Author Topic: Spawn Killing Right or wrong (Read 8609 times)

Pie Puncher · « **on:** July 16, 2006, 10:00:04 am »

Spawn Killing:Just appeared then bang goon jumps u
u appear again then bang tyrant gets u
It just keeps happenin again and AGAIN

Neo · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:04:57 am »

Depends on how you define spawn killing, but i'll assume you mean when there is a perfectly destroyable telenode but they leave it alone to kill humans as they spawn. This is wrong

I'm getting tired of humans at the end of a game whining about spawn killing, when the only way to win is to kill the nodes and humans have a habit of spawning and blocking your hits.

Yawn · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:31:59 am »

I won't vote on this, because it is not as black and white as that.
Unfortunatly, you are required to kill any humans standing on telenodes before you can damage the node.
People always whine and complain about spawn killing, but 9/10ths of the time it's just someone trying to kill the node.
Do you honestly expect us to ignore the person shooting as us, so that we can keep chomping on the node? Sure... sometimes you can do that.. but when you are low on health, you want that person to DIE... so that you can get back to the node.

Now, if it's just someone camping for kills... then yes, this is lame(unless, your aliens.. and you build an egg someone out in the middle of nowhere.. and a human is camping it.. then it's just smart)

-Y

Stof · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:41:06 am »

Spawn killing for kills is right. It's the humans own fault for leaving an unprotected spawn. It's the aliens entire right to camp the node and get as many kills as possible for evo points or for stage advances.

Of course, it's sometimes stupid not to kill the spawn when it drags out a game which is already won by the aliens but except from that, it's a valid tactic.

PS : and the aliens complaining that humans complain about the spawn killing just have to stand on the spawn while killing it and voila, no more humans will spawn.

Henners · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:55:09 am »

Spawn killing is part of the game, and is a legitimate tactic.

To be able to do it, you have to find an isolated spawn, and if you can do that, it really is the other team fault. A lot of the time is occurs after badly done base moves.

It can also be stopped by anyone spawning as a builder and immediately deconning the spawn....

The only exception is spawn camping the last spawn at the end of the map. Thats just stupid.

Survivor · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:59:38 am »

Quote from: "Henners"

Spawn killing is part of the game, and is a legitimate tactic.
To be able to do it, you have to find an isolated spawn, and if you can do that, it really is the other team fault. A lot of the time is occurs after badly done base moves.
It can also be stopped by anyone spawning as a builder and immediately deconning the spawn....
The only exception is spawn camping the last spawn at the end of the map. Thats just stupid.

Completely agree with this.
Spawncamping is especially legit when the other team is s1 or s2. You left open a tactical opportunity for them to stage up and they are allowed to take it. It's your job to not let it happen.

[db@]Megabite · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:16:31 am »

100% ACK. It is a tactical game and as long as you don't cheat it is your right to use a tactical advantage like an unprotected spawn.

Danny

rasz_pl · « **Reply #7 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:52:25 am »

I just LOVE human builder moving reactor first, then turrets/armory/medi and leaving telenodes for me to sit on

vcxzet · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:59:56 am »

Quote from: "rasz_pl"

I just LOVE human builder moving reactor first, then turrets/armory/medi and leaving telenodes for me to sit on

DRETCH!

Glunnator · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2006, 01:44:02 pm »

Lolz i think Spawn killing is ok... as long as it dousn't take too long!!!
IF IT DOES GO ON FOR TOO LONG I GET ANGRY!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

...Even if it IS me doing the killing... :eek:

Stasis · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2006, 06:08:18 pm »

Needs more telefragging

Pie Puncher · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2006, 06:23:08 pm »

I mean when a goon just sits there killing for know reason at end of game

PHREAK · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2006, 07:47:52 pm »

Well, spawn killing is a shade of gray when it comes to being right or wrong.
I'll let the other aliens feed for a bit, 10 kills or so, then I kill the spawn with my goon.
As far as egg camping, thats one of the things I hate later on in game, but support in S1.
Every time I see a bsuit camping an egg, I get angry, since that same Bsuit does not need the kills and is simply going for a hight kill score. Same goes for tyrants camping nodes.

vcxzet · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2006, 08:03:03 pm »

How can something so wrong feel so right

Paradox · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2006, 09:08:00 pm »

Just dont spawn. If you see them blocking nodes, or know they are blocking nodes, just wait it out, get a soda.

Chaos Weevil · « **Reply #15 on:** July 18, 2006, 12:42:44 am »

If you're trying to kill the spawn, then yes.

But it's really annoying when there's a Dragoon hovering over the last Node, and something like this happens:
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Goon: *Waits*
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Rinse and repeat. I yelled at him for it, he said he was trying to kill the node, so I Speced the thing and he only attacked right after someone spawned. That is wrong.

But if you happen to wander across an Egg and a Granger is just coming out of it, then SHOOT THE FRAGGIN THING!

trigger happy · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2006, 12:58:15 am »

Quote from: "Chaos Weevil"

If you're trying to kill the spawn, then yes.

But it's really annoying when there's a Dragoon hovering over the last Node, and something like this happens:
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Goon: *Waits*
Human: *Spawns*
Goon: *Chomp*
Rinse and repeat. I yelled at him for it, he said he was trying to kill the node, so I Speced the thing and he only attacked right after someone spawned. That is wrong.

But if you happen to wander across an Egg and a Granger is just coming out of it, then SHOOT THE FRAGGIN THING!

If they do that with last spawn, just decon or wait till their off their gaurd spawn and run.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2006, 04:24:29 pm »

Spawncamping is only caused by lack of smart builders.

DIGI_Byte · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:18:37 am »

YOU NEED TO HAVE A 2 SECOND INVULNERABILITY THING to give a chance to the humans and also the bugs structures health is a little lowyou can take out a acid pod easy with a few shot of the rifle

kozak6 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:29:44 am »

Spawn invulnerability isn't needed.

If an alien is enjoying the Telenode Buffet, it means the humans messed up badly. Chances are, it also means that defeat is imminent for the human team anyways.

Howitzer · « **Reply #20 on:** July 19, 2006, 12:23:04 pm »

It depends on the general mood of the game.
I can have a fun game where we all just have fun instead of playing seriously and then we destroy all human structures except for 1 telenode and kill 2 or 3 spawned dudes.
It's just funny, under the right circumstances that is.

rasz_pl · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2006, 12:38:49 pm »

Quote from: "Howitzer"

It depends on the general mood of the game.
I can have a fun game where we all just have fun instead of playing seriously and then we destroy all human structures except for 1 telenode and kill 2 or 3 spawned dudes.
It's just funny, under the right circumstances that is.

noo, thats just wrong. The real definition of a fun is when I alone (they killed all the eggs and ocz_girl early

) rape S1 humans (maci, MWA, and some 2 other dudes) on Gloom2 till I get a Tyrr, then keep maci in water tank as a pet :], then kill all the base structures, then blow up MWAs reactor to kill him (he was on pipes = out of reach for a Tyrr), and then kill my aquarium pet maci who tried to flee :]

Rippy · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2006, 01:50:21 pm »

I don't think it's fair to have to die 10 times just because a newbie builder on your team put a telenode up in a remote location. So spawn camping gets a no.

I do agree though, everyone complains about spawn camping when all you're doing is taking down the egg/telenode. I found a remote egg once, started Luci-ing it, and before i got it down there were two zerglings - i mean, dretches who spawned, and one granger. Naturally I kill them to stay alive, and by the time I finally get the egg down (got about one shot on it before another guy spawned there), the chat is flooded with "SPAWN CAMPER" "FAG" "GAY" ... e_e

Lava Croft · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:46:18 pm »

Quote from: "rasz_pl"

noo, thats just wrong. The real definition of a fun is when I alone (they killed all the eggs and ocz_girl early ) rape S1 humans (maci, MWA, and some 2 other dudes) on Gloom2 till I get a Tyrr, then keep maci in water tank as a pet :], then kill all the base structures, then blow up MWAs reactor to kill him (he was on pipes = out of reach for a Tyrr), and then kill my aquarium pet maci who tried to flee :]

Too bad it's so hard to prove any of this, you bag of wind.

rasz_pl · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:11:35 pm »

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Quote from: "rasz_pl"
noo, thats just wrong. The real definition of a fun is when I alone (they killed all the eggs and ocz_girl early ) rape S1 humans (maci, MWA, and some 2 other dudes) on Gloom2 till I get a Tyrr, then keep maci in water tank as a pet :], then kill all the base structures, then blow up MWAs reactor to kill him (he was on pipes = out of reach for a Tyrr), and then kill my aquarium pet maci who tried to flee :]

Too bad it's so hard to prove any of this, you bag of wind.

just ask crz_Girl, maci or MWA, I dont remember 2 other nicks

crz_Girl will remember :] you bag of christmas presents you

kozak6 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 20, 2006, 10:57:39 pm »

Quote from: "Rippy"

I don't think it's fair to have to die 10 times just because a newbie builder on your team put a telenode up in a remote location. So spawn camping gets a no.

So then spawn with a ckit and decon as soon as you spawn.

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