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dormedas

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« on: August 06, 2006, 07:19:01 pm »
I think there should be some sort of advanced dretch since there is an advanced almost everything in the game.

Ideas: (A compilation of all Ideas and suggestions)

Night Vision Dretch :dretch:
Darker Colored Dretch :dretch:
The two listed above could mix to become the Adv. Dretch. :dretch:
Dretch has 10 more HP
Runs a little slower

[Off Subject but relevant]Adv. Rifle Ideas???:
A little more damage :helmet:
Slightly larger magazine :helmet:
Faster ROF
Alternatively to an ADV. Rifle, a pack that aids your rifle, such as advanced clips upgrade for 100 Creds, that extends your clip, advanced ROF upgrade for 150 creds etc.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2006, 08:25:18 pm »
adv dretch :: headcrab

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2006, 08:38:36 pm »
adv, dretch = poo

dormedas

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2006, 10:38:57 pm »
Aren't we feeling mature today?
Any *better* ideas, or better *discussion*...?
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2006, 10:49:03 pm »
night vision dretch would be pointless as there are no pitch black map areas



the game is balanced

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 01:16:53 am »
adv dretch has been brought up half a dozen times. It likely ain't happening.

In all truth, everything described thus far as 'adv dretch discussion' is summed up in the existing class: basilisk.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 12:49:32 am »
adv dretch = face hugger from alien. headshot = instadeath for both players.
dretch needs a really long tounge  :roll:
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 02:24:45 am »
ADV. dretch same size as a balistik but abel to fly and shoot a acid ball out of its mouth but abel to bite harder take more damage away and is black whit red stripe on belly kinda like a black widow and has 75 hp :dretch:  :dretch:  :basilisk:  :basilisk: i think it was a good sum of every thing u guys have said.... :D
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2006, 02:49:36 am »
Quote from: "DEUK"
ADV. dretch same size as a balistik but abel to fly and shoot a acid ball out of its mouth but abel to bite harder take more damage away and is black whit red stripe on belly kinda like a black widow and has 75 hp :dretch:  :dretch:  :basilisk:  :basilisk: i think it was a good sum of every thing u guys have said.... :D


Uhh, no.
And.. what is a balistik? Ballistic may be a cool word, but i've never heard of one in trem >_>.

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2006, 03:37:18 am »
Uh, no.

The lisk is the adv dretch.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2006, 03:42:15 am »
K, well if the Basilisk is the adv. Dretch then why is there an Adv. Adv. Dretch, eh?
And the Basilisk being the Adv. Dretch doesn't make sense since
Dretch
Basilisk <<Not same model
Adv. Basilisk <<Same model
Marauder'
Adv. Marauder <<Same Model Different Texture
Dragoon
Adv. Dragoon <<Same Model Different Texture
Tyrant
Granger
Adv. Granger <<Same Model(I think)
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2006, 11:32:08 am »
Dretch is the advanced dretch...
If your looking to have an advanced everything.. just retexture it and give it a little more health. It doesn't need anything else.. its already a super killing machine.

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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2006, 04:03:27 pm »
Do you know how powerful a dretch is because you don't need to bite?
ONLY thing you worry about is movement, the game does the rest by biting automaticly.
You don't have to try to get the jump and (click to make the dretch) bite synchronous to get the max effect..

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2006, 01:29:24 am »
Aliens: Advanced Dretch, available in s3, has 35 hp

Humans: Spawn with free light armour, cannot be sold, light armour removed from armoury buy list (obviously)

There we go, two small improvements to give late joiners more of a chance, without directly improving their attack power. So, all it's doing is giving them a chance to survive a liiiittle bit longer, to get that extra kill so they can evo.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2006, 10:12:55 am »
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Humans: Spawn with free light armour, cannot be sold, light armour removed from armoury buy list (obviously)


Tell me, how do humans get b-suits after this if they can't sell their light armour?
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2006, 10:31:38 am »
What amuses me is how he thinks light armor is equal to 10 hitpoints.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2006, 03:00:47 pm »
lol adv. doesnt seem like too much of a good idea though
theres nothing wrong with the dretch now
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2006, 04:08:38 pm »
Quote from: "kozak6"
What amuses me is how he thinks light armor is equal to 10 hitpoints.

Forgive me for not being able to accurately balance my idea, it's kind of hard when it's only in your head and isn't being playtested in the game. Besides, armour doesn't protect the head so you're still at 4hp if a dretch bites you there, which isn't too hard. Maybe 40 hp then? Any more than that and it's just a basi.

Anyway, the idea is to give the free units, excluding builders, a bit more defense/hp so they can survive a little longer. And Oz, good point, didn't think of that >_> Now I'm not too sure how a free armour system would work, since it'd be tough finding a plausible way to prevent other weapons being used with it. But armour seems like the best way to do it, since improving the rifle itself would cause bigger issues imo (I mean, it's already 2 or 3 bullet kill on dretches, 1 or 2 bullet would be pretty cheap)

Hmm... I mean, you could change light armour's name to "medium armour" and then in s3 change the Rifle to "Rifle + light armour" (weaker than current light armour), but these changes would make people stay rifle/dretch to earn creds instead of taking a risk and buying one of the cheaper weps/evos first. Only alternative I'd thought of was to have late joiners get a few free creds/EP when they join, but I'm guessing there would be easy ways to abuse that.

lol, I like how the entire direction of this post went from "how my idea should be tweaked" to "my idea would be hard to implement" to "my idea sucks" to "other ideas". o_O I do that sometimes.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2006, 04:14:34 pm »
Your way off. Rifle does 5pts of damage per bullet and thus needs 5 hits to kill a Dretch.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2006, 04:18:55 pm »
adv dretch is not needed dretch is the basic alien just as rifle is basic
u can go adv everything in the game adv tyrants(they cant advance either)
oh but to fight the adv tyrant u need adv batllesuit and adv lucys
oh but they got adv lucys i need to build adv eggs so they dont blow up in one shot oh nooooo i must have adv everything

game is balanced like it is
the fact aliens mostly rock hummies ass is because of the players playing alien

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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2006, 04:31:20 pm »
I think I've got the perfect idea for an Adv Dretch. After all, what is the most important thing for a dretch ? It's its fast speed that makes it hard to hit. Thinking about that, the solution is evident ! The Adv Dretch should be x1000 faster than a Dretch ! Think of all the implications ! This is the perfect solution.

( but please, make it optional, I prefet to keep my regular Dretch myself ;) )
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2006, 04:32:30 pm »
Quote from: "Rippy"
improving the rifle itself would cause bigger issues imo
when i first saw this idea my first thought was dretches get 10 more hp, humans get 10 more ammo/clip in the rifle.
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2006, 05:23:46 pm »
Quote from: "kevlarman"
Quote from: "Rippy"
improving the rifle itself would cause bigger issues imo
when i first saw this idea my first thought was dretches get 10 more hp, humans get 10 more ammo/clip in the rifle.


hmm..... seems fair enough I guess.

And my bad, just checked up on the stats thread, it IS 5 damage per bullet.. But I could swear I usually go from 25 to 15 hp, I guess it's just easy for 2 bullets to hit in a row
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2006, 03:38:40 am »
Adv. Dretch?

Silly idea.

Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful

It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.

Pros - fun to try out

Cons- Canada might not like it...

...

and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk  :P

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2006, 11:29:01 am »
Adv. Dretch should have a mini rocket launcher on it's side, like Jame Bond's car.

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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2006, 12:14:44 pm »
Not that i want to interfere with others topics, but what about an
 advanced- flying-exploding-headbutting-dretch?
It would blow the head of human players when landing close to it.

Such adv.dretch could be nicknamed Zizou or.... not.

/me goes out.

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2006, 01:17:09 pm »


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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2006, 02:50:29 pm »
Quote from: "Nux"
Adv. Dretch?

Silly idea.

Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful

It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.

Pros - fun to try out

Cons- Canada might not like it...

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and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk  :P

Go ahead, try it. You'll realise that not only do we have explosive firepower that noone knew we had, but we also won't hesitate to use them.

*American uses adv Tyrant*
*Nukes get launched towards every major american city*
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2006, 02:58:00 pm »
Quote from: "Rippy"
Quote from: "Nux"
Adv. Dretch?

Silly idea.

Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful

It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.

Pros - fun to try out

Cons- Canada might not like it...

...

and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk  :P

Go ahead, try it. You'll realise that not only do we have explosive firepower that noone knew we had, but we also won't hesitate to use them.

*American uses adv Tyrant*
*Nukes get launched towards every major american city*


:O An American using MY designs?!?

Those American DASTARDS!!

(I'm from england babeh :wink: )

P.S. I Like Canada and the Canadians I know aren't half-bad (my own daddy for example)

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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2006, 06:51:18 pm »
Quote from: "Nux"
P.S. I Like Canada and the Canadians I know aren't half-bad (my own daddy for example)

We're basically a slightly less obese, rude, and warm U.S. :D And our politicians do nothing instead of doing the wrong things
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