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Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« on: March 10, 2010, 12:34:16 am »
The Elements of Gaming Server Hosting Plans.

Any game hosting : $5
Every 10 Slots : 50ยข (cents)
Auto Server Installer and Editor : $1
SSH : $1
FTP : $1
Custom Domain : $5 (AKA Site)

Either you can follow one of these plans or select the features you would like to use on the website (COMING SOON).

Noob Plan : Any Game Hosting, 20 Slots, No Auto Installer and Editor, SSH, FTP, No Custom Domain, 5 GB. = $8/mo.

Bronze Plan : Any Game Hosting, 20 Slots, Auto Installer and Editor, SSH, FTP, No Custom Domain, 5 GB. = $9/mo.

Silver Plan : Any Game Hosting, 40 Slots, Auto Installer and Editor, SSH, FTP, No Custom Domain, 10 GB. = $10/mo.

Gold Plan : Any Game Hosting, 40 Slots, Auto Installer and Editor, SSH, FTP, Custom Domain, 25 GB. = $15/mo.

This hosting plan applies to:

Tremulous 1.1 and 1.2
Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
Urban Terror
SWAT 4
Quake
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 02:09:39 am »
Pretty sure this server hosting ad goes in the server section? EDIT: Mod was faster than me.

That aside, hosting set-up? Testimonials? Anything to make people pick you over something else?
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 02:41:57 am »
other useful info would be location and any servers using your service to see how stable/good it is(ofcourse youll have to ask their permission before releasing that they use your service)
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 06:28:28 pm »
I argue that these prices are impossible for a profitable business.

You are most likely homehosting, else, please define server specs and datacenter.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 09:39:41 pm »
Pretty sure this server hosting ad goes in the server section? EDIT: Mod was faster than me.

That aside, hosting set-up? Testimonials? Anything to make people pick you over something else?

There will be a WEEK Trial available once I get the javascripts on the site working.

other useful info would be location and any servers using your service to see how stable/good it is(ofcourse youll have to ask their permission before releasing that they use your service)

It is embedded with Linux on a +/- 350MHz ARM processor and 128MB ram.

I argue that these prices are impossible for a profitable business.

You are most likely homehosting, else, please define server specs and datacenter.

For specs on the database is here. I have about 2 of these with 2 TB. I not going to use my other databases unless their a needed.

More features that are going to be included is Automatic backups of your server data every month, No Price.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 09:53:07 pm »
other useful info would be location and any servers using your service to see how stable/good it is(ofcourse youll have to ask their permission before releasing that they use your service)

It is embedded with Linux on a +/- 350MHz ARM processor and 128MB ram.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 09:56:21 pm »
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Honestly, my cell phone outperforms your dedi. One of my smallest virtual machines can host sixty times the number of servers one of your boxes can. You can't go into the game server business with assets that cost less than a meal, good sir.

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You also are charging for the wrong things. Your primary limiting factor these days is the datacenter's price for decent uplinks and rackspace. In the States, bandwidth is a bit pricey, too. Charging proportionately like that for basic services such as ssh and ftp is silly, you need one or the other any way unless you have some half-ass Web panel to manage your tremded. *cough* maverick *cough*

Your "gold" plan is 40 slots with the works and 25 GB of bandwidth. Your server could run maybe a 10-client server if it was pushed to its limits and did nothing else, and it'd still lag. An individual client's rate is usually 25,000. That means 25,000 bytes per client per second when the server is online. That's a million bytes - call it a megabyte if you use the SI unit - per second on a fully loaded 40-slot server. Your plan allots 25GB of (monthly?) BW. That's 25,600 MiB. Your plan has enough bandwidth to cover 26,843 seconds on a full server. That's 447 minutes - less than seven and a half hours a month of gametime. I hope to God you're kidding.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 10:10:02 pm »
It keeps running on the internet while its off. Its capable of running up to 50 servers and I'm going to be having a virtual control option as well.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 10:13:16 pm »
What in Timbo's name are you talking about, son?

edit to counter your edit: virtual control meaning, you can shut off your server so you don't go above your mere seven and a half allotted hours?

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 10:14:13 pm »
Its capable of running a lot of servers, and to prove you guys wrong I will... later once I get my work done.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 10:16:08 pm »
What in Timbo's name are you talking about, son?

edit to counter your edit: virtual control meaning, you can shut off your server so you don't go above your mere seven and a half allotted hours?

It wont have that much power over the virtual control.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 10:16:59 pm »
It's capable of running a lot of /empty/ servers, sure. 40-slot servers? I'm sorry, but there's not a chance in hell. Tremulous is CPU-bound - and so are all the other games you support - RAM and network latency are not the bottlenecks. I would advise not pouring too much time and effort into your little enterprise; it was condemned before it even existed.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 10:20:37 pm »
Fine Ill cancel the order I made of the server. I am now going to be doing this.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 10:22:40 pm »
The Official US server is currently eating 76MB (res, 6 players, atcs) so good luck getting 50 in 128.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 10:32:09 pm »
Fine Ill cancel the order I made of the server. I am now going to be doing this.
Those instructions are for a a virtual server within a server. The author is even more of a nitwit than I believed you to be. When somebody lists either "good integrated graphics ... so I can turn on the eye-candy in Ubuntu" they need to be shot, a few times over. Real servers are headless - no graphics, sometimes not even a terminal. You should do some research from authoritative sources before you invest in anything... and given your posts here I'd have to strongly encourage others not to host on your machine, ever.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2010, 10:32:23 pm »
Is this fine? I can modify the RAM so its larger anytime.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2010, 10:37:56 pm »
No one is ever going to rent a server that's home-hosted.

Even if your connection is that good, no one will believe it.  And even then the market for servers is currently so crap that you'll never get your cash back this way.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2010, 10:40:34 pm »
For comparison, the servers I run in Texas to host games (out of www.noghost.net/hosting) are dual quad core Xeons with 8GB of memory.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2010, 12:33:55 am »
It is embedded with Linux on a +/- 350MHz ARM processor and 128MB ram.

You can't be serious...
I've got a Commodore 64 around here somewhere I could offer hosting on ...

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2010, 12:59:54 am »
... and there's the shameless plug I expected from Mav. Glad you didn't let me down... you never let an opportunity to drop your name and URL slip by.

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2010, 02:21:20 am »
Not sure who you are Einstein or what forums you have been reading, but I hardly ever advertise hosting.  Would it make you feel better if I remove the link? 

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2010, 03:01:52 am »
No one is ever going to rent a server that's home-hosted.

is it homebased? he mistook what i said and gave me the HW specs(which isnt all that good wont get many running) what i wanted him to say is where the datacenter is Europe, US, Middle of nowhere, In his back room, Mars etc and any gameservers already being hosted so people can connect and see if its anygood in a working gameserver (what ping they get, if server lags with whats on at time etc)

homebased connections just dont have enough bandwidth to host (multiple)multiplayer games not to meantion some isp's(atleast mine) frown upon running things like gameservers even web/ftp servers using home based plans
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2010, 06:54:05 am »
... and there's the shameless plug I expected from Mav. Glad you didn't let me down... you never let an opportunity to drop your name and URL slip by.

Like you're one to talk with your shameless attack at his web admin system in a thread that had absolutely nothing to do with him.

Maverick isn't some kind of spamming advertiser, but as a business owner of course he's going to promote himself when a good opportunity appears.  I've hosted with Maverick plenty and he provides something no other tremulous server hoster has, long standing reliability and a great price.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2010, 12:47:02 pm »
25GB holy bejeesus! 

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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2010, 06:13:40 am »
LMFAO. Thats funny :) Well, to give a prospective of what a FULL server can be, back in SST's GLory days we had a system like this, not exact.

Pentium 4 3.2GHZ HT
2GB Ram
500GB HD SATA
Windows 2003 Enterprise

We ate around 500-1000GB and was full practically the whole day, with exceptions at night time when it would drop to 20-35. Guess what? We still lagged :) Used all of the ram power + all of the cpu power...mainly, it was due to it being windows as I was inexperienced with Linux and didnt want to give it a try.

Your previous specs make me lol..I havnt looked at your 'new' plan..i will shortly.
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Re: Elements of Gaming Server Hosting!
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2010, 06:18:18 am »
Don't buy a server/desktop, build one. Itll be faster, better, and cheaper. If you dont know how to build a server/computer by now, you shouldn't be hosting. Plus, do not host it on your internet connection - with the exception of if you have Verizon fios in a very non-congested location, then you MIGHT be able to get away with it...but, unless you've got a 10-50mbit line running in your house, dont even try to host anything at your house. And when I say 10mbit line, I dont mean cable!
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