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Opinions of 1.1 vs Gameplay Preview

Started by Superpie, December 18, 2009, 04:58:07 AM

What's your opinion?

I like GPP and 1.1
17 (17.3%)
I like 1.1 more than GPP
23 (23.5%)
I like GPP more than 1.1
33 (33.7%)
I am outraged by GPP
13 (13.3%)
I'm just going with the flow
12 (12.2%)

Total Members Voted: 95

Voting closed: January 08, 2010, 04:58:06 AM

Superpie

GPP means Gameplay Preview, "1.2 beta." Please don't vote based on what other people think, like some tend to do. I would like to know your personal opinion.
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FreaK

I like GPP better than 1.1, it still needs a few tweaks but overall I think the gameplay is much better and more fun than 1.1.

KillerWhale

I really like GPP. A lot.

GPP feels more like a game that should be released than 1.1 does.

I'm not saying that GPP is not without its flaws, but I think it is absolutely excellent.
From 4v4 to 14v14, the game remains fun and playable.

@Devs: Thank you so much for putting your time into this. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that you guys have lives of your own, and are doing this out of charity.

your face

#3
GPP is fine.  It just has kinks that need ironing out, and needs updates such as sound/ui/models instead of solely gameplay changes.

They should really think about getting more than one developer to do everything non-code related.  Maybe put some other willing community members to the grinding stone.
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ghostisback

I like 1.1 cause i still play it more then Gpp. But GPP is not that bad, in fact it's increasing gameplay but, as said by your face, i hope more changes in models and sounds and so on.

Quote from: KillerWhale on December 18, 2009, 06:04:30 AM
@Devs: Thank you so much for putting your time into this. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that you guys have lives of your own, and are doing this out of charity.

+1

And I apologize for the little whining on first GPP time.

Have Fun !!!

Asche

I hate the new "fov" (In fact, I hate the new algorithm calculates the fov who believes that all players have 16:9 screen)

I am outraged by GPP

CreatureofHell

I don't especially dislike GPP, I'm just waiting for 1.2 in the fullness of time.
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HamStar

I like both versions of trem, although I personally prefer the changes compared to 1.1, mainly due to the shift in focus towards teamwork winning the game rather than one guy powering past defences. I feel that some of the smaller aliens now get a chance to shine in combat rather than being useless blockers. Games can still be stacked though, as some of the more skilled people tend to adapt better to the changes than others.

And at the people who want a new UI/sounds/models:
Quote from: Superpie on December 18, 2009, 04:58:07 AMGPP means Gameplay Preview

Kaine

You know how I feel... I prefer 1.1.

PS: This topic get's the "Kaine Stamp of Approval."

Kiwi

I also like GPP more than 1.1, but GPP does have a few problem still.

BTW: I selected that I like them both the same in the poll :/ you should take that into account when counting.
Sorry,
Kiwi

mooseberry

Quote from: Kiwi on December 18, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
I also like GPP more than 1.1, but GPP does have a few problem still.

BTW: I selected that I like them both the same in the poll :/ you should take that into account when counting.
Sorry,
Kiwi

Up at top under poll, "remove vote" then vote.  ;)
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jal

I liked more the building at 1.1, but I can live with marked decon, and the game feels smooth. Weapons seem ok in 1.2, so... I'm going with the flow.

phungus420

As a primarily alien player I'm outraged by the GPP and will likely never play 1.2 if it is released in the current state.  Even the most noob bases can't be killed by aliens until they get to s3.  And if the teams are evenly matched in skill (never happens because new and inexeperienced players always pick humans so the human team usually has a much lower level of skill), aliens get crushed.  The GPP doesn't really seem like much of a game.

Yeah, outraged by the GPP.

FreaK

I think anyone in 1.1 who is in a clan should atleast give 1.2 a try. I mean come on atleast in the american clan scene scrims and competitive matches were a joke and I think a lot of the changes in 1.2 will help to fix that.

Bajsefar

I like the GPP A lot. A huge issue was fixed with the repeater tweak. Humans can now have some more map control, while in 1.1 aliens often had control of the whole map since they are not as dependent on their base. Now humans don't have to venture through miles of enemy territory to get to the alien base, a luxury which was often only granted aliens in 1.1.
I aslo like the new focus on teamplay in the aliens in GPP. Since aliens have been nerfed on the bigger classes, and buffed on the small. (basi, mara zap, is really useful.) These changes leads to less cowering in base for the human part, and less waiting-by-the-doorway killwhoring on the alien team. These were the big turn-offs with 1.1, and it's more or less gone! Good job!

bob0

Quote from: FreaK on December 18, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
I think anyone in 1.1 who is in a clan should atleast give 1.2 a try. I mean come on atleast in the american clan scene scrims and competitive matches were a joke and I think a lot of the changes in 1.2 will help to fix that.
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Plague Bringer

Quote from: HamStar on December 18, 2009, 11:23:27 AM
I like both versions of trem, although I personally prefer the changes compared to 1.1, mainly due to the shift in focus towards teamwork winning the game rather than one guy powering past defences.
Actually, GPP, I find, forces teamwork, which implies to me that gameplay will be incredibly unfun when the newbies start to fill the servers. It's hard enough to coordinate with the players that are there now.
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Celestial_Rage

Quote from: Plague Bringer on December 18, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: HamStar on December 18, 2009, 11:23:27 AM
I like both versions of trem, although I personally prefer the changes compared to 1.1, mainly due to the shift in focus towards teamwork winning the game rather than one guy powering past defences.
Actually, GPP, I find, forces teamwork, which implies to me that gameplay will be incredibly unfun when the newbies start to fill the servers. It's hard enough to coordinate with the players that are there now.

That requires you talk to people. Half the people on trem don't even know how to chat. Especially those inhuman white name noobs...
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A Spork

But if you force the noobs to work with you, they'll actually learn something, and get better.
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Bajsefar

#19
What, GPP does not force you to teamwork..
It just makes it more obvious that teamwork is a better option.

Plague Bringer

Quote from: A Spork on December 19, 2009, 05:49:02 AM
But if you force the noobs to work with you, they'll actually learn something, and get better.
Care to explain how you go about that? Some people are idiots, and they don't go along with you, regardless of what you do to try and get them to.
U R A Q T

A Spork

Yes, some people are idiots who don't care to learn, but there's also this who want to, but suck.
People learn by example.
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Demolution

GPP and 1.1. Both are Tremulous, and both offer different gameplay.

Also, as Face mentioned, it would be nice to get the community more involved. The Community Spotlight was a nice step in that direction, as it showcased what people are capable of creating, however, small incentives could really help get things moving.

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temple

I can not enjoy the changes.  Its like riding a motorcycle for years and then being forced to drive a station wagon.

jal

Quote from: Plague Bringer on December 18, 2009, 08:33:47 PMActually, GPP, I find, forces teamwork
I don't notice any difference in that matter between 1.1 and 1.2, tbh.

amz181

21 who dont mind GPP
26 who are against GPP
23 who are for GPP

Not as clear cut as alot of people are making out...

phungus420

Quote from: amz181 on December 22, 2009, 01:20:02 PM
21 who dont mind GPP
26 who are against GPP
23 who are for GPP

Not as clear cut as alot of people are making out...

What this is ignoring is the base excitement which usually comes from an expansion as well.  Most players were excited by a 1.2 update.  I know I was.  I have only come to hate it after playing it, ans seen how it ruins the game.  Seriously why make goon chomp useless, and then overpower pounce?  That's not in any way fun... either as a human or as an alien.

A Spork

Try playing as other classes, and more than a few games.
And I enjoy it, I find it more fun that 1.1 really.
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jit

i voted; goin with the flow. gpp has some getting used to. over time, i think gpp will have more teamwork as plague bringer said. it's pretty hard to win as the best on your team now especially that bases are harder to kill when they are built 1.2 style. add some alien attacking graphics like those mara claws, new weapon models, a few more classes, a few more weapons, maybe more structures, more maps and 1.2 could turn out to be good. 1.1 is good enough but having more couldn't hurt.