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sirshiz

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Defensive Structures' Ranges/Lines of Sight/Area of Effect
« on: March 23, 2011, 04:09:06 pm »
Is there an up-to-date (GPP) guide on the ranges of the various defensive structures?  :acidtube:  :hive:  :tesla:  :trapper:  :turret:

I recall a while back a few images of the line of sight of trappers and such but I can't find it and it was for 1.1 anyway.

Also would there be anyway to show this visually in-game? It would be useful in devmap but I also think it would help newbies figure out how to make a more efficient base faster. If a trapper's line of sight is shown they might be less likely to build it on the floor and if an acid tube range is shown they wouldn't build it way up high on the ceiling (hopefully).

Thanks for reading.
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Meisseli

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Re: Defensive Structures' Ranges/Lines of Sight/Area of Effect
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2011, 04:11:26 pm »
http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=14355.msg207167#msg207167 should be up to date, as to the in-game visuals, probably as with the buildable outlines it would be practically impossible to do, although I'm no expert.
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sirshiz

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Re: Defensive Structures' Ranges/Lines of Sight/Area of Effect
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2011, 04:18:22 pm »
Thank you for that information Meis.
It is helpful but I'm more of a visual learner for most things as I am sure others are as well.
Also that information doesn't really tell me when the structures become useful. Sometimes you can be less than a foot away from an acid tube and actually SEE the acid tube but because of the way the bounding boxes are (I'm guessing) you don't get hurt AT ALL. Edit: this is usually when you are around the corner from an acid tube.
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Meisseli

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Re: Defensive Structures' Ranges/Lines of Sight/Area of Effect
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2011, 05:13:40 pm »
Quote from: sirshiz on March 23, 2011, 04:18:22 pm
Thank you for that information Meis.
It is helpful but I'm more of a visual learner for most things as I am sure others are as well.
Also that information doesn't really tell me when the structures become useful. Sometimes you can be less than a foot away from an acid tube and actually SEE the acid tube but because of the way the bounding boxes are (I'm guessing) you don't get hurt AT ALL. Edit: this is usually when you are around the corner from an acid tube.

To my knowledge the buildables target/damage you when the middle of the hitbox "sees" you, not counting the tesla generator, which quote:

Quote from: Norfenstein on September 12, 2009, 05:47:39 pm
  • fires from the top of its bounding box to the top of its target's bounding box (can now fire over turrets)
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Nux

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Re: Defensive Structures' Ranges/Lines of Sight/Area of Effect
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2011, 05:28:40 pm »
Also that doesn't say anything about trapper 'cone of effect'. I'd guess it's a 45° angle from forward.
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Re: Defensive Structures' Ranges/Lines of Sight/Area of Effect
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2011, 05:41:35 pm »
Quote from: Nux on March 23, 2011, 05:28:40 pm
Also that doesn't say anything about trapper 'cone of effect'. I'd guess it's a 45° angle from forward.
IIRC 30° (someone wiser confirm).
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