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Precision demos - Aliens

Started by SLAVE|Mietz, July 28, 2006, 01:43:40 PM

SLAVE|Mietz

http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~adamkiew/jimbo.dm_69

PLAYER: Jimbo
MAP: ATCS
TEAMS: GOOD, balanced
SERVER: #db tremulous.info Alpha

A quick show of what a dragoon can do, and how it has to be played.

I will try to make demos of every alien and how it can/should be played.

NOTE:

*.dm_69 files are quake demo files. to play them copy them to your /base directory, go into tremulous, open console, and type /demo <filename>.

Hydra

bah not too impressive, ive ween better dragoons, but hes was ok...... well hell loads better then some dragoons ive seen.
i did also notic that there was about 2 more drench standing in the open getting in the way.....

any ways how do u recorde game play like that?

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: Hydrabah not too impressive, ive ween better dragoons, but hes was ok...... well hell loads better then some dragoons ive seen.
i did also notic that there was about 2 more drench standing in the open getting in the way.....

any ways how do u recorde game play like that?

you should know if you know better players

Rippy

Quote from: SLAVE|Mietz
Quote from: Hydrabah not too impressive, ive ween better dragoons, but hes was ok...... well hell loads better then some dragoons ive seen.
i did also notic that there was about 2 more drench standing in the open getting in the way.....

any ways how do u recorde game play like that?

you should know if you know better players

Erm... what's the relation between happening to be in a game with a good Dragoon player, and knowing how to record a demo? It really doesn't take much skill to join a game and notice that a player on your team is good with a Dragoon, I don't see how that should magically teach you how to record demos.

Anyway, I have yet to watch it, but this is a good idea. You should probably give viewing instructions though, since newbies who want to see this won't know where to save it or how to view it.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: Rippy
Quote from: SLAVE|Mietz
Quote from: Hydrabah not too impressive, ive ween better dragoons, but hes was ok...... well hell loads better then some dragoons ive seen.
i did also notic that there was about 2 more drench standing in the open getting in the way.....

any ways how do u recorde game play like that?

you should know if you know better players

Erm... what's the relation between happening to be in a game with a good Dragoon player, and knowing how to record a demo? It really doesn't take much skill to join a game and notice that a player on your team is good with a Dragoon, I don't see how that should magically teach you how to record demos.

Anyway, I have yet to watch it, but this is a good idea. You should probably give viewing instructions though, since newbies who want to see this won't know where to save it or how to view it.

*yawns* read the note.

if someone is a good player with the dragoon, you cant say that from only spectating (floating around) but only if you follow. and to follow a player, you need to know the console-commands, thats the point.

next_ghost

Quote from: SLAVE|Mietzif someone is a good player with the dragoon, you cant say that from only spectating (floating around) but only if you follow. and to follow a player, you need to know the console-commands, thats the point.

What console commands? Clicking the mouse wheel is not console command. That's all you have to do to toggle first-person view. And when you want to change the player you follow, just turn the mouse wheel.

Edit 4Hydra: /record
If my answer to your problem doesn't seem helpful, it means I won't help you until you show some effort to fix your problem yourself!
1.2.0 release's been delayed for 5:48:00 already because of stupid questions.

SLAVE|Mietz

aw god, just go away from this thread

its for colecting information usefull for players

Rippy

Quote from: SLAVE|Mietzto follow a player, you need to know the console-commands, thats the point.

1. Join spectator mode
2. Press middle mouse button
3. Use scroll wheel to cycle through players

All it takes is to have tutorial mode on, and even an idiot can figure that out. o_O

Also I tried playing it and it just gave me the error "could not open demos/jimbo.dm_69"
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: Rippy
Quote from: SLAVE|Mietzto follow a player, you need to know the console-commands, thats the point.

1. Join spectator mode
2. Press middle mouse button
3. Use scroll wheel to cycle through players

All it takes is to have tutorial mode on, and even an idiot can figure that out. o_O

Also I tried playing it and it just gave me the error "could not open demos/jimbo.dm_69"

then go away cry in the corner

Hydra

Quote from: next_ghostEdit 4Hydra: /record
thanks ghost  :wink:
and thats like 1-2-3.......7 letters, which probably took u a whole 4 sec to type? soooo why is 4 secs of ur life SLAVE|Mietz so inportant to you that u cant use it to help other people?
but.....
Quote from: SLAVE|Mietzyou should know if you know better players
is worth your time?

SLAVE|Mietz


stahlsau

Quoteand thats like 1-2-3.......7 letters, which probably took u a whole 4 sec to type? soooo why is 4 secs of ur life SLAVE|Mietz so inportant to you that u cant use it to help other people?
but.....

Maybe because he put some effort in a thing and you tell him it's "not too impressive". These words coming from a newbee don't count much here ;)

Or maybe because you are using "u", "ur", bad grammatics and that stuff. If you don't care enough to write reasonable sentences, many people will consider this as disrespectfulness. Sure you can write this way, but you'll have to live with the fact that some people won't answer you than.

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: stahlsau
Quoteand thats like 1-2-3.......7 letters, which probably took u a whole 4 sec to type? soooo why is 4 secs of ur life SLAVE|Mietz so inportant to you that u cant use it to help other people?
but.....

Maybe because he put some effort in a thing and you tell him it's "not too impressive". These words coming from a newbee don't count much here ;)

Or maybe because you are using "u", "ur", bad grammatics and that stuff. If you don't care enough to write reasonable sentences, many people will consider this as disrespectfulness. Sure you can write this way, but you'll have to live with the fact that some people won't answer you than.

thank you for rescue  :wink:

chompers

To be honest, I didn't think the demo was all that great either, looks like Jimbo is a good player having a below average game, or he wasn't particularly interested in winning that match. The one time he looks at the human base and it's an almost undefended all-tesla defense, but he doesn't immediately bring in a goon to snipe the DCC and go to town on the base?

I did like the pounce > 180 > snipe trickshot though.

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: chompersTo be honest, I didn't think the demo was all that great either, looks like Jimbo is a good player having a below average game, or he wasn't particularly interested in winning that match. The one time he looks at the human base and it's an almost undefended all-tesla defense, but he doesn't immediately bring in a goon to snipe the DCC and go to town on the base?

I did like the pounce > 180 > snipe trickshot though.

Watch who played that game, there were semi-pro gamers so even jimbo had a hard time.
And Jimbo is not really interested in destroying defenses, he is more the human-chomping alien support.
PPL having specialisations, so they are not always winners of the game.

Howitzer

Okay, SLAVE, we get it.
Easy on the bitching now, no need to get cranky :D

I didn't thought it was that good either (and i tried tabbing to see the playerlist but it booted me back to menu -_- )

Rippy

Quote from: SLAVE|Mietz
Quote from: Rippy
Quote from: SLAVE|Mietzto follow a player, you need to know the console-commands, thats the point.

1. Join spectator mode
2. Press middle mouse button
3. Use scroll wheel to cycle through players

All it takes is to have tutorial mode on, and even an idiot can figure that out. o_O

Also I tried playing it and it just gave me the error "could not open demos/jimbo.dm_69"

then go away cry in the corner

Oh no, someone taught Mietz something blatantly obvious that he didn't know... I guess the only reaction to that would be to try to make fun of the guy who taught you something... :( I'm sad


Sarcasm aside, lighten up. There's no reason to get bitchy with people just because you were wrong on an issue that barely matters. On a serious note, I still can't get that demo working.. >_> I'll have to try recording a test one to see if I can view A demo, or if something is messed somehow.

*expects another "omg u suk leave this thred n00b go die" reply, e_e*
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

SLAVE|Mietz

Quote from: Rippy
Quote from: SLAVE|Mietz
Quote from: Rippy
Quote from: SLAVE|Mietzto follow a player, you need to know the console-commands, thats the point.

1. Join spectator mode
2. Press middle mouse button
3. Use scroll wheel to cycle through players

All it takes is to have tutorial mode on, and even an idiot can figure that out. o_O

Also I tried playing it and it just gave me the error "could not open demos/jimbo.dm_69"

then go away cry in the corner

Oh no, someone taught Mietz something blatantly obvious that he didn't know... I guess the only reaction to that would be to try to make fun of the guy who taught you something... :( I'm sad


Sarcasm aside, lighten up. There's no reason to get bitchy with people just because you were wrong on an issue that barely matters. On a serious note, I still can't get that demo working.. >_> I'll have to try recording a test one to see if I can view A demo, or if something is messed somehow.

*expects another "omg u suk leave this thred n00b go die" reply, e_e*

DID you copy the file into the demo folder like tremulous expects it?
DID you then (if not the above) specify the EXACT path to that file (including no typos etc. pp.)?
An EXACT path looks like this: C:\blahblah\xxx\tremulous\dingensteil\jimbo.dm_69

i'm so sorry that i never used the tutorial mode but configured my binds etc. by hand in the *.cfg files.
And i'm so sorry not to bother to use the middle key but use console commands insted because i feel more comfortable with.

SORRRIIIIIIEEEEEEEH!!!!

Rippy

Ah, I'd never recorded a demo before, so it never created the demos folder. Works fine in base2/demos, watching now.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

Belier13

This is the result of playing a whole month in your basement, outside of any kind of real life.

Could someone says gratz to Jimbo from me ?

Rippy

Yeah, I just don't understand how some people get so good at games >_> I suck as a goon, so this is pretty helpful.

These demos are a good idea, Mietz. Keep 'em up if you can.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

stahlsau

ah, Belier, my favourite troll ;)
Was about time for you to write something...i almost thought you'd troll in other forums now. Thank god you're still here ;)
/me hugs Belier13  :oops:

chompers

So Mietz, in spectator mode is there some command you can bind to jump straight to viewing a particular player? It would be really handy for the tutorial demo project if there is. Or do you just have weapnext and weapprev bound to something other than mousewheel?

SLAVE|Mietz

no i just type /follow <playername> i feel more comfortable with

stahlsau as marauder, not so leet, but gives the impression of how to play marauder (hit and run)


http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~adamkiew/stahlsau.dm_69

Rippy

The marauder one was only ok... mostly he just did suicide zap runs into the enemy base, and they just repaired everything in between. It shows both what to do, and what NOT to do unless you know you can pull it off.

Also, I recorded a short (>5 mins or so) demo of, ah, I forget his name, the Killaz guy who's name starts with "Bone". Either way, I recorded him as a Tyrant for a little while. I realise there isn't all that much finesse to the Tyrant, but it'd still be useful to newer players I think.

Either way, if you want it, just ask. Just thought I'd contribute what little demos I have o_O
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

SLAVE|Mietz

its "Trombone" i think if you mean him, and you can post it as long as it is relevant.

stahlsau

Quotestahlsau as marauder, not so leet, but gives the impression of how to play marauder (hit and run)

/me bitchslapps Mietz  :barricade:

Well, i suck with marauder. Maybe it would be better to show someone who rules with it. This is more a demo of how to NOT using it ;)

Rippy

Quote from: stahlsauWell, i suck with marauder. Maybe it would be better to show someone who rules with it. This is more a demo of how to NOT using it ;)

haha, that's what I was saying. Parts of it are well done, with the hit-and-run tactics as mentioned by Mietz, but the base attacks were almost as bad as me :P

See, I'm about average as each class... Which is annoying, I'd rather suck as Marauder and own as Dragoon or something, but instead I'm average with all of them... Maybe I'll start recording myself playing, on the rare chance that I have a super-1337 game >_>

Also, looking at it again, the tyrant demo isn't all that useful.. it's mostly just how to back off to recover hp. But if I see any good players owning as one evo, I'll be sure to try to record them.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

SLAVE|Mietz


Howitzer

How do you guys know you'll have a game worthy to record?
Or do you just record everything and hope you have a good game?
(i'm going to record some Adv/ Mara stuff too :D )