Increasing fps

[Raven927]

I always have like 50 fps but when I go to attack ro get attacked, it go to the teens. How ca  increase my fps.

[Caveman]

- getting a bigger CPU, preferably not VIA or Celeron
- getting mor than 128MB ram
- getting a decent VGA
- cleaning your system
- tweaking your conf as described in this here forum

[Raven927]

OK let me put up my cmputer specs, this should help.

Manufacturer:     
HP Pavilion 04
Processor:    
Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU 1400MHz
Memory:    
254MB RAM
Hard Drive:    
60 GB
Video Card:    
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
Monitor:    
hp pavilion mx50
Sound Card:    
Intel(r) Integrated Audio
Speakers/Headphones:    
Keyboard:    
USB Root Hub
Mouse:    
USB Root Hub
Mouse Surface:    
Operating System:    
Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)




I curently have no money, so new cards and the like are out of the queston.

[Caveman]

OK let me put up my cmputer specs, this should help.

Processor:    
Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU 1400MHz
Memory:    
254MB RAM
Sound Card:    
Intel(r) Integrated Audio

There we have your Problem.
- CPU is a celeron, meaning a castrated Pentium that would be only about 1000 to 1100 MHz compared to other CPUS. (remember this game depends more on your CPU than on your GPU)
-Your Ram is not enough, as you have a Intel Audio, which means that your Driver is doing all the work .)

If you don't want/can't spend any more money @moment my tip would be to go back to w2k or use linux as those do not take as much power from you as XP.
If that is not feasable either, clean up your system, uninstall _every_ service you don't need, get rid of those nice background-images (they like to take up to 3MB of ram, just to display a picture ). Clean & repair your registry. Short, streamline your OS.

[rasz_pl]

OK let me put up my cmputer specs, this should help.

Processor:    
Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU 1400MHz
Memory:    
254MB RAM
Sound Card:    
Intel(r) Integrated Audio

There we have your Problem.
- CPU is a celeron, meaning a castrated Pentium that would be only about 1000 to 1100 MHz compared to other CPUS. (remember this game depends more on your CPU than on your GPU)
-Your Ram is not enough, as you have a Intel Audio, which means that your Driver is doing all the work .)

1 not really, Celeron 1400 = Tualatin = 256KB L2 cache, 100MHz FSB = AMD XP 1600+ Performance = decent for Quake3, will do for Trem

2 Ram is OK, trem takes only about 150-200MB, XP should take ~50MB

3 Audio has ZERO performance impact

And now about the main problem :
I found your post here http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?p=2285359#2285359

and well, bad news, You got served with a "Business computer for running M$ Office" and nothing else :]
1 i810E = worst intel chipset ever since FX
2 GeForce4 MX 440 = poo

There is nothing you can do with this computer other than upgrading to new one.
You can do it on a cheap upgrading mobo/cpu/ram/power supply/gf/case if yours is a miniATX (I suspect it is).
Go buy Sempron/Venice 3000 and ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 combo, this CPU will OC to 2.4GHz out of the box. Buy 1GB of ram and GF6600GT and you will be set for a year of current crop of games.

If you are desperate on money then you can go to bios and try to set
CAS Latency, RAS to CAS and RAS Precharge to 2 (default is "default" or 3-3-3), or/and bump FSB a little (to 112MHz wouldnt hurt your system).
Installing Ubuntu wont hurt you either.

[Karvajalka]

His computer is almost same as mine O.o, and I have now problems with Tremulous (with some expections), The most major difference is that I have AMD Athlon +2000 and Win2000

[rasz_pl]

His computer is almost same as mine O.o, and I have now problems with Tremulous (with some expections), The most major difference is that I have AMD Athlon +2000 and Win2000

well not really
1 100MHz FSB != 133MHz FSB
2 Anything that can handle XP2000+ beats the living shit out of i810 with respect to memory bandwidth/latency (>=KT133A)

so the most important thing for Quake3 (memory-cpu speed) is far superior in your case

[[EVIL]Unknown]

windows xp always has a shitload of other useless processes running that will take up a crapload of memory to start off with... then u got ur video taking up some and tremulous is a beast that will take up around 120mb of memory usage so running the game sucks up half of ur total memory right there...with everthing else running its obvious to c that u will have problems...

what i did to get trem to run good on a shitty computer with xp was i went to a site like this one that describes all or most of windows processes http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ and

look up all your processes from windows task manager and c what is important and not important... then get rid of all the crap u dont need... free up as much ram as u can..dont forget about spyware and malware and crap like that..

i would recommend getting a slight bit better processor and some more ram.. also lowering vid settings should help a bit..

-hope this somewhat helps  

[Shaydee]

I always have like 50 fps but when I go to attack ro get attacked, it go to the teens. How ca  increase my fps.

Just a wild guess: It's a RAM / video RAM issue. If your CPU were too slow, then you'd most likely experience a constantly low framerate. And if your harddrive is working a lot while you are playing, then it is most likely a RAM issue. If its not, then it's probably a video RAM issue (although I doubt this, since you seriously do not have much RAM, while your gfx card looks rather okay).

P.S.: If you are using windows, then I do recommend upgrading your RAM either way. 256mb sticks have become rather cheap, and it'd improve your system a lot. Of course, 512mb or even 1gig of additional RAM would be better. But just tripling your RAM will probably increase the performance of your computer a lot (especially if you often hear the harddisk do random things, while you are not even accessing it).

[Teiman]

Yesterday:

I have buy Quake4 and installed. The game barellys run at 1 or 4 FPS. The sound mutters horribly with buffer overflows everywhere.

 - I have modified the AGP size from 64MB to 128MB
The gain whas like 10 FPS.
 - I have changed the engine from ALSA to OSS
The gain whas amazing. And now we can play Quake4 "smootly" at 40FPS/30FPS.

Because Quake4 and Tremulous are brothers, I guest to try both changes. More AGP averture If you have lots of ram, and try the OSS server.

On NVidia theres also a "quality" control. But seems to force NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR even for games that try to use LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR, and nowdays LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR is like the minimun you sould admit from a decent setup. ( I admit 40 FPS, but NEAREST looks like crap )

[rasz_pl]

>Just a wild guess: It's a RAM / video RAM issue.

no

> If your CPU were too slow, then you'd most likely experience a constantly low framerate.

no, only when particle system is used (lucy spam for example, or blowing up structures)

> And if your harddrive is working a lot while you are playing, then it is most likely a RAM issue.

yes, but that would be <4fps

> If its not, then it's probably a video RAM issue

no, quake3 is CPU bound

>P.S.: If you are using windows, then I do recommend upgrading your
>RAM either way. 256mb sticks have become rather cheap, and it'd
>improve your system a lot. Of course, 512mb or even 1gig of additional
>RAM would be better.

not THAT ram (SDR) , plus i810 cant handle more than 512mb

> But just tripling your RAM will probably increase the performance of your computer a lot

not really

[rasz_pl]

Yesterday:

>Because Quake4 and Tremulous are brothers

No they are not, different engines

[SlingerX2]

Well I play trem extremely fine and my comp is a shadow in comparision to all of yours...

Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~790MHz
Memory: 248MB RAM
Hard Drive: 20 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
Monitor: Philips 109S (109S2)
Sound Card: VIA Audio (WAVE)
Operating System: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2

I mean, look... not even 1k mhz! tiny and i get 40+ fps at all times on fastest quality. Can't be your RAM, mine's the same and it works fine for me...  :oops: My harddrive is small
Lol, I bet this post helped you in no way and it was just to show off that my crap comp can run trem fine.

[rasz_pl]

Well I play trem extremely fine and my comp is a shadow in comparision to all of yours...

Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~790MHz
Memory: 248MB RAM
Hard Drive: 20 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
Monitor: Philips 109S (109S2)
Sound Card: VIA Audio (WAVE)
Operating System: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2

I mean, look... not even 1k mhz! tiny and i get 40+ fps at all times on fastest quality. Can't be your RAM, mine's the same and it works fine for me...  :oops: My harddrive is small
Lol, I bet this post helped you in no way and it was just to show off that my crap comp can run trem fine.

ok I dont believe you
go to this place on uncreation
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13fps9tr.jpg
get a blaster and shot those 4 buildings (2 turds and 2 teles), take a screenshot
I predict 4-9fps

[Mikiupdown2]

(2 turds and 2 teles)

We have turds in Tremulous?   (apart from the TK'ers, obviously)

[rasz_pl]

(2 turds and 2 teles)

We have turds in Tremulous?   (apart from the TK'ers, obviously)

turds they are, thats my final word
remember it next time you see a hen sitting on one

[SlingerX2]

Well I play trem extremely fine and my comp is a shadow in comparision to all of yours...

Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~790MHz
Memory: 248MB RAM
Hard Drive: 20 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
Monitor: Philips 109S (109S2)
Sound Card: VIA Audio (WAVE)
Operating System: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2

I mean, look... not even 1k mhz! tiny and i get 40+ fps at all times on fastest quality. Can't be your RAM, mine's the same and it works fine for me...  :oops: My harddrive is small
Lol, I bet this post helped you in no way and it was just to show off that my crap comp can run trem fine.

ok I dont believe you
go to this place on uncreation
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13fps9tr.jpg
get a blaster and shot those 4 buildings (2 turds and 2 teles), take a screenshot
I predict 4-9fps

oh well i nvr played on uncreation b4, lol and nvr gonna again... god i had like <10 fps whole game whenever i saw enemy or moved... lmao