Author Topic: Alien evolving is unfair (Read 9711 times)

borsuk · « **on:** July 07, 2009, 06:51:08 pm »

Unlike humans who need an armory, aliens can evolve just about anywhere. There's just one limitation - you can't be too close to enemies, which is perhaps ok to keep things sane (dretch next to you evolves to dragoon). However, it's very annoying when humans are attacking alien base and you just can't evolve. Humans could use armoury in analogous situation.
I suggest that it should be changed somehow. Either restrict alien evolving to creep (this would be consistent with 1.2 notion of making aliens more base dependant), or keep things as they are now with one small change. Aliens next to important structures like Overmind can evolve at all times, even with humans around.

Ban on evolving is very annoying on maps where you just can't move away sometimes, like atcs.

KillerWhale · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2009, 07:19:29 pm »

Humans != Aliens

Bissig · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2009, 07:38:42 pm »

I agree.

Not being able to evolve five inches from your OM is plain annoying and fucking stupid. F.e. On Niveus one human outside blocks almost the entire area of the window room for aliens to evolve. Now, give that human a flamethrower and no alien can leave alive.

There should be a range around the OM where aliens can evolve at all times.

Archangel · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2009, 08:32:46 pm »

uh, iirc, there is, and has been for a long time. at least i remember there being a patch for this quite a long time ago.

benmachine · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2009, 04:38:47 am »

Patch for this was indeed written a long time ago, but never used. Because, lest we forget:

Quote from: KillerWhale on July 07, 2009, 07:19:29 pm

Humans != Aliens

If you have a base that can be locked down by a single human with a flamethrower then I suggest you find a better base

Dracone · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2009, 03:57:06 am »

Nothing wrong with aliens evolving wherever they want (barring too close to enemies). Competent humans know to chase aliens and do enough damage to make the alien's evolution produce an inefficient result. If you don't have a weapon for chasing, then run the other fucking way. If you don't manage to get enough damage in before it evolves, well that's that then. And if it regroups with other aliens who prevent you from stopping it from evolving efficiently and rape you and your pals, then you should've done some scouting before chasing lures.

Of course, who gives a fuck in public games. No one should even give a shit what team wins in a public game, because shit happens and it's not the game's fault.

Chomps123 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:46:26 am »

one other thing I want to add about evolving.

when also near the om you can disolve also(ex. tyrant-adv. granger)

A Spork · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:20:51 am »

^Being able to devolve would be nice, but otherwise I think Alien Evolving is fine

Mew · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2009, 09:23:55 pm »

yeah. devolving next to the om would be nice. like in arcade's mod

Paradox · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2009, 12:25:14 am »

p-g-qvm used to have this way back when.

Mew · « **Reply #10 on:** August 20, 2009, 12:31:42 am »

what happened to it?

WhiteFang#68 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2009, 05:50:42 pm »

Alien Evolving should not be consealed by human presence. Because in real life, a bird egg will hatch before you very eyes wont it?

And also during game play. i always seeing that human run to armoury grab a Luci and turn around just in time to kill that last tyrant that didn't die.

CreatureofHell · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2009, 06:42:40 pm »

Quote from: WhiteFang#68 on October 19, 2009, 05:50:42 pm

Alien Evolving should not be consealed by human presence. Because in real life, a bird egg will hatch before you very eyes wont it?

And also during game play. i always seeing that human run to armoury grab a Luci and turn around just in time to kill that last tyrant that didn't die.

So do you think that, if an alien has space, it should be able to evolve right in the middle of the human base?

janev · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2009, 06:50:32 pm »

Quote from: CreatureofHell on October 19, 2009, 06:42:40 pm

Quote from: WhiteFang#68 on October 19, 2009, 05:50:42 pm
Alien Evolving should not be consealed by human presence. Because in real life, a bird egg will hatch before you very eyes wont it?

And also during game play. i always seeing that human run to armoury grab a Luci and turn around just in time to kill that last tyrant that didn't die.

So do you think that, if an alien has space, it should be able to evolve right in the middle of the human base?

In the interest of equality I demand to be allowed to buy grenades while in the alien base since aliens get to evolve everywhere! (that would mean I no longer need a friend to build me an armoury beside overmind

)

mooseberry · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2009, 08:01:00 pm »

Quote from: WhiteFang#68 on October 19, 2009, 05:50:42 pm

...Because in real life, a bird egg will hatch before you very eyes wont it?...

The fuck does that have to do with anything?

ShadowNinjaDudeMan · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2009, 11:47:11 pm »

Quote from: WhiteFang#68 on October 19, 2009, 05:50:42 pm

Alien Evolving should not be consealed by human presence. Because in real life, a bird egg will hatch before you very eyes wont it?

And also during game play. i always seeing that human run to armoury grab a Luci and turn around just in time to kill that last tyrant that didn't die.

He means that you're presence around a bird's egg will not stop it hatching if the time is right and the embryo has enough evos.
But I think you are too heavily reliant on REALISM.
Take a look around, we have no use of it here.
(in layman terms: the ALIENS and most of the GUNS).

And White Fang, about the human, that is one lucky bastard. And a kill-stealer. But that can be forgiven when all is going to hell in a handbasket.

Paradox · « **Reply #16 on:** October 21, 2009, 03:53:14 am »

Human weapons are unfair. The poor aliens have to get up close to the humans, while the humans can just shoot them from across the map.

Repatition · « **Reply #17 on:** October 21, 2009, 05:13:44 am »

thats why alien evolve and human shoot!

Demolution · « **Reply #18 on:** October 21, 2009, 06:20:58 am »

Protoss are totally unfair because they have rechargeable shields! Nerf them please!

Repatition · « **Reply #19 on:** October 21, 2009, 06:22:42 am »

Quote from: Demolution on October 21, 2009, 06:20:58 am

Protoss are totally unfair because they have rechargeable shields! Nerf them please!

protoss?

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #20 on:** October 21, 2009, 12:32:23 pm »

Quote from: Repatition on October 21, 2009, 06:22:42 am

protoss?

oh, dear.
go play video games, earn the title of gamer and come back when you have knowledge.

Paradox · « **Reply #21 on:** October 21, 2009, 11:36:21 pm »

Havn't used this in a long time:

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Author Topic: Alien evolving is unfair (Read 9711 times)

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