Author Topic: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute  (Read 5592 times)

+ OPTIMUS +

  • Posts: 1098
  • Turrets: +263/-164
Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« on: May 02, 2010, 01:25:51 am »

I'm writing my final work now on the teacher master degree course at the university.
My subject is to summon some of the inspirational substances of gaming (p&p rpgs' and video/computer games') in classrooms to make interesting and motivating lessons, and make other teachers  aware of the potentials in gaming what can lead to actual knowledge, sometimes just a hobby but sometimes actual work, possibly positively influencing a gamer's life.

For this reason it would be nice to have some opinions directly from gamers like you. I have set some questions, but i'd be pleased to generally hear your opinions about the subject of games inspiring you to make any kind of positive contribution towards any game related material.
It would be nice to have your opinions in the essay, as this community is partly the reason for me to state such things and trying to get students at their... gamer end :-)

Some helping questions are:
what things have you learn/contribute and wich way, inspired by tremulous (or other games)? (this can vary from using 3D programs trough animation till composing music, anything)
what was your motivation do do so?
are you planning/did you achieve some kind of success/profession/study inspired by gaming?
do you think that school system can help you with this kind of interest, or if it could, would you need it?

So, somethink like this.
I can include your answers only in the next 24 hours, when i'll print the stuff out and run to print it, so the deadline is extremely close, but anyways it would be nice to hear yours opinions about this anytime.
If you feel that you dont want to publicly show your opinions here, it would be nice to have answers in PM too.

Many thanks for your help, and please keep this thread on topic and peaceful.
success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm

+PICS+

your face

  • Community Moderators
  • *
  • Posts: 3843
  • Turrets: +116/-420
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 03:48:35 am »
Well, whatever, here goes. :P

what things have you learn/contribute and wich way, inspired by tremulous (or other games)? (this can vary from using 3D programs trough animation till composing music, anything)
Mapping.  It definitely has been/is a fantastic learning experience, not to mention enjoyable.  Being involved with the Unvanquished development team has been a great experience so far, and the community (both Unvanquished and Tremulous) has definitely been a large help to my progress. (However small the progress is. :P)

what was your motivation do do so?
Fascination with other people’s work.  “Wow, how did so-and-so do that!  I want to learn how to do that, too!”  I have always loved to create things (whether it be from my imagination, things I see in real life, or random concept art I stumble across).

are you planning/did you achieve some kind of success/profession/study inspired by gaming?
Unfortunately, mapping with such outdated software (Radiant) really hinders future job opportunities that there would be with a newer engine.  I’m thinking about getting into modeling, but am too busy/lazy to learn a bunch of new stuff right now. :P

do you think that school system can help you with this kind of interest, or if it could, would you need it?
Absolutely.  Learning solely from online sources works, but having a real, live instructor (depending on who it is, of course) can make things much simpler to understand and overall more enjoyable.

Hope this might help, and good luck with the essay, optimus.  ;)
spam spam spam, waste waste waste!

KillerWhale

  • Spam Killer
  • *
  • Posts: 469
  • Turrets: +63/-26
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 04:09:11 am »
what things have you learn/contribute and wich way, inspired by tremulous (or other games)? (this can vary from using 3D programs trough animation till composing music, anything)

Tremulous has inspired an incredible interest in me to get into networking and information systems; I'm working on a CompTia certification before I even leave high school right now.
Even just communication with the more technically skilled members of the community taught me more than many people will ever know about computers.

what was your motivation do do so?

Well, I had the opportunity to do, so I did.

are you planning/did you achieve some kind of success/profession/study inspired by gaming?

Well, as noted above, I am taking interest in information systems. So much so that I have done an internship for my local city in the IT section and am starting to aide for the technical manager of our entire school district.

do you think that school system can help you with this kind of interest, or if it could, would you need it?
I think that expanding proficiency programs and replacing the basic computer usage that most students know how to do already with more advanced proficiencies; also, possibly adding basic coding/hardware classes to schools could benefit the expansion of technology.


It's good to see someone writing about this. :)

DeathSkull

  • Posts: 117
  • Turrets: +45/-2
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 04:16:15 am »
Very good idea for a topic, and I'm glad to be here to lend a hand. Has gaming had a lot of benefits in my life? Yes! Both good and bad (I rather regret having to say the latter). I understand that not all of this may relate directly to your questions, but it does show how gaming has benefited me.

------
A Bit of History


I've been gaming for most of my life, as far back as I can remember (since I was 4, maybe 5 years old). I was born with ADHD among other things, and I had trouble concentrating on one thing for very long. I've been in school to help with that (and other things) since I was 13 months old, and I can say that I stopped suffering from ADHD a long time ago. Did gaming help with that? I believe so, but you be the judge.

My mother was a bit of a gamer herself, having owned an NES system since before I was born. She used to play Tetris and Pac-man and Super Mario Bros, and when I came along and it was discovered that I had ADHD, she decided to get me into gaming to help with my concentration. If I could learn to focus on something on the screen and get the character from Point A to Point B without drifting away from it, she thought it would help improve my focus in all other areas of my life as well, particularly schoolwork (at the time). Did it work? Maybe a tad too well.

Thus my gaming career was born. I'd come home from school and unwind by playing a little bit of Mario or Castlevania, then get on with my homework. My ability to concentrate on things was greatly strengthened, and shortly after that I pretty much stopped exhibiting any of the symptoms of ADHD. These days it's safe to say I'm pretty much cured of that (I've played Trem for 12 hours in a row if you need proof  ;)).

As I mentioned earlier, gaming has also had it's bad effects. In 2002 I received an Xbox for Christmas, and I entered the "modern" era of gaming. No more 2D for me! I'd say that it was then that I pretty much became a full fledged gamer. I started checking in with what was good and popular, instead of just buying whatever caught my eye. I joined up with an online school that I worked in from home. While this was a great feature to have for someone like me, who suffers from muscle problems and deafness as well, it also allowed me to focus MORE time into my gaming hobby. As the years went on, this proved to not be the best thing in the world as I began to play more and neglect my studies. Not that I had trouble with the work; I never have. It was just a matter of making myself do the work.

---------
Here and Now

Later on in 2006, I came across a beautiful gem known as Tremulous. I played it for a few years, not bothering to ever look into the "meat" of the game. I never had cared exactly how a game was put together.

A couple of years ago I picked up Blender, a 3D modeling program. I messed around with it for a bit and followed tutorials, then realized that I could use such a program to make models for games! Intrigued by this, I decided to look into the other aspects of what made a game... well, a game! Code, art, music, level design... it was all so new and interesting. And then I hit the jackpot, at least for me: writing.

I've always been a huge reader and I've toyed with writing over the years. After some thinking, I decided to give it another try almost this time last year. I'd been in a few forum RPs since 2006, and that had helped my enthusiasm and writing skills somewhat. I turned my eyes to a game that really had no back story at all, something that would give me a lot of "leg room", so to speak. And that game was Tremulous!

I'm sure several of the people here have read my novella, The Harder They Fall. It was my first serious attempt at writing a story and there was mostly positive feedback from the community (for that I'm very glad  ;)). I've written up a few short stories since, all met with positive feedback as well. Due to these events, I've pretty much decided to forge my career with a pen and a large notebook (or in my case, a keyboard and OpenOffice  ;)). I certainly have not forgotten my roots, however, and I am still as much of a gamer now as I ever was. I'd love to write for a few games in my time!

So has gaming affected my life to a great degree? Without a doubt! Pretty much my entire life, up to this point, has been paved by me with a controller in one hand, a keyboard in the other, pixels dancing in front of my eyes, and my wild imagination. I wouldn't be where I am today without the aid of God, my parents, the digital academy I go to, or that old NES (hey, I think that thing is STILL running flawlessly).

--------
Afterwords

I've pretty much covered your first three questions with what I wrote above, so I'll take care of #4 now.

"Do you think that the school system can help you with this kind of interest, or if it could, would you need it?"

Well, maybe not directly. I think it would be helpful if, for those who are interested in a career in gaming, have some sort of "side classes". For example: if someone were interested in level design/mapping (another area that I rather enjoy) it might be helpful to offer a type of class that helped with gameplay and design ideas. Not actually building the levels, per se, but maybe getting people together to discuss ideas and whatnot and putting it down on paper to see if it'd work.

I hope this was something of a helpful post! I tried to cover everything that you might find interesting, and with luck you'll find something of use. Best of luck on the essay, good sir!  :D

-Death
Life is Temporary - Death is Eternal
{NoS} 4eva!
Check out my Tremulous novella:
http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=11003.0

Paradox

  • Posts: 2612
  • Turrets: +253/-250
    • Paradox Designs
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 01:59:40 am »
What did tremulous teach me/make me do:
Quite a bit about unix. Prior to trem, i was aware of unix, but i didn't really use it that much, as i really didn't find anything i needed to. When i started compiling and working on QVMs, as well as running lan party servers, trem provided the incentive to learn. Tremulous also helped me develop my skills as a leader. I honed my teeth operating a fairly large server (SST), and since then have moved onto bigger forms of communication, such as IRC and reddit.

What have i contributed to tremulous
Well, i was one of the original community moderators here on the forums, and i did manage a few qvm projects. I also have done some work on the Map repo and the wiki.

What caused me to contribute
Primarily the desire to get stuff done. When I wanted to be a moderator, it was because the forums were a mess, covered in spam and not really that useful. The QVM projects came out of a desire for very specific functionality, as well as being told by other developers that "NO I DONT WANT THAT SO U DONT EITHER". The map repo and wiki came about because i was modestly knowledgeable, and wanted to help improve the community.

Did gaming help my profession?
Sort of. Tremulous is what got me interested in the little aspects of computers and games. Things like hud layouts, designs, user interfaces, etc. They have all helped push me into design as well as programming.

Can a school benefit by using video games and other forms of electronic media
Absolutely. A large part of the challenge is keeping kids focused, and nothing works better to keep kids focused than a video game. Modern video games address complex issues and topics; bioshock could be used to teach civics, for example, and are often in a media far easier to relate to, than say reading Atlas shrugged or The Communist Manifesto.

∧OMG ENTROPY∧

+ OPTIMUS +

  • Posts: 1098
  • Turrets: +263/-164
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 02:11:54 am »
Thank you very much for every contributor! With the bonus 2 answers i got as emails, i now have an almost full circle of the activities around tremulous telling their points of view.
I think this is just priceless.
I think this was the amount of posts that i can translate and process in time for the essay, but i'm looking forward to further opinions too!
success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm

+PICS+

player1

  • Posts: 3062
  • Turrets: +527/-401
    • My Avatar! (if they were enabled) [by mietz]
Re: Benefits of gaming in the world - pleased to contribute
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 06:58:52 pm »
What did tremulous teach me/make me do?
Write every day, for a critical audience.

What have I contributed to tremulous?
Words. Lots of them. (See signature to be overwhelmed by blockwalls of barely-formatted text.)

What caused me to contribute?
Someone even made a sub-forum for it.

Did gaming help my profession?
Definitely. It give me a fun place to experience the needful task of keeping up with the increasingly encroaching wave of all-consuming virtuality.

Can a school benefit by using video games and other forms of electronic media?
I defer to those closer to that experience, yet I will mention, in association to what Paradox says above, that it was Deus Ex that really got me to read Robert Anton Wilson, Timothy Leary, Terence McKenna, Andrew Weil, Richard Metzger, et al. Some people are hip to that opportunity to communicate a variety of messages and participate in discussions in an array of subjects, while others decry the death of the print publishing industry. I think many of the noises being made in the older media like print and TV about the newer forms like gaming and fileshare will soon be seen as the increasingly irrelevant warnings and forebodings of quaint but over-the-hill parents and grandparents. This is where the students and consumers of the future exist. If there is any question as to whether a school can benefit from speaking to students in a language they understand, and learning from the students what that language is, the school need only look to commercial institutions to see that they are whole-heartedly embracing change, or being swept away (or worse yet, left behind).

Interesting thread/thesis/essay. Good luck. Cheers.

P.S. I think one thing that is often overlooked by most outsiders who try to assess the phenomenon of gaming - aside from the content - is the sense of camaraderie and friendship that like-minded people can find in virtual ghosts hundreds - if not thousands - of miles away.

As a last thought: The one thing that Tremulous really taught me, as you once summed up neatly yourself, sir, is this:

The experience points are not always awarded in-game. Just getting here proves that you are worthy to compete. (Now stop whining about campers and rush already.) "C'mon!!!"

CreatureofHell

  • Posts: 2422
  • Turrets: +430/-126
    • Tremtopia
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 04:02:07 pm »
player1

'nuff said
{NoS}StalKer
Quote
<Timbo> posting on the trem forums rarely results in anything good

Conzul

  • Posts: 1064
  • Turrets: +78/-17
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 04:33:16 pm »
studies show :P I forget bibliography but google it
That a group of ppl over the age of 30 (ish I forget) who play twitch games an average of one hour per day(who have never played before), daily for a month get a 45% increase in visual acuity. I heard that somewhere.

frazzler

  • Posts: 231
  • Turrets: +10/-1390
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 11:20:13 am »
I'm not going to fill out some uber long form here, but yesterday, I wrote an English Essay about tremulous. Got an A+. I also work as a freelance journalist for many different gaming magazines, I've made $14,000 dollars in a year and I'm only 16.

Also, if you look at things like reaction times, video gamers have incredible times. There's also problem solving. Chuck a video gamer into a complicated problem and he should be able to take in his surroundings, his teammates abilities, the given circumstances of the problem, and find the best way of overcoming that problem.
At least, if he doesn't suck nuts.

freecd

  • Guest
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 07:36:00 am »
Keeps me awake all night

amgh

  • Posts: 29
  • Turrets: +0/-0
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 07:00:16 am »
 trem is srs applicable irl. yesterday, a dog came at me and I just dodged it -- like omg, it's just like dodging a goon

+ OPTIMUS +

  • Posts: 1098
  • Turrets: +263/-164
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 11:41:56 am »
what a great surprise that the topic resurrected a bit since i took a look on the forums!
today i defended my essay in front of the committee, and it turned out to be a success.
thank you again for who helped me with their contributions, what was a nice flavour in the writing.
and thanks for ALL the inspirational community, from deconners to useful workers!

i'll rework the essay for publishing later, so all answers are still welcome from all of you!
success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm

+PICS+

Sea Of Eternity

  • Posts: 283
  • Turrets: +33/-25
Re: Benefits of gaming in your life - please contribute
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 01:02:51 pm »
learning to work with ppl and its a bonus since these ppl r from teh intarwebz!
lol