Yet another basi suggestion.

[Bajsefar]

Oh well, i have seen it, whenever someone makes a suggestion to make the basi better, people tend to respond like this:

Basi is HIGHLY underrated. There are Basi players that RAPE hummies till S3 (inf'Epik)
Basi kills S1 hummie in 2 (TWO) swipes to the head, just like dretch + basi swipe range = marauder range.

Which is all well and good.

But what i think a basi should have to make it, not necessarily better- just less frustrating is: the posibility to use its wallcrawl ability on gripped humans.

this would make it *kinda* easier to use , but not enough to really call it an upgrade, eh?

if this would be possible, the basi would just be less frustrating. it is not this that one normally dies on with a basi, it is when other humans see you gripping one of them and peppers you.


maybe to allow this to be done, it could recieve a slight health or dmg nerf, or only make this "humancrawling" possible for the adv basi, which really isnt worth the extra evo point.

Oh, and for all of you who would have thought to flame me, YE WILL BE USING THIS PRODUCT OF PERSONAL HYGIENA FOR ALL ETERNITY!



( i made it in pshop yesterday)

[Bajsefar]

Soooo, seems nobody dares to answer, after my horrible threat about having to use sandpaper toilet paper!

dont be shy!

maybe everybody were just going to flame anyways, because that was what the threat was about.

[0z]

I my opinion that "sandpaper" looks like leather :P

[SlingerX2]

Soooo, seems nobody dares to answer, after my horrible threat about having to use sandpaper toilet paper!

dont be shy!

maybe everybody were just going to flame anyways, because that was what the threat was about.

people probaly haved replied because the baslisk is meant to be the way it is, and you just look like you are complaining that you aren't good enough at it, so you need some help. Really sorry, but its just another OMFG BASI!!! thread with the same general statement: "I'm not good at basi and I want it to be more powerful so I'M good at it."
Also, not everyone is online at one time to reply to a topic. :wink:

[Bajsefar]

people probaly haved replied because the baslisk is meant to be the way it is, and you just look like you are complaining that you aren't good enough at it, so you need some help. Really sorry, but its just another OMFG BASI!!! thread with the same general statement: "I'm not good at basi and I want it to be more powerful so I'M good at it."
Also, not everyone is online at one time to reply to a topic. :wink:

Well, that's actually not so... ..i am better with the basi than much of the
other alien classes, it is just some irritating events have bugged me off.
the basi easily dies, it is a large target, and moves slower than the dretch.
 
Sure, it has more health, but it is so infinitely much easier to hit than a dretch.

In addition, a basi works best alone, as the method for efficiently slaughtering people with the basi is quoted: "grab, walk around him, jump on the head, and gently pat pat pat."

It is hard for a basi to go around a human, when a mara is hopping about slashing at him and dretches are blocking the sides, as they tend to do since loners draw aliens like shit draws flies.

so when you find yourself shot at (youre standing directly in front of the hummie, and blocked, you die FAST!

so, what i am suggesting, is a minor tweak to the basi, to make those encounters less irritating, and possibly just be a thing for the advanced basi, that is quite well known, not much of a differnece.

Grab, climb over, stand on head, pat pat pat. this would make it easier for basis to gain kills in maps like Acts, where humans do get quite overrun by aliens.

also, this is only a suggestin, as i can by now manage the basi quite okay, it is only that it is so freaking easy (and irritating) to be blocked while being a basi, since it VERY quicly burn away those 75 hp points. (it is 75, right?)

Edit:

I my opinion that "sandpaper" looks like leather

But it is actual sandpaper, i found a pic o a piece of sandpaper, and shaped it to my needs. also the side of the paper roll is from a sand paper roll.

[kozak6]

I'd try leather toilet paper.  That sounds rather interesting.

Might clog up the toilet, though.

Oh, and I wish the basi was more useful.  I doubt we'll see any serious changes, though.

[Bajsefar]

though the wallwalk thingy would not be a very dramatic change.

[AllmanBros]

Oh well, i have seen it, whenever someone makes a



( i made it in pshop yesterday)

I think you would rather have them use this:

[rasz_pl]

though the wallwalk thingy would not be a very dramatic change.

 We just spoke about it yesterday with Karvis. Aliens CANT crawl on buildings, humans and other aliens. If they could they would swarm a hummie just like ants swarm your legs if you shit in the woods.
For dretch it would be a killer ability, just stick to BS back and kill him slowly. On the other hand imagine a hummie running arround with a Basi on his back :]
It is very interesting proposition, no idea if its doable(propably no, BBOXes cant rotate dynamically?).

[Teiman]

For dretch it would be a killer ability, just stick to BS back and kill him slowly. On the other hand imagine a hummie running arround with a Basi on his back :]
It is very interesting proposition, no idea if its doable(propably no, BBOXes cant rotate dynamically?).

I dont think you need to use a bbox for the "sickified" alien. Only sticky the model itself (that will be network expensive, but who cares? and may looks somewhat unsynced).  Its like these QuakeWorld mod with big heads, that are a separate model.
The "infested marine" idea will be boincing on the forums for a few more years, and maybe finally be implemented on a mod. I think.

[Neo]

You did read the part about basi ownly right?

[Rippy]

I say the adv basi fart should hang in the air for 5 seconds after being released, and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the basi to charge up his next wet one. Any human who walks into the cloud while it's hanging there gets affected by it as normal. It'd let basis help themselves, and other aliens, retreat without being pursued. And, so that a basi can't just sit right outside a vent continuously spraying to prevent humans from entering, well, just run in with a helmet.

I dunno, I think the basi is fine right now, it's the adv basi that just isn't worth 2 creds. Adv marauders are as good as goons (although in a very different way), and Adv goons are as good as Tyrants, it's just the Adv basi that is much worse than the marauder.

[rasz_pl]

I say the adv basi fart should hang in the air for 5 seconds after being released, and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the basi to charge up his next wet one. Any human who walks into the cloud while it's hanging there gets affected by it as normal. It'd let basis help themselves, and other aliens, retreat without being pursued. And, so that a basi can't just sit right outside a vent continuously spraying to prevent humans from entering, well, just run in with a helmet.

I dunno, I think the basi is fine right now, it's the adv basi that just isn't worth 2 creds. Adv marauders are as good as goons (although in a very different way), and Adv goons are as good as Tyrants, it's just the Adv basi that is much worse than the marauder.

or maybe ordinary basi is just too good? I play ordinary basi exclusivelly till alien S3 for 2 weeks now I think. Its just great. You never run out of evo, kill humans fast, make them angry/hepeless/helpless, embarass them (when they die larmoured/prifled). I go adr.mara only when its HOT (>3 humans attack base and my team is useless) or when I decide to end the game quickly just after getting S2 and humans have stupid builder/dont have one at all/are moving.

[Rippy]

or maybe ordinary basi is just too good? I play ordinary basi exclusivelly till alien S3 for 2 weeks now I think. Its just great. You never run out of evo, kill humans fast, make them angry/hepeless/helpless, embarass them (when they die larmoured/prifled). I go adr.mara only when its HOT (>3 humans attack base and my team is useless) or when I decide to end the game quickly just after getting S2 and humans have stupid builder/dont have one at all/are moving.

If you're as good as you say, make a thread on basi skillz, especially how to take on >1 human with one.

lol, that sounded like I'm challenging your skill, but I'm not. I just like the basi, but I'm only good with it against 1 human when he doesn't see me til I'm close.

[rasz_pl]

or maybe ordinary basi is just too good? I play ordinary basi exclusivelly till alien S3 for 2 weeks now I think. Its just great. You never run out of evo, kill humans fast, make them angry/hepeless/helpless, embarass them (when they die larmoured/prifled). I go adr.mara only when its HOT (>3 humans attack base and my team is useless) or when I decide to end the game quickly just after getting S2 and humans have stupid builder/dont have one at all/are moving.

If you're as good as you say, make a thread on basi skillz, especially how to take on >1 human with one.

-get between your victim and the rest of the humans and pray they dont like your victim
-you are the agro maker, use your health as a tank, dont be affraid to get shot, be in control of your health (let human shot you a little)
-RUN like hell if your victims weapon can kill you faster than you can dodge (example:shotgun, you didnt grab him/he got lose/he has friends, you are <40hp)

I can upload some demos if you like, hmmm bzzz bzzz bzzz thers one where I owned Lava two days ago.

Few notes:
- I had a great, experienced builder Oz
- in first >10 minutes I die only once as a dretch
- I got mara 2 times to burn evos, bad idea
- Lava got 2-3 lamers, I got only 1-2
- 15:40 DONT be nice to your teammates, they ARE lame (most of the time), they dont use BRAINZZzzz, will TK you or let you die
- 17:20 Thats what you do when your victim has friends (lame friends) :] HAHA

http://strony.aster.pl/nonnon/20060809164822-62.75.251.215.30720-arachnid2.dm_69 [4MB]

[Bajsefar]

I am astonished! i have been away for four days, and mind you, this tread has not gone into complete offtopicness! oh, well, i have a lot to comment.

For those who say the basi is good as it is, but the adv basi is not worth 2 extra evo points:

my suggestion could be for adv. basi, and everyone would be happy... ..right?

For the people who say that basi owns: of course it does, if a class or weapon or anything like it is special enough to be good, but not obviously, there will always be some gamers who grow interested, yes, almost obsessed with the class/weapon or whatever, so that other gamers can go "OMG, HOW CAN YUO BE GOOD WITH THAT WEAPON/CLASS ETC. IT SUCKS! MAN HOW I REPSECT U!"

sooo, i think that is kind of silly, but really not of any importance; if someone owns with the adv basi, but does not own much less with the norm. basi, i think it still needs a small upgrade. (adv basi, that is.)

As for the guy who mentioned a human RUNNING with a basi stuck on him: i did not mean for the basi to be able to walk a moving hummie, only a grabbed, stationary one.

To the suggestion for even more evil toilet paper: Yes, they sould, but it seems mostly everyone has been nice in this topic, maybe they heeded my warning. XD

Edit: i am sorry if i revived the post a bit: i was not sure on the date today, but now i see that i may have revived slightly. oh nevermind, it isnt like it was a month old anyways.

[Juno]

the moment a basi touches a human it grabs him




your suggestion is to make the basi be able to walk up a human so that it can swipe the head


for one, that would almost always result in the human dying as the human cant shoot at his face to get him off


secondly, a vigilante massdriver will more than likely try and snipe off a basi, ie TK headshots

also, that removes the slight advantage that a bsuit has in that it can turn when grabbed


imo the basi would become almost invincible

[Bajsefar]

The basi is, after all able to jump and walk around a grabbed hummie, so no, it would not be very dramatical, or make the basi nearly invincible. and headshots; the basi is able to jump upon a head now? what is the VERY big difference, except that the adv. basi is actually going to be a little more meat for the money.