Poll

How to treat 'UnnamedPlayer'

Give him a hug
4 (12.9%)
Give him the boot
1 (3.2%)
Give him advice
20 (64.5%)
Give him hell
6 (19.4%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: August 13, 2006, 12:56:58 am

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Nux

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« on: August 13, 2006, 12:56:58 am »
UnnamedPlayer #1 (or n00bs):

They do stupid things. They can do things to wreck an entire game occasionally. They can really piss some people off.

-But-

Why all the hate? Why kick someone for being new? ...Or flame them for doing wrong? Those first impressions could really put someone off a game.

Can't some figurative slack be figuratively cut? It is a game afterall (is one match really that important?) and shouldn't that hate be reserved for UnnamedPlayer #2?

UnnamedPlayer #2 (or F***ing **** of a *******):

Just there to cause greif and upset. Deconning random building. Tking. That sort of thing.

The problem their is figuring out which kind of 'UnnamedPlayer' he is.. a good way of finding out is talking to the guy before you condemn him.

Just a spare couple of cents I had (not sure where I picked them up =S).

kevlarman

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Re: 'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2006, 01:04:14 am »
Quote from: "Nux"
UnnamedPlayer #1 (or n00bs):

They do stupid things. They can do things to wreck an entire game occasionally. They can really piss some people off.

-But-

Why all the hate? Why kick someone for being new? ...Or flame them for doing wrong? Those first impressions could really put someone off a game.

Can't some figurative slack be figuratively cut? It is a game afterall (is one match really that important?) and shouldn't that hate be reserved for UnnamedPlayer #2?

UnnamedPlayer #2 (or F***ing **** of a *******):

Just there to cause greif and upset. Deconning random building. Tking. That sort of thing.

The problem their is figuring out which kind of 'UnnamedPlayer' he is.. a good way of finding out is talking to the guy before you condemn him.

Just a spare couple of cents I had (not sure where I picked them up =S).
a lot of griefers like to use the name UnnamedPlayer because it is really hard to kick them when there are 3 unnameds on the server. you also forgot an option: give him a !rename. I will usually be tolerant of formerly-unnamedplayers as long as they are willing to put away the construction kit or evolve from granger, n00bs messing up the good builder on the team piss me off though.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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KorJax

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2006, 01:04:32 am »
Play nutural.

As in, dont do anything, just ingnore, unless he does somghitn intelligent or stupid.  I will always give advice first if i see a unnamed player who is completely helpless.  If they play mime on me (as in, dont respond), and continue to be idiotic, i will then proceed to deservingly flame them.  If everyone is yelling at him to get a reality check and its still not getting through (as in, he isnt actually playing the game at this point, he is just messing around and mabey accidentally screwing the team over whilst he does this), then I VK.

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2006, 01:27:53 am »
Here's an actual suggestion to the devs: Give us a "new player" menu that pops up the first time the game is run, like in Wolf: ET, so they can choose a name. I'd rather address them as a name, not "UnnamedPlayer", mostly because there are often multiple UnnamedPlayers in the game at once, and telling them to do something is a bitch.

Nux

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Re: 'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2006, 05:19:47 am »
Quote from: "kevlarman"
you also forgot an option: give him a !rename..


Yes. That would solve the 'unnamed' part of the problem, but the 'player' part is still unsolved. You can take the 'UnnamedPlayer' out of the unnamed player... but you can't...

...errr...

>_>

<_<

Nice suggestion Odin!

SLAVE|Mietz

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2006, 05:29:20 am »
I just wanted to state that:

I DONT GIVE A FUCK!!!

Nux

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2006, 05:38:03 am »
Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"
I just wanted to state that:

I DONT GIVE A FUCK!!!


..and yet you give a reply :P

kevlarman

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2006, 05:42:55 am »
Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"
I just wanted to state that:

I DONT GIVE A FUCK!!!
your comment reminds me... !rename unnamed ^6Ponies!!!
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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Catalyc

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2006, 05:59:24 am »
"Slap him with the manual" needs to be an option
ttp://tremmapping.pbwiki.com/

Glunnator

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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2006, 02:14:01 pm »
Quote from: "Catalyc"
"Slap him with the manual" needs to be an option

I'd prefer saying: slap him with advice! :P

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SLAVE|Mietz

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2006, 02:16:04 pm »
Quote from: "Glunnator"
Quote from: "Catalyc"
"Slap him with the manual" needs to be an option

I'd prefer saying: slap him with advice! :P


slapping him with a goon maybe

next_ghost

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2006, 03:37:34 pm »
You can also hit them with clue-by-four. I did that an hour ago when a bunch of noob builders removed all turrets and built only teslas at the entrances on niveus. After explaining why it's a BAD idea, I asked aliens to show them what happens to such bases. Adv mara came in, destroyed unprotected defcomp and died. After we'd managed to repel alien rush, we rebuilt the base to have at least some working defenses and wiped aliens out of the map.
If my answer to your problem doesn't seem helpful, it means I won't help you until you show some effort to fix your problem yourself!
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Nux

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2006, 04:05:31 pm »
There were more options actually.. but they mysteriously disappeared.

It's good to see that most of us give advice.

(though alot of you seem to also want to give them large flaming chunks of hell as a side-order).

So what about the scapegoating? It seems that every second match I hear 'My team's crammed with n00bs', 'Those n00bish feeders lost us the match'. Surely they're not trying to die. Any thoughts?

Jaradcel

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2006, 05:41:17 pm »
I generally shout a bit "Hey WTF are you doing deconning my turret?" and if he doesn't respond, I VK.

I do give grace though, and wait for a person to talk back. I also try different languages sometimes (IE when the base isn't under attack) "just in case" he doesn't understand English.

I even (sometimes) tell them that the "T" and "Y" key are there to chat with.

But if they remain silent, its VK for them.

If they DO respond, I'm usually more then happy to teach them since that sure as hell beats staring at the turret waiting to get attacked to repair it, as anyone who's played with me teaching newbies should know by now :P
TOP DRETCHING THE ENGINEER!!!! =(
And fer christsake, DON'T BUILD IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!

Zakky

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'UnnamedPlayer'
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2006, 06:01:40 pm »
If someone asks, i'll help

Otherwise i'll just continue playing the game in my own merry little way
oo!