Is Tremulous's Team an amateur team ?

[bidubida]

Hello !
Il'll test some game for a web site where there are tests of amateur games. And, as i want to do a test for Tremulous, i want to know if Tremulous is an amateur game or a professional game.
I didn't see this informations in the website of tremulous, and if it was in the site, I presente my excuses.

Thank for your future answer.

PS : sorry for my bad english (i'm not perfect in english).

[Survivor]

Tremulous is the work of modders, mappers etc and as far as I know none of them have jobs in the game business.

[Boggy B]

Depends what you mean by 'amateur' and 'professional'. As far as I can see, it doesn't make money except in donations. Then again, it's professional *quality*, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the developers work (or have worked) in computer science/game dev

[Timbo]

I have worked in the games industry in the past and hope to again soon. Right now I'm doing embedded software for mobile devices.

[bidubida]

"Un jeu amateur est un jeu vidéo développé par un ou plusieurs particuliers en dehors du cadre d'une entreprise ou d'une organisation commerciale."
Wikipedia fr

In english it give :
"An amateur game is a video game developed by one or severals privates person out of the context of an enterprise or a trading-company."
(sorry if the translation is not perfect)

As I know the project Tremulous isn't commercial, and I think the team is a team of privates persons, the game must be amateur.
Now i would like to know if my thought is right. And if it is right, Tremulous is an amateur game.

[[db@]Megabite]

Your thoughts are probably right, but does that imply anything about quality? It does not take money to make a quality and/or fun game.
On the other hand there are a lot of companies that professionally produce a lot of s**t...

Danny

[raf]

does that imply anything about quality?

did he say _anything_ about quality?

[bidubida]

Yes, justly, I want to do a test for this game beacause I like it, and I will not tell a game has a bad quality if I like it  
And, Tremulous has a good quality  :wink:

[[db@]Megabite]

I just wanted to make clear that it does not play a role if the game is a commercial / professional or an amateur / freeware one. What really plays a role is that the game is a fun and quality one, I did not imply he implied anything!
Nothing more, nothing less...

Danny

[Teiman]

does that imply anything about quality?

did he say _anything_ about quality?

As this label "amateur" any sense? because I think Tremulous has anothing to do with "Amateur Porn" or "amateur robots".

I think Tremulous is a new breed of opensource games. The same breed as Nexuiz and Alien Arena. Good games with a very good engine (Quake3,Quake2+) that are good enough for any gamer and add a few open source goodies ...hee.. "features".

Labeling Tremulous amateur adds nothing, because is a new concept that combine the better genes from comercial software (the Quake3 engine) and the better genes from the open source community (the community thing, freedom, etc).

[raf]

what u r saying about trems quality might be true

but maybe u should look up amateur in a dictionary, u dont seem to get the real meaning of it

[tjw]

PS : sorry for my bad english (i'm not perfect in english).

Well, now you know that the word "amateur" is a loaded one

Even though the dictionary says one of the definitions is

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(noun) one who engages in a pursuit, study, science, or sport as a pastime rather than as a profession

which is obviously what you meant.  However the more popular usage tends to be more often:

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(adj) of inferiour quality, shitty, incompetent, or produced by a bunch of mindless jerks.


(Well, in American English anyway )

[Neo]

Trem would rank as amatuer as its as it isn't developed full time(i think) and the team don't earn a salary from it.

Just gotta be careful with context as in a job sense it should mean time/money in regards to it as compared to implying a distinct lack of effort going into it.

[[EVIL]Unknown]

As this label "amateur" any sense? because I think Tremulous has anothing to do with "Amateur Porn" or "amateur robots".

hey dont bring the porn into this...what did the porn ever do to u??

[tjw]

As this label "amateur" any sense? because I think Tremulous has anothing to do with "Amateur Porn" or "amateur robots".

hey dont bring the porn into this...what did the porn ever do to u??

I hope that's a rhetorical question.