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HalcyonNL

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Server not showing up in master list
« on: January 11, 2009, 09:28:39 pm »
Hey people,

I run a Tremulous server on Windows, people are able to connect to it by e.g. adding my IP to their favorites, but it doesn't show up in the master server list. The contents of tremserver.bat (the file I use to start the server):

tremded.exe +set dedicated 2 +exec server.cfg +set net_port 30720

BTW it sends heartbeats to the master server...

Any help? Thanks in advance,
Halcyon
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kevlarman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 09:46:48 pm »
the master server won't list any servers hidden behind a NAT, make sure you have port 30720 (udp) properly forwarded to your computer.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 10:32:30 pm »
I know the port is forwarded correctly, because people from outside my network can join. :S
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Caveman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 11:21:00 pm »
Check it again. Is it really both? UDP and TCP?
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 11:37:44 pm »
I tried "UDP" and "Any", but no success :(
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kevlarman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 01:53:24 am »
keep in mind that most NATs choke when both the source and destination ip is behind the nat, so you might not see your server even though everyone else can.
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mikelmao

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 06:54:02 am »
i have the same problem! How do i Disable the NAT?
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Caveman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 02:04:03 pm »
You don't want to disable NAT, else you'll have no internet on your boxes.
Just get rent a server somewhere.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 02:23:32 pm »
Quote from: kevlarman on January 12, 2009, 01:53:24 am
keep in mind that most NATs choke when both the source and destination ip is behind the nat, so you might not see your server even though everyone else can.

People outside of my network are also not able to see it.
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Caveman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 06:49:10 pm »
Maybe the MasterList finally found a way to keep those fracking home-nated-dsl-server unlisted. it would be great.
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 07:26:43 pm »
Except for people who like testing stuff. >____>
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 07:32:43 pm »
Quote from: Caveman on January 12, 2009, 06:49:10 pm
Maybe the MasterList finally found a way to keep those fracking home-nated-dsl-server unlisted. it would be great.

Yes very funny indeed :) Have you got a useful comment as well? -.-
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Archangel

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 02:35:34 am »
oh, if only that was true, so many less servers on the list <3
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2009, 03:26:21 am »
The empty servers give the devs the illusion that their game is famous.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 11:30:21 am »
I guess I'm too pushy when I ask to stop those posts about how great it would be to have no home-hosted servers in the list, and at least try to help?  ::)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 11:32:02 am by HalcyonNL »
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2009, 06:58:11 pm »
How can we help?
If dedicated 2 is set, and heartbeats are being sent, then is a nat problem.  Try temporally disabling your nat if you can, or tcp dump, preferably from both sides of the nat.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2009, 07:15:21 pm »
Two questions:

1 How do I disable NAT?
2 What do you mean by tcpdumping on both sides of the nat?

PS: I didn't demand people to help, my point was that it's better to at least try to help, instead of just saying how good it is not to solve the problem... Thanks to everyone that DOES help, though :)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 07:17:04 pm by HalcyonNL »
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Caveman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2009, 07:35:40 pm »
It usually helps to start the server with the ip you get from your provider and prtfwd all relevant ports.
But in order to get it working you need to have a basic understanding of networking.
Since you lack it, you are out of luck, and need to read up.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2009, 08:34:03 pm »
Quote from: Caveman on January 13, 2009, 07:35:40 pm
It usually helps to start the server with the ip you get from your provider and prtfwd all relevant ports.
But in order to get it working you need to have a basic understanding of networking.
Since you lack it, you are out of luck, and need to read up.

I did start with the ip I got from the provider and port forwarded all relevant ports...
I already know basic IP's, subnetting, etc, what specifically about networking should I read up on? I'd be happy to do it.
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2009, 10:17:20 pm »
Please make a screenshot of your routers port forwarding/nat config page and also do /ipconfig all in Windows console and post it.

Also, make SURE that any firewall is disabled. Be it the Windows firewall or things like Zonealarm etc...
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2009, 12:53:53 am »
Plug the computer straight into the modem with no router at all, and see if it works then.  If it does, its the NAT/router, if it doesn't, its the server.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2009, 01:03:51 pm »
Quote from: Bissig on January 13, 2009, 10:17:20 pm
Please make a screenshot of your routers port forwarding/nat config page and also do /ipconfig all in Windows console and post it.

Also, make SURE that any firewall is disabled. Be it the Windows firewall or things like Zonealarm etc...

Tremulous ports:



"ipconfig /all" output: (Dutch, so I hope you can figure it out. If you really can't, I'll try to translate it)
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Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP-configuratie

        Host-naam  . . . . . . . . . . . .: XPCOMPLEET1
        Primair DNS-achtervoegsel. . . . .:
        Knooppunttype . . . . . . . . . . : gemengd
        IP-routering ingeschakeld. . . . .: nee
        WINS-proxy ingeschakeld . . . . . : nee
        DNS-achtervoegselzoeklijst. . . . : lan

Ethernet-adapter Hamachi:

        Verbindingsspec. DNS-achtervoegsel:
        Beschrijving . . . . . . . . . . .:
          Hamachi Network Interface
        Fysiek adres. . . . . . . . . . . : 7A-79-05-97-C4-01
        DHCP ingeshakeld. . . . . . . . . : ja
        Autom. configuratie ingeschakeld. : nee
        IP-adres. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 5.151.196.1
        Subnetmasker. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
        Standaardgateway. . . . . . . . . :
        DHCP-server . . . . . . . . . . . : 5.0.0.1
        Lease verkregen . . . . . . . . . : zondag 11 januari 2009 18:08:03
        Lease verlopen . . . . . . . . .  : maandag 11 januari 2010 18:08:03

Ethernet-adapter LAN-verbinding:

        Verbindingsspec. DNS-achtervoegsel: lan
        Beschrijving . . . . . . . . . . .:
          SiS191 1000/100/10 Ethernet Device
        Fysiek adres. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-23-54-B9-2E-1C
        DHCP ingeshakeld. . . . . . . . . : ja
        Autom. configuratie ingeschakeld. : ja
        IP-adres. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.71
        Subnetmasker. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Standaardgateway. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DHCP-server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DNS-servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        Lease verkregen . . . . . . . . . : woensdag 14 januari 2009 4:15:25
        Lease verlopen . . . . . . . . .  : donderdag 15 januari 2009 4:15:25

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

The firewalls are turned off.

Quote from: David
Plug the computer straight into the modem with no router at all, and see if it works then.  If it does, its the NAT/router, if it doesn't, its the server.

I can't do that because I have a modem and router in one...

« Last Edit: January 14, 2009, 01:09:59 pm by HalcyonNL »
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Caveman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2009, 01:35:50 pm »
Excuse me, but where is the forwarding?
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 02:49:38 pm »
It's the first picture. The ports are forwarded to my computer on that port.

BTW Doesn't the fact that people outside my network can connect to my server mean that the port forwarding is right?
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2009, 02:58:11 pm »
Are you starting trem with +net_ip 192.168.1.71?  It may be trying to bind to the other interface.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2009, 03:04:25 pm »
Quote from: David on January 14, 2009, 02:58:11 pm
Are you starting trem with +net_ip 192.168.1.71?  It may be trying to bind to the other interface.

Thanks, but it didn't work :(
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Caveman

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 03:51:18 pm »
Quote from: HalcyonNL on January 14, 2009, 02:49:38 pm
It's the first picture. The ports are forwarded to my computer on that port.
That is exactly what that picture does not show.
I am not familiar with trigger-based "translation", but shouldn't there be at least a trigger and a destination IP?
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2009, 04:00:28 pm »
Quote from: Caveman on January 14, 2009, 03:51:18 pm
Quote from: HalcyonNL on January 14, 2009, 02:49:38 pm
It's the first picture. The ports are forwarded to my computer on that port.
That is exactly what that picture does not show.
I am not familiar with trigger-based "translation", but shouldn't there be at least a trigger and a destination IP?

Yes I know it's a very weird router. The main table shows to which computer the ports are forwarded, and it's "192.168.1.71" (which is the right computer).

And a question I asked ealier but didn't get any answer to; Doesn't the fact that people from outside of my network are able to join, say that the port forwarding is correct?
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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2009, 05:20:50 pm »
Quote from: HalcyonNL on January 14, 2009, 04:00:28 pm
And a question I asked ealier but didn't get any answer to; Doesn't the fact that people from outside of my network are able to join, say that the port forwarding is correct?

Yes, unless they are tunneled through that hamachi VPN.
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HalcyonNL

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Re: Server not showing up in master list
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2009, 05:40:10 pm »
Quote from: gimhael on January 14, 2009, 05:20:50 pm
Quote from: HalcyonNL on January 14, 2009, 04:00:28 pm
And a question I asked ealier but didn't get any answer to; Doesn't the fact that people from outside of my network are able to join, say that the port forwarding is correct?

Yes, unless they are tunneled through that hamachi VPN.


I can see why you think that, but no, Hamachi was turned off on both sides, and the other side didn't connect with the hamachi IP.
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