Hello, I am an admin and developer on XserverX servers and I would like to weigh on this discussion.
X got much of it's popularity from abusing the way the default client sorts the server list to get itself at/near the top.
It is not "abuse" but rather use of the sorting system to boost our placement above others. However, every other server has the ability to take advantage of the same method. In you server.cfg simply make your server name have a lot of 0s (zero) in front of it. I.e. add "set sv_hostname 0000000000^1SomeServer".
Its an ugly attempt to put your server further up on the server list. If its working, then that's a ugly hack, if its not, then its a shameful mess. Either way this is not proper use of the system. The creators of the system changed it due to this kind of use. As someone said earlier: just because anyone can use this hack doesn't mean this is fair play.
Because it's not tremulous, and it's lying to players saying it is.
Au contraire. It IS Tremulous, just a radically different gameplay style. It seems you and your compatriots believe we ensnare players and make them think that our server is representative of Tremulous as a whole. However, we have never made such a claim, as it would be erroneous to do so. We have only instituted a method of gameplay that we enjoy and gone forward with it.
It is not tremulous gameplay, it is, in your own words, a radically different gameplay style. I admit you have not outright claimed that your server is representative of tremulous, that would be rediculous. I'm sure if asked directly, you would state the truth. However, the only thing I see you doing to present this is your website, linked to by the motd. This is insufficient. Everything else, such as the base-folder mod, is masking the truth by witholding information. I do not belive its due dilligence. I've personally /denybuilded *many* on AA for battlegranging because for some reasons people are convinced it works. I have heard people say things like "wtf, hax! That dretch survived one blaster shot!!!"? Yes, people are convinced by your silence.
Players coming off from the X server also often find it hard to kill anyone on a normal server, so they are forced to return to the X server. A black hole effect if you will...
Let us look at this from another light. Players coming to other servers from never having played will find it near impossible to kill someone at first. The same issue occurs with X. So your argument that we make players worse is invalid. X just requires a different set of skills / strategies than do vanilla servers and while playing on X players gain experience for X, not normal servers.
If only people understood that then this argument would disappear.
It further alienates the rest of the community by pretending to be something its not. All of its mod files are placed in the base folder, something which should be reserved for, you guessed it, the game's base files. This is both untidy and not particularly honest.
By mod files I assume you are referring to the 3 custom maps we have and the X server graphics mod. Because other than that, X utilizes no custom mods. And it is our decision to use that space. That does not make it untidy or dishonest. Rather, it makes it a bit more tidy. Because if you are looking for files from X, you know where to look.
What? Do I have to explain qvm development to you? If the damage of weapons and hp of classes have been changed, you are running a gameplay changing mod. You might care to read the sticky in that forum. Do I also have to explain the tremulous folder structure to you? Firstly, maps always go into the base folder. The graphics mod is technically fine the base folder, but since it belongs to the gameplay mod, does it not belong in that (nonexistant) folder? And I am not necessarily talking about file structure clientside, if you cared to read the gameplay-changing mod sticky you might understand my reasons for asking this of you.
That is true, but it means you cannot have a separate set of binds for vanilla tremulous and X server, this is a problem for people who build their binds based on tactical combinations, or want "itemtoggle blaster" set to the right mouse button instead of "itemact medkit". I like autoexec.cfg thank you very much.
Sure you can. Just make a .cfg file such as "x.cfg", add your binds, and place it in your base folder, then when in game do "/exec x.cfg" and you will have custom binds to use on X.That they mod is fine, its that they mod *improperly*
No. We mod *differently*.
I like autoexec.cfg thank you very much. I cannot take seriously such a refusal to change less than 20 characters in one file, which I assume you know about.
I challenge X to survive long term after removing the boxes from it's name
Again with the ignorance. They are not boxes, but zeros.
They look the boxes, the box tool in gimp fits them perfectly. They are boxes. The fact that they are technically zeros does not invalidate his statement.
EDIT: It appears I gave you too much credibillity. I originally thought they were null characters, but apparently they have more in common with 1 than 0
Why people here generally don't like X:
Users such as yourself. NO OFFENSE, THOUGH.
You aren't helping your cause there buddy. Just coming in and not contributing to the discussion at hand, but rather tossing an insult at another user certainly makes you seem like the image of a great user yourself.
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