(Fixed) Trem + ATi + WinXP = fail!

[n@p]

Yes, yes. You shouldn't redirect me to the search button, it's not the same old crap.

I've been playing Trem on Debian for a long time, just since I've finally installed Linux drivers for my Rad 9600. Had much fun and still do, but I decided to switch to WinXP for better performance. I remember installing Trem on WinXP about half a year ago and it worked nice. But then I reinstalled the system and updated my Catalyst to 9.1 and it gave me "couldn't load blablabla..." with a grey screen in 640x480. Then I made it to the Catalyst 9.3 - the latest one - and it failed even moar with your brand ne .zip package:

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AppName: tremulous-windows.exe  AppVer: 0.0.0.0  ModName: atioglxx.dll ModVer: 6.14.10.8543  Offset: 0051a66e

That's what Windows said on the crash.

I've heard of issues with OpenGL on new Cataclysms Catalysts so I rolled back to 8.11, which ended up giving me the same BS.

I'd appreciate your help, because it might save me from completely abandoning this ugly OS and gaming on it as well


EDITED: I've solved the issue, turned to be deeper than I supposed. Had to reinstall my mobo chipset drivers (GART specifically) on top of ATi video ones, it helped. Lock da thread, please.
Bullshat. It blew again, after next rebooting.

[Bissig]

It is not a fix, but you could try it on Windows7 RC1. Or you completely uninstall the ATI drivers with a driver removal software and reinstall the plain ATI drivers without the Catalyst crap.

[Winnie the Pooh]

Believe it or not, I have a mobility radeon 7500 with XP and I'm having problems as well. My problems are worse than yours though because at system os startup, the ATi driver doesn't even start up, leaving the system to hang with a black screen.

I tried going to ati and updating my driver and got the catalyst thing as well. It messed up my system even more. It seems catalyst (whatever the heck it is; I'm too lazy to wiki it right now) is incompatible with XP. I tried COMPLETELY uninstalling and re-installing the software but the problem remained.

I'm resorting to backing up my important files and re-formatting/re-installing my hard drive/Windows XP.

I know how you feel.

[n@p]

Believe it or not, I have a mobility radeon 7500 with XP and I'm having problems as well. My problems are worse than yours though because at system os startup, the ATi driver doesn't even start up, leaving the system to hang with a black screen.

I tried going to ati and updating my driver and got the catalyst thing as well. It messed up my system even more. It seems catalyst (whatever the heck it is; I'm too lazy to wiki it right now) is incompatible with XP. I tried COMPLETELY uninstalling and re-installing the software but the problem remained.

I'm resorting to backing up my important files and re-formatting/re-installing my hard drive/Windows XP.

I know how you feel.

Duh...wait a sec. Over teh intrawebz I saw the posts of hundreds of people having problems with ATi crapwork. I've tried 4-5 solutions, one of them worked. Tell please:
1) Can you run the OS in the safe mode?
2) What does dxdiag say?
3) Have you tried to install your motherboard chipset drivers again?

[Winnie the Pooh]

I didn't realize you replied.

This is the problem: http://www.modernstreet.com/general/ati2dvag-problem/

It seems to be non-specific as to which systems it messes with.

As to your questions, yes I did update my drivers.

Five Windows XP reinstalls and 3 Fedora 10 installations later, It's still not fixed. 

I'm really starting to hate my chipset.

Weirdest of all, it used to work completely FINE and the one day, BOOM it doesn't work anymore.

[n@p]

In my case such a sequence was helpful:
- COMPLETELY purge Catalyst and ATi drivers (so on the next reboot your Windows resorts to Vesa drivers and everything becomes ssssllllloooooowwwww )
- Reinstall your MB chipset drivers (so i guess, one more ugly reboot)
- Install ATi drivers, maybe not the latest (Catalyst 8.11 worked for me) - and you guess what you'll need to do next.

After reboot your system switches to ATi driver, agp accelerating sets to ON, and everything's fine...
...but then I rebooted to Debian to work a bit, and after starting XP again the same whole thing occurred. You guess I said fuck and left it alone.

[kevlarman]

any fglrx that supports r100 won't compile against any recent kernel (in fact i would be suprised if it compiles against any 2.6), on linux you'll need to use the radeon driver.

[Archangel]

yeah, you have to use the radeon driver. i used to use the same card.

[n@p]

any fglrx that supports r100 won't compile against any recent kernel (in fact i would be suprised if it compiles against any 2.6), on linux you'll need to use the radeon driver.

Noes, noes, kevlar, you got it a bit wrong . It makes crap on Windoze only. I've been happily playing Trem on me Sid 2.6.20->22->24->26 with ATi-not-fglrx drivers for a long time, and it's okay as well as q3, nexuiz etc.

Winnie, would you please give the details on wat is happening on yer Fedora related to the problem. I don't remember now, but maybe I've encountered these issues back then.

[Winnie the Pooh]

With Fedora 9 (not ten, I lied) there is no BSOD, so my screen borks up and freezes. (often right after boot-up)

Want the specs?

Here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-53178

Thinkpad r50, generally very reliable. GENERALLY.

But my mobility radeon card.. It's not so reliable right now.

[kevlarman]

any fglrx that supports r100 won't compile against any recent kernel (in fact i would be suprised if it compiles against any 2.6), on linux you'll need to use the radeon driver.

Noes, noes, kevlar, you got it a bit wrong . It makes crap on Windoze only. I've been happily playing Trem on me Sid 2.6.20->22->24->26 with ATi-not-fglrx drivers for a long time, and it's okay as well as q3, nexuiz etc.

which is exactly what i said to do, ati and radeon are the same driver in this particular case.