Spawn Killing Right or wrong

[Pie Puncher]

Spawn Killing:Just appeared then bang goon jumps u
                   u appear again then bang tyrant gets u
                   It just keeps happenin again and AGAIN

[Neo]

Depends on how you define spawn killing, but i'll assume you mean when there is a perfectly destroyable telenode but they leave it alone to kill humans as they spawn. This is wrong

I'm getting tired of humans at the end of a game whining about spawn killing, when the only way to win is to kill the nodes and humans have a habit of spawning and blocking your hits.

[Yawn]

I won't vote on this, because it is not as black and white as that.
Unfortunatly, you are required to kill any humans standing on telenodes before you can damage the node.
People always whine and complain about spawn killing, but 9/10ths of the time it's just someone trying to kill the node.
Do you honestly expect us to ignore the person shooting as us, so that we can keep chomping on the node? Sure... sometimes you can do that.. but when you are low on health, you want that person to DIE... so that you can get back to the node.

Now, if it's just someone camping for kills... then yes, this is lame(unless, your aliens.. and you build an egg someone out in the middle of nowhere.. and a human is camping it.. then it's just smart)

-Y

[Stof]

Spawn killing for kills is right. It's the humans own fault for leaving an unprotected spawn. It's the aliens entire right to camp the node and get as many kills as possible for evo points or for stage advances.

Of course, it's sometimes stupid not to kill the spawn when it drags out a game which is already won by the aliens but except from that, it's a valid tactic.

PS : and the aliens complaining that humans complain about the spawn killing just have to stand on the spawn while killing it and voila, no more humans will spawn.

[Henners]

Spawn killing is part of the game, and is a legitimate tactic.

To be able to do it, you have to find an isolated spawn, and if you can do that, it really is the other team fault. A lot of the time is occurs after badly done base moves.

It can also be stopped by anyone spawning as a builder and immediately deconning the spawn....


The only exception is spawn camping the last spawn at the end of the map. Thats just stupid.

[Survivor]

Spawn killing is part of the game, and is a legitimate tactic.
To be able to do it, you have to find an isolated spawn, and if you can do that, it really is the other team fault. A lot of the time is occurs after badly done base moves.
It can also be stopped by anyone spawning as a builder and immediately deconning the spawn....
The only exception is spawn camping the last spawn at the end of the map. Thats just stupid.

Completely agree with this.
Spawncamping is especially legit when the other team is s1 or s2. You left open a tactical opportunity for them to stage up and they are allowed to take it. It's your job to not let it happen.

[[db@]Megabite]

100% ACK. It is a tactical game and as long as you don't cheat it is your right to use a tactical advantage like an unprotected spawn.

Danny

[rasz_pl]

I just LOVE human builder moving reactor first, then turrets/armory/medi and leaving telenodes for me to sit on

[vcxzet]

I just LOVE human builder moving reactor first, then turrets/armory/medi and leaving telenodes for me to sit on

DRETCH!

[Glunnator]

Lolz i think Spawn killing is ok... as long as it dousn't take too long!!!
IF IT DOES GO ON FOR TOO LONG I GET ANGRY!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

...Even if it IS me doing the killing... :eek:

[Stasis]

Needs more telefragging

[Pie Puncher]

I mean when a goon just sits there killing for know reason at end of game

[PHREAK]

Well, spawn killing is a shade of gray when it comes to being right or wrong.
I'll let the other aliens feed for a bit, 10 kills or so, then I kill the spawn with my goon.
As far as egg camping, thats one of the things I hate later on in game, but support in S1.
Every time I see a bsuit camping an egg, I get angry, since that same Bsuit does not need the kills and is simply going for a hight kill score. Same goes for tyrants camping nodes.

[vcxzet]

How can something so wrong feel so right

[Paradox]

Just dont spawn. If you see them blocking nodes, or know they are blocking nodes, just wait it out, get a soda.

[Chaos Weevil]

If you're trying to kill the spawn, then yes.

But it's really annoying when there's a Dragoon hovering over the last Node, and something like this happens:
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Goon: *Waits*
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Rinse and repeat.  I yelled at him for it, he said he was trying to kill the node, so I Speced the thing and he only attacked right after someone spawned.  That is wrong.

But if you happen to wander across an Egg and a Granger is just coming out of it, then SHOOT THE FRAGGIN THING!

[trigger happy]

If you're trying to kill the spawn, then yes.

But it's really annoying when there's a Dragoon hovering over the last Node, and something like this happens:
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Goon: *Waits*
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Rinse and repeat.  I yelled at him for it, he said he was trying to kill the node, so I Speced the thing and he only attacked right after someone spawned.  That is wrong.

But if you happen to wander across an Egg and a Granger is just coming out of it, then SHOOT THE FRAGGIN THING!

If they do that with last spawn, just decon or wait till their off their gaurd spawn and run.

[Lava Croft]

Spawncamping is only caused by lack of smart builders.

[DIGI_Byte]

YOU NEED TO HAVE A 2 SECOND INVULNERABILITY THING to give a chance to the humans and also the bugs structures health is a little lowyou can take out a acid pod easy with a few shot of the rifle

[kozak6]

Spawn invulnerability isn't needed.

If an alien is enjoying the Telenode Buffet, it means the humans messed up badly.  Chances are, it also means that defeat is imminent for the human team anyways.

[Howitzer]

It depends on the general mood of the game.
I can have a fun game where we all just have fun instead of playing seriously and then we destroy all human structures except for 1 telenode and kill 2 or 3 spawned dudes.
It's just funny, under the right circumstances that is.

[rasz_pl]

It depends on the general mood of the game.
I can have a fun game where we all just have fun instead of playing seriously and then we destroy all human structures except for 1 telenode and kill 2 or 3 spawned dudes.
It's just funny, under the right circumstances that is.

noo, thats just wrong. The real definition of a fun is when I alone (they killed all the eggs and ocz_girl early ) rape S1 humans (maci, MWA, and some 2 other dudes) on Gloom2 till I get a Tyrr, then keep maci in water tank as a pet :], then kill all the base structures, then blow up MWAs reactor to kill him (he was on pipes = out of reach for a Tyrr), and then kill my aquarium pet maci who tried to flee :]

[Rippy]

I don't think it's fair to have to die 10 times just because a newbie builder on your team put a telenode up in a remote location. So spawn camping gets a no.

I do agree though, everyone complains about spawn camping when all you're doing is taking down the egg/telenode. I found a remote egg once, started Luci-ing it, and before i got it down there were two zerglings - i mean, dretches who spawned, and one granger. Naturally I kill them to stay alive, and by the time I finally get the egg down (got about one shot on it before another guy spawned there), the chat is flooded with "SPAWN CAMPER" "FAG" "GAY" ... e_e

[Lava Croft]

noo, thats just wrong. The real definition of a fun is when I alone (they killed all the eggs and ocz_girl early ) rape S1 humans (maci, MWA, and some 2 other dudes) on Gloom2 till I get a Tyrr, then keep maci in water tank as a pet :], then kill all the base structures, then blow up MWAs reactor to kill him (he was on pipes = out of reach for a Tyrr), and then kill my aquarium pet maci who tried to flee :]

Too bad it's so hard to prove any of this, you bag of wind.

[rasz_pl]

noo, thats just wrong. The real definition of a fun is when I alone (they killed all the eggs and ocz_girl early ) rape S1 humans (maci, MWA, and some 2 other dudes) on Gloom2 till I get a Tyrr, then keep maci in water tank as a pet :], then kill all the base structures, then blow up MWAs reactor to kill him (he was on pipes = out of reach for a Tyrr), and then kill my aquarium pet maci who tried to flee :]

Too bad it's so hard to prove any of this, you bag of wind.

just ask crz_Girl, maci or MWA, I dont remember 2 other nicks
crz_Girl will remember :] you bag of christmas presents you

[kozak6]

I don't think it's fair to have to die 10 times just because a newbie builder on your team put a telenode up in a remote location. So spawn camping gets a no.

So then spawn with a ckit and decon as soon as you spawn.