely greet you with a hearty go fuck yourself.
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Sorry to hear you don't like it. But I like it, and so do most players of tremulous.
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Sorry to hear you don't like it. But I like it, and so do most stupid players of tremulous.
Fixed. And it's not because your server have often people that most tremulous players like it.
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lock & clean plz
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Sorry to hear you don't like it. But I like it, and so do most stupid players of tremulous.
Fixed. And it's not because your server have often people that most tremulous players like it.
If it gives you any happiness to think that, go ahead and do so.
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Just delete some [] so you won't make newbies think "omg this game sucks balls blaster 1shot kill everything??!!?!?!"
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Just delete some [] so you won't make newbies think "omg this game sucks balls blaster 1shot kill everything??!!?!?!"
Its very obvious you never played on my servers, also this post isn't for suggestions, anyways No.
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omg human hit wall liek mara ?????????????
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Just delete some [] so you won't make newbies think "omg this game sucks balls blaster 1shot kill everything??!!?!?!"
Its very obvious you never played on my servers, also this post isn't for suggestions, anyways No.
I did. And I lol'd. Looks like co_ Natural Selection' maps with a lot of kikoololfunfun plugins. You show a very bad part of what Tremulous can be, you denature it.
I totally don't care your server have succes, you are proud of what kind of shit you are doing (HvH lolz go play q3 nubz) or that you thing it makes me happy to post that.
Idiot.
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Thing is guys, even though all of you believe that these servers are ruining Tremulous and making the overall game play retarded- theres nothing you could do about it. To me, it feels more more an escape from the drudgery of a normal game and if you want to spice things up a bit. Many games has servers like these, and it was bound to happen for Tremulous.
We should be thanking Spectator for spending his and his friend's time, money, and patience on hosting these servers. If you don't like it- don't play it. Its as simple as that, and if you don't play it, why bother to flame it? Because out of those 3 servers, theres atleast 100 other servers that is best suited for pure Tremulous gaming, and we all want that. You can flame and bitch as much as you want about this server, but its not going to get "scared" and put itself online.
It maybe retarded, it may be un-balanced, stupid, idiotic, un-ncessary and probably more, but its here to stay. I congratulate you on the success of your server and I thank you for hosting it so players like me and others could play on it and enjoy something different. I wish you goodluck on your future endeavors.
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@OP: Good luck with your servers, but remember that most people here (including myself) hate them.
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Spec, your servers are stopping those newbies who have potential from getting better.
/me Goes and flames KoR's and .:RK:.'s server threads too.
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i dunno, RK has an unlagged default settings server now. that's how I started my road to skill, on a server with the same settings they're currently running.
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Sorry to hear you don't like it. But I like it, and so do most players of tremulous.
Pure Bullshit.
Most players don't even know you exist, let alone the fucked up mods you run.
But since you pay for it, it's your right to run whatever you like :)
As long as you yourself have fun while doing it, fuck Yarou, Archangel, Colynn and any other preposterous retard that thinks she/he can dictate anything on a server they don't own.
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I've been playing this game longer than you have, so I'm pretty sure I know what Tremulous should be.
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The whole point of Tremulous is that it's open-source — you can mod, extend, convert, twist, whatever. While the letter servers are a bit extreme when it comes to that last one, it's well within the developers' rights. We don't have to agree with their ideas. Hell, didn't some people think TremFusion was evil?
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I've been playing this game longer than you have, so I'm pretty sure I know what Tremulous should be.
And You know that from playing... right. Move along. You completely missed the whole point. Come back when you are sober.
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Sorry to hear you don't like it. But I like it, and so do most players of tremulous.
Pure Bullshit.
Most players don't even know you exist, let alone the fucked up mods you run.
But since you pay for it, it's your right to run whatever you like :)
As long as you yourself have fun while doing it, fuck Yarou, Archangel, Colynn and any other preposterous retard that thinks she/he can dictate anything on a server they don't own.
+1
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I think it's cool that you choose to run popular Tremulous servers, but I still feel you should probably go fuck yourself or go play in traffic.
thx in advance
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(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2007/11/motivator7713611nt6.jpg) (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5151)
@OP: Dude, go fuck yourself. Your pathetic servers are a blight on this community. An unwanted bastard (http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/bastard)-child. Heresy.
inb4lock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHXgOxSGznE)
PS: Moderator (http://www.freewebs.com/funni-art/funny-moderator2.gif) cleanup crew can get bent too.
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(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2007/11/motivator7713611nt6.jpg) (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5151)
I lol'd.
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If you don't like it- don't play it. Its as simple as that
Unfortunately it isn't. Think of the newest addition to the Tremulous community, just downloaded the game and ran it. They see a page of blank names and boxes. They join one of these servers, get slapped about by the local admin team, play a game with zero attention paid to its balance and design, and they quit the game and delete it and never play it again. My game, whichever server it's on, suffers as a result.
By running a server you have an influence on the community and on Tremulous as a whole. By running a shitty server, you make Tremulous that little bit shittier.
I realise that legally speaking, whoever has the right to run whatever wherever. I am also quite sure that few people have done as much damage to Tremulous as irresponsible modders, and we as part of the community are perfectly justified in giving them a hard time about it.
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...which brings us to this question: what the hell are we going to do about it??
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Mock, harass, and abuse them mercilessly.
Thank god my trollage-talents have finally found an exceptable outlet.
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@Kaine: 8)
@Syntac:
Also, not playing there helps a lot. Hosting a non-nutty server would also contribute. But sure, jumping up and down and waving our arms while yelling loudly works, too. And of course, there is always benmachine's queitly sensible way of trying to reasonably demonstrate the error of their ways. So, while in the final analysis Caveman is right, I proudly defend the right of Yarou, Seffy, Kaine, and others to flame such a travesty of true Tremulous relentlessly.
@OP: I would thank you for providing three servers for Tremulous play, but then I remember Ultra Renegades for Tribes. Please end this foolishness and return to your senses.
@lavacano: It is traditional here at the Trem.net forums to break image tags when quoting (the clever posters like to add a brief descriptopn of the image instead, e.g. "my teacher's a n00b". And welcome to the forums.
Cheers!
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Hosting a non-nutty server would also contribute.
I disagree. There are lots of empty servers with stock settings.
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Point taken. I guess we have to fall back on harassment and flaming. :P
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I think the X, A, and M servers are a reaction to a much bigger problem that is not addressed on these forums at all.
The lack of incremental releases, an organized developer community, and general apathy have led to the absolute destruction of this game.
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I think the X, A, and M servers are a reaction to a much bigger problem that is not addressed on these forums at all.
The lack of incremental releases, an organized developer community, and general apathy have led to the absolute destruction of this game.
+1
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I think the X, A, and M servers are a reaction to a much bigger problem that is not addressed on these forums at all.
The lack of incremental releases, an organized developer community, and general apathy have led to the absolute destruction of this game.
It is addressed on these forums by all the ZOMG WHEN 1.2 COM OUT????? threads.
+1 for the rest
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I enjoy Tremulous thus I respect the devs in every way, except to what Yarou just intelligently said, its hard not to agree with him. Four years + No releases = Bad. Organized Developer Community, that I'm not sure, it looks fine to me, but I have a sense that the Devs are as excited as v1.2 as they are with dust bunnies.
But even that, Tremulous may be down, but its not out. Lets give the Devs our sincere support and hope that v1.2 can be enjoyable to veterans and newbies alike.
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I enjoy Tremulous thus I respect the devs in every way, except to what Yarou just intelligently said, its hard not to agree with him. Four years + No releases = Bad. Organized Developer Community, that I'm not sure, it looks fine to me, but I have a sense that the Devs are as excited as v1.2 as they are with dust bunnies.
But even that, Tremulous may be down, but its not out. Lets give the Devs our sincere support and hope that v1.2 can be enjoyable to veterans and newbies alike.
trem 1.1 is less than 3 years old, most of which you haven't been around for.
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trem 1.1 is less than 3 years old, most of which you haven't been around for.
And in 8 months, OpenArena made 4 releases. Therefore leileilol > Timbo.
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It's time for a demonstration of sigificant progress. ~3 years without a release tells me either nothing is happening or it's going very slowly.
Perhaps players would lose interest in these twisted servers if there were something more appealing.
Oh, and something else: Why hasn't Timbo posted here in a very long time?
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trem 1.1 is less than 3 years old, most of which you haven't been around for.
My bad and wrong. It doesn't matter, its still above 2 years since the release and that doesn't change the fact that development is taking quite long. Atleast it gives hope that v1.2 will un-reveal a huge bucket of changes and features.
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trem 1.1 is less than 3 years old, most of which you haven't been around for.
My bad and wrong. It doesn't matter, its still above 2 years since the release and that doesn't change the fact that development is taking quite long. Atleast it gives hope that v1.2 will un-reveal a huge bucket of changes and features.
I wouldn't count on it. It is a minor release (1.2 not 2.0). I still hope it will feature things like advanced map features along with better performance. But we will see.
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trem 1.1 is less than 3 years old, most of which you haven't been around for.
My bad and wrong. It doesn't matter, its still above 2 years since the release and that doesn't change the fact that development is taking quite long. Atleast it gives hope that v1.2 will un-reveal a huge bucket of changes and features.
I wouldn't count on it. It is a minor release (1.2 not 2.0). I still hope it will feature things like advanced map features along with better performance. But we will see.
how minor or major a release turns out to be is somewhat arbitrary, (by your logic 2.6.28 is a minor release with almost no new features), but half of your wish has already come true (cg_bounceparticles and cg_optimizeprediction can make a big difference depending on your system)
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but half of your wish has already come true (cg_bounceparticles and cg_optimizeprediction can make a big difference depending on your system)
So my crap Circeo 733 Mhz PC with an ATI RAGE 128 Pro card can have it's framerate increased by, how much? 20-30 frames? ;D
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but half of your wish has already come true (cg_bounceparticles and cg_optimizeprediction can make a big difference depending on your system)
So my crap Circeo 733 Mhz PC with an ATI RAGE 128 Pro card can have it's framerate increased by, how much? 20-30 frames? ;D
nothing, those patches help the cpu usage, but your graphics card still can't handle trem.
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hey guys m server is good server and most of people like it and that server is not working please tell what happened
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hey guys m server is good server and most of people like it and that server is not working please tell what happened
I believe the [M] Server (The one for Bots, right?) goes down often either because they're having hosting problems or noone goes on them often and it just becomes a waste of bandwidth. You may say that it should be on 24/7, but Spec is hosting 3 servers so bandwidth is precious. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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hey guys m server is good server and most of people like it and that server is not working please tell what happened
I believe the [M] Server (The one for Bots, right?) goes down often either because they're having hosting problems or noone goes on them often and it just becomes a waste of bandwidth. You may say that it should be on 24/7, but Spec is hosting 3 servers so bandwidth is precious. Correct me if I'm wrong.
you're wrong
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If something similar like this will be in new Tremulous version, then it solve all:
(http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6572/serbromh0.th.jpg) (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=serbromh0.jpg)
;)
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Rotacak, did that with photoshop or what? :P
It could work, then again since they're the official servers they could always be full, who knows...
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hao i get my srvr on ofishal srvr list plis
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If something similar like this will be in new Tremulous version, then it solve all:
(http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6572/serbromh0.th.jpg) (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=serbromh0.jpg)
;)
Haha *cannon on an official server.
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servers like these are very beneficial to the game.
think of them as a shit filter, they keep all the asstard players in one place.
keeps them from fucking up the real servers.
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trem 1.1 is less than 3 years old, most of which you haven't been around for.
And in 8 months, OpenArena made 4 releases. Therefore leileilol > Timbo.
Eh, if you take into consideration the type of game OpenArena is, and the fact that 99.9% of the coding work is already done for them, I would think those "releases" are nothing more than ioq3 merges and media changes. Tremulous has its own code to maintain and bugfix. It also has completely new player models/weapon models on the way which is a major overhaul of the existing media. The new media takes advantage of many new features in the Tremulous SVN compared to the old 1.1.0 code. All in all, Tremulous actually does take a much longer time to get a new update(to a finished product, which was 1.1.0) out the door compared to OpenArena which has essentially been a finished product for a very long time.
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Oh so it's just because Stannum is slacking off? The new weapon anim code is already done, they just need the new weapon models.
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Hendrich: yes, photoshop :-) Official servers probably will not be full (because there will not be maps like rotcannon and mission one ;D ). Anyway new player can start tremulous with original gameplay and after that he can join modded servers. When he start playing on bad server, then he can delete tremulous because it is "stupid game". Now new player don't have any chance to join standard server.
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Oh so it's just because Stannum is slacking off? The new weapon anim code is already done, they just need the new weapon models.
I didn't say that at all. Of course the weapon animation code is done, the models just need to have the animations.
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hey guys m server is good server and most of people like it and that server is not working please tell what happened
I believe the [M] Server (The one for Bots, right?) goes down often either because they're having hosting problems or noone goes on them often and it just becomes a waste of bandwidth. You may say that it should be on 24/7, but Spec is hosting 3 servers so bandwidth is precious. Correct me if I'm wrong.
you're wrong
They're at Softlayer afaik, and I used to host ~6 trem servers on a single cheap softlayer box. I never used more than 600gb/mo. You get 2000gb/mo in the cheapest plans, so it isn't bandwidth.
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hey guys m server is good server and most of people like it and that server is not working please tell what happened
You are lying when you start typing.
How can anybody like a server that is not running?
GTFO boon
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Oh so it's just because Stannum is slacking off?
Damn, Stannum, what do we pay you for?
oh wait :(
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hey guys m server is good server and most of people like it and that server is not working please tell what happened
We got under a DDOS attack 2 days ago, that make our server go off and also it wasted alot of BW, so i decided turn off the M server and C server down till next month when the BW meter resets to 0.
M server -> humans vs humans -> Yea Hendrich in old times this one runned a ambush mod
C Server -> Cat n Mouse beta.
They're at Softlayer afaik, and I used to host ~6 trem servers on a single cheap softlayer box. I never used more than 600gb/mo. You get 2000gb/mo in the cheapest plans, so it isn't bandwidth.
We are hosted at LayeredTech, we host 4 servers normally, we use 1400Gb/Month of BW when our limit its 1500. so yea its the BW.
Best Regards.
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Then cut down on the servers, concentrate on what you can do wholeheartedly and not half-arsed.
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To all M,X,A players/admins. There is a cool new fad going on called dodge the speeding cars! Go try it.
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I think the X, A, and M servers are a reaction to a much bigger problem that is not addressed on these forums at all.
The lack of incremental releases, an organized developer community, and general apathy have led to the absolute destruction of this game.
I disagree. I think these servers are a natural part of an open source codebase. People modify the code. Thats just what they do. I think the problem is that we harass these server admins instead of the person hosting the master server, which should be patched to only allow ascii characters or some such. R1CH did it, lots of people raised hell (including me :) )cause there'd been no forewarning and it didn't help people's suspicious nature that AKKA went immediately to the top ;) I do wish that patch had stayed in place though. No blank server names, no boxes. Put special characters (like {, etc at the end) Sure there would be AAAAAAA servers, but at least it looked somewhat sane.
The other thing that needs to change is the server browser. Seeing 10-15 of hundreds of servers kinda sucks and scrolling through all of that is terrible any way you look at it. It means that there will always be competition for those top listed spots. But no one has created an actual improvement to the existing server browser so a release of any kind still leaves us with that limitation. Sure there are fixes to the server browser, but they've been minor sort fixes. From what I hear the code for the server browser is ugly and messy. If the devs were more organized they could have someone rewrite the server browser; some will say. But you can't get unpaid devs to work on something they just don't want to work on. Organization or no, nobody has wanted to touch that beyond cosmetic fixes for a very long time.
However, as a first step I'd suggest we harass devs to get the master server patched. As a second step I'd suggest we harass anyone who complains about the server browser to do something about it, maybe someone will come up with a new one.
edit: they instead of the, DOH!
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Patching the master won't work. What should instead be done is this:
- Filter out non-printable chars
- Sort by ping
Therefore: Need a new release.
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Read my post. Patching the master server to filter out characters not only will work, it has worked. It was done and reverted because of how it was done which is to say completely without warning and resulting in a lot of servers vanishing from the list with no time to prepare and no reason why they vanished. As I understand it, it was done without any warning to anyone, including the dev team.
Sort by ping just means people then have to hit sort by players to find a populated server. Sorting by multiple fields, now that would be useful.
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typically I get new list, don't show empty servers, then sort by ping. albeit rarely.
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Read my post. Patching the master server to filter out characters not only will work, it has worked. It was done and reverted because of how it was done which is to say completely without warning and resulting in a lot of servers vanishing from the list with no time to prepare and no reason why they vanished. As I understand it, it was done without any warning to anyone, including the dev team.
It's very easy to make the server report a 'special' name to the master and the name with boxes to all clients. The master server only sends clients a list of IPs, the clients then query the servers to get the name.
Sort by ping just means people then have to hit sort by players to find a populated server. Sorting by multiple fields, now that would be useful.
Sort by ping + don't show empty servers.
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I suppose some people's thoughts about this can be looked at as a crying out of, "Stop playing there, play here instead," even though it is, to the best of my knowledge, fully within the rights of the hosts of the X, A, and M servers to do as they wish with their server. Still, it's looking quite true that these servers do less for the community when a new player goes into them than if the said new player had started by going into a non-modded server.
I myself have played from time to time at these servers, popping in once in a while. Usually, if I'm going to play at them, I do go to X. There, I find that having the high experience and skill that I do with 1.1 settings allows me, and definitely anyone else of even a few notches down in skill, to take almost full control of the flow of gameplay. Being able to take a marauder and annihilate almost a whole base full of 10 battlesuits can be fun, but the entertainment doesn't last for me.
Unless the hosts of these servers realize exactly HOW their servers affect the community, as compared to how much more inviting a start at a 1.1 server is, there really isn't any current "right" solution to this "problem."
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True. Servers like "X" has high influence, especially on new players. What can we actually do about it? Nothing thats in our power to affect it in the way we want it to. If Tremulous (Dare I say) ever does go down, one of the many contributing factors will be this server and the Granger's blood will be on the hands of people like Spec. Which is unfortunate to say, but I would be lying to myself if I said the opposite.
What we could do now is just enjoy what servers like these has to offer, hope for an improved server browser that could fix this and watch. :(
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You people should stop blaming all of trem's troubles on these servers. Bitching about them here won't help you. Instead you should go put more boxes in your server name so that new players will come to your server instead of theirs. (Oh and please don't bitch about how ugly the server list will look, just use a decent client)
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There are clients where I can actually see the server names instead of just boxes?!
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Tremfusion is a treatment, not the cure.
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Fair enough.
As long as we both agree that it most certainly isn't the problem.
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Patching the master won't work. What should instead be done is this:
- Filter out non-printable chars
- Sort by ping
Therefore: Need a new release.
Agreed 100%. The default sorting should be by ping, not server name. Filtering out non-printable chars is proper, but will not solve the problem. The next situation will be as you said:
Server Name :
AAA
AAAA
AAAAA
AAAAAA
A great server
Default sort by ping should help to discourage this. And yes, multi-field sort is a very good idea.
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Basically what everyone said about sort by ping. I would think by now a new client would be up on the trem.net just to do that.
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!rtd
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True. Servers like "X" has high influence, especially on new players. What can we actually do about it? Nothing thats in our power to affect it in the way we want it to. If Tremulous (Dare I say) ever does go down, one of the many contributing factors will be this server and the Granger's blood will be on the hands of people like Spec. Which is unfortunate to say, but I would be lying to myself if I said the opposite.
X is intended for noobs and people who suck to play.
And if tremulous ever did go down im more then certian someone would backwards code the master server like winmx did with the peer caches then send out instructions to modify the host file or recompile the client to use the new MS
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FuN is working on something similar but better! We have been working on it for months.
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Best of luck.
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!rtd
I bound that so people don't know when I get cool stuff:D
Anway, just my story of X pelase don't flame me.
I used to play on skittles, but after their serevr upgrade, it got vanished of my list! So I went to play on a different server. I played on X for idk 1-1.5 months then went onto some normal server. I then started as dretch then realised that without knowing it I had actually minorly improved my aim as a dretch on X. So yeah it's alright. I don't mind starting out on it, but for people who play on it non-stop then insult me when I pwn them on it saying I hack, go fuck yourselfs. Why would anyone hack on X? The hitbox or/ we you call it screwed anyway lol.
Me and my brother played on M a few days ago and were pissing ourselves because we kept on teaming on this person with a md :D.
Oh yeah A is probably the best server because the damage is still the same (I think) and it's pretty fun to be a godmode invisble dretch pwning up chain suits lawlz. :-*
My two cents, as you people seem to say here:D