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Conzul

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Needs fixing
« on: April 23, 2010, 05:23:22 pm »
Flamethrowers work underwater.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 05:43:05 pm »
That should be in feedback, tho I agree. While on the topic of underwater, how about we speed up the aliens' swimming ability?
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Conzul

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 06:03:35 pm »
Putting it here was a psychological decision, as there are those who probably don't mind its use underwater.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 03:49:49 am »
Doesn't need fixing fire is indeed possible underwater if you got fuel source and oxygen so why wouldn't a flamethrower work underwater
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Conzul

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 04:37:35 am »
Quote from: SlackerLinux on April 24, 2010, 03:49:49 am
Doesn't need fixing fire is indeed possible underwater if you got fuel source and oxygen so why wouldn't a flamethrower work underwater

Yeah but there isn't oxygen underwater, Slacker. Only the hottest lava can burn underwater, and then it's not even burning in the sense that fire does. A handheld device certainly couldn't accomplish that kind of heat power.

Needs fixing.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 06:25:35 am »
lets see oxygen tank + fuel tank = handheld device spewing fire underwater
i still dont see an issue
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2010, 12:56:11 pm »
People do that for welding and cutting stuff under water, so why not for weapons?
Although I'd guess the jet would change shape, not sure how though.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2010, 02:42:54 pm »
It would dissipate very quickly and all the heat would be absorbed very quickly... You'd probably get a little more range then with psaw. Except you'd boil yourself.
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Conzul

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2010, 03:21:33 pm »
Quote from: SlackerLinux on April 24, 2010, 06:25:35 am
lets see oxygen tank + fuel tank = handheld device spewing fire underwater
i still dont see an issue

Show me and I'll stop kicking.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2010, 05:12:43 pm »
Quote from: Conzul on April 24, 2010, 03:21:33 pm
Quote from: SlackerLinux on April 24, 2010, 06:25:35 am
lets see oxygen tank + fuel tank = handheld device spewing fire underwater
i still dont see an issue

Show me and I'll stop kicking.

2000 years in the future... at the rate technology has been developing, pretty much anything is possible. :P
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2010, 05:20:41 pm »
Quote from: your face on April 24, 2010, 05:12:43 pm
Quote from: Conzul on April 24, 2010, 03:21:33 pm
Quote from: SlackerLinux on April 24, 2010, 06:25:35 am
lets see oxygen tank + fuel tank = handheld device spewing fire underwater
i still dont see an issue

Show me and I'll stop kicking.

2000 years in the future... at the rate technology has been developing, pretty much anything is possible. :P
Except making a weapon that generates energy from the air around it actually be useful...Humans need more chozo weapon building skill, or at least some roddenberryesque blasters.
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Conzul

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2010, 05:24:30 pm »
Quote from: your face on April 24, 2010, 05:12:43 pm
Quote from: Conzul on April 24, 2010, 03:21:33 pm
Quote from: SlackerLinux on April 24, 2010, 06:25:35 am
lets see oxygen tank + fuel tank = handheld device spewing fire underwater
i still dont see an issue

Show me and I'll stop kicking.

2000 years in the future... at the rate technology has been developing, pretty much anything is possible. :P

So tremulous happens in 2000 years? Huh, yet they still have things like shotguns and solid ammunition, and soft targets. Oh yeah, real futuristic.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2010, 05:32:21 pm »
http://tremulous.net/about/

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Quote from: Conzul on April 24, 2010, 05:24:30 pm
So tremulous happens in 2000 years? Huh, yet they still have things like shotguns and solid ammunition, and soft targets. Oh yeah, real futuristic.

Well we don't want the game to become unbalanced, do we? :P
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2010, 09:48:44 am »
1. Tremulous is _not_ realistic.

2. If we were being realistic, you would most likely burn yourself as the heat would spread through the water and hurt yourself.

3. How many times to people really use flamethrowers underwater?

Not really that big of an issue imo. But I wouldn't care either way.
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Conzul

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2010, 04:28:46 pm »
Quote from: mooseberry on April 25, 2010, 09:48:44 am
3. How many times to people really use flamethrowers underwater?

Not often, but it's rememberable because water slows down all movement, meaning that the Flamer is even more OP then when it's in air, because the aliens cannot dodge away. It's a soupy, ugly death.
I suppose you could argue that we are not forced to go into the water, but flamerdudes often have nades, so that means a heavy (alien) has to supervise him till he comes out or goes away.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2010, 04:54:52 pm »
Lasgun shots should refract when they pass in/out of water.
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Conzul

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2010, 05:22:46 pm »
Quote from: David on April 25, 2010, 04:54:52 pm
Lasgun shots should refract when they pass in/out of water.

Now you are just making fun of me. Go Wai.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2010, 05:45:50 pm »
Well, then these weapons should not work underwater too: psaw, chaingun, rifle, shotgun. I am not sure about energy weapons, but they probably should hurt everyone in water without direct hit. And psaw looks like energy weapon too, but sounds like engine whose consuming air. So we should be limited to ... grenade? :)
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2010, 09:03:53 pm »
« Last Edit: April 25, 2010, 09:07:54 pm by your face »
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2010, 09:21:09 pm »
Quote from: David on April 25, 2010, 04:54:52 pm
Lasgun shots should refract when they pass in/out of water.
Tremulous water doesn't refract light. Until the gfx are updated, lasgun shots are fine as they are :P
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2010, 09:24:55 pm »
Well obviously everyone's eyes have been technologically / evolutionarily upgraded to compensate.
Can't do the same for a gun.
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2010, 09:55:36 pm »
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2010, 10:07:59 pm »
Quote from: rotacak on April 25, 2010, 09:55:36 pm
I was said "...chaingun, rifle, shotgun...", not "underwater crossbow and pistol" :)

:) :) :) What's to stop the Russians :) :) from :) inventing awesome underwater rifles, :) shotguns, and chainguns in 2000 years? :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2010, 10:12:48 pm »
Quote from: David on April 25, 2010, 04:54:52 pm
Lasgun shots should refract when they pass in/out of water.
And humans should be able to spam a full luci clip into a pool of water then take a nice bath in the irradiated water...A bath that never ends...
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rotacak

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Re: Needs fixing
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2010, 11:07:15 pm »
your face: in russia is everything possible ;D
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