Problem with the saw and Battlesuit combo.

[Dj_Pong]

Well i like to use Bsuit and saw combo to kill those dragoons but...

 :eek: Basilisks just own me! They just grab me and kill me slowly... I cant reach them when i use my saw to kill them! imo its sucks.. A friggin saw can own goons mauds and tyrants but not a ***king basilisk?

Also the saw and Bsuit combo sucks when attacking overmind.. In niveaus i always jump down right on the overmind to saw it (if aliens didn't move it) But with a Bsuit you cant crouch so attacking the overmind while you on his "head" is not possible also! (I jump on his "head" because if aliens attack they will also damage the overmind   )

Hope to see some NICE responds.

[SLAVE|Mietz]

Well i like to use Bsuit and saw combo to kill those dragoons but...

 :eek: Basilisks just own me! They just grab me and kill me slowly... I cant reach them when i use my saw to kill them! imo its sucks.. A friggin saw can own goons mauds and tyrants but not a ***king basilisk?

Also the saw and Bsuit combo sucks when attacking overmind.. In niveaus i always jump down right on the overmind to saw it (if aliens didn't move it) But with a Bsuit you cant crouch so attacking the overmind while you on his "head" is not possible also! (I jump on his "head" because if aliens attack they will also damage the overmind   )

Hope to see some NICE responds.

You can aim with the painsaw down, i think that works, at least for me.

[FX-Arch]

Thats why aliens love Basilisks  :oops:

[Seffylight]

I always Bas noob saw + battlesuits that I see running around on their own. The system is fine, increasing saw range would cause big problems with the saw's balance.

[PHREAK]

That's why you always bring a nade.

[Juno]

only attack with someone else?

( basi's being the reason i never leave the base alone or without a helmet)


dont jump on the om's head?


it takes like 4 seconds to kill it, it wouldnt hurt to go on the floor and just run around the back or the side

[Lava Croft]

Ha ha ha.

[stahlsau]

mmh..i really doubt you can't hit a basi with ps and bs. Really. I mean, you can hit dretches running on the ground.

[Kadreal]

I was thinking you'd complain cause you can get BS + painsaw and then sprint past any aliens since your faster and mow down their OM before they know what hit them....

[Stof]

mmh..i really doubt you can't hit a basi with ps and bs. Really. I mean, you can hit dretches running on the ground.

Well that's easy : basilisk has mor grab and swipe range than the painsaw Just let the BS user run at you and if the server doesn't forget to check the basilisk grab, you'll have one BS stuck just out of range of you.

[Rippy]

mmh..i really doubt you can't hit a basi with ps and bs. Really. I mean, you can hit dretches running on the ground.

Well that's easy : basilisk has mor grab and swipe range than the painsaw Just let the BS user run at you and if the server doesn't forget to check the basilisk grab, you'll have one BS stuck just out of range of you.

Does that really work? *checks stat thread* it does, awesome!

This wouldn't work with normal painsawers though, since crouching gets them close enough, right?

[Dj_Pong]

well yeah, i always rush to the OM with a bsuit and saw and nade ready to be thrown away. But it happend me a couple of times that mr. basil stands around th corner and grabs me...  :evil:

And i was playing today and was attacking a goon with saw... he ran backwards while i "rushed" in his head. But the only damage that was caused was by him.. so increasing the range of saw a LITTLE not even that much... would (imo) increase the stability of saw/game.

[Seffylight]

The saw, much like the blaster, just isn't meant to be used as a real weapon.

[kevlarman]

so increasing the range of saw a LITTLE not even that much... would (imo) increase the stability of saw/game.

and it would make saw users impossible to kill because it does damage faster than anything else in the game, the only reason that aliens can kill inteligent saw users is because they have twice the range of the saw.

[kozak6]

   

That's especially true of the Adv Mara zap.

I find it extremely cool that the basi is actually useful against painsaw bsuits.

It must be embarassing, sitting there for 34 bites.

[kevlarman]

   

That's especially true of the Adv Mara zap.

I find it extremely cool that the basi is actually useful against painsaw bsuits.

It must be embarassing, sitting there for 34 bites.

more like 5, then the tyrant walks up and steals the kill

[Rippy]

I don't see any way of fixing the situation, either. Basi range is fine, it'd be dumb to decrease it for that one bsuit+painsaw. Painsaw range is fine, allows aliens to outbite. Can't increase range and decrease damage, not without dramatically reducing the damage, because then aliens wouldn't be able to take one on due to the much higher damage of painsaw.

Possible solution: have the left mouse button act as a "jab" function. You move the saw forward, takes about a second to jab and then 2 seconds cooldown. The jab increases your range to 64, which is the basi grabbing range, but only lasts for a short while (does damage for about 1/2 or 1/4 of a second)

Not only would that be useful against basis, it'd help out a bit in lots of situations.

But seriously, the best armour doesn't belong with the worst weapon you can buy. Either use a helmet and larmour, or save up for a decent weapon. (also, who uses the bsuit+saw combo and DOESN'T rush OM?)

[Stof]

mmh..i really doubt you can't hit a basi with ps and bs. Really. I mean, you can hit dretches running on the ground.

Well that's easy : basilisk has mor grab and swipe range than the painsaw Just let the BS user run at you and if the server doesn't forget to check the basilisk grab, you'll have one BS stuck just out of range of you.

Does that really work? *checks stat thread* it does, awesome!

This wouldn't work with normal painsawers though, since crouching gets them close enough, right?

It would work too, Basilisk and most aliens have some incredible attack range you know. Also, I use it mainly in small vents where the painsaw user thinks he can get me before I get him Crouching does not help you except exposing your head more.

[Kadreal]

If you get grabbed by a basi, just bust out your blaster.

[Rippy]

If you get grabbed by a basi, just bust out your blaster.

lol, pwned.

I dunno though, can a blaster deal 75 damage before the basi deals 100? I guess it depends on your armour, and if the basi maneuvers behind you so you can't hit him. Also can bsuits still turn while grabbed? If so, they'd outshoot a basi easy.

[Stof]

If you get grabbed by a basi, just bust out your blaster.

lol, pwned.

I dunno though, can a blaster deal 75 damage before the basi deals 100? I guess it depends on your armour, and if the basi maneuvers behind you so you can't hit him. Also can bsuits still turn while grabbed? If so, they'd outshoot a basi easy.

Yes, they can still turn. But if the BS user takes out it's blaster instead of the painsaw, it means reange has no more meaning for you and you can as well jump on his head which will guarantee the max damage per second possible.

Still, against a BS which uses the blaster and the medikit, I'm not sure you'll win that fight Crappy basilisk

[kevlarman]

If you get grabbed by a basi, just bust out your blaster.

lol, pwned.

I dunno though, can a blaster deal 75 damage before the basi deals 100? I guess it depends on your armour, and if the basi maneuvers behind you so you can't hit him. Also can bsuits still turn while grabbed? If so, they'd outshoot a basi easy.

Yes, they can still turn. But if the BS user takes out it's blaster instead of the painsaw, it means reange has no more meaning for you and you can as well jump on his head which will guarantee the max damage per second possible.

Still, against a BS which uses the blaster and the medikit, I'm not sure you'll win that fight Crappy basilisk

if the lisk jumps on your head (or moves at all really), you grab the saw again and kill it in one second

[Juno]

I dunno though, can a blaster deal 75 damage before the basi deals 100?

blaster does 10 damage a shot i think, so 8 shots and the basi is dead



i think :-?

[Lava Croft]

Ha ha ha.

[stahlsau]

yo, Lava, you're my second favourite troll, right after bevelier12

[Odin]

I've always thought that the painsaw might have too short of a hit range. I mean, the dretch can hit further than the painsaw can, but the painsaw is longer. That doesn't make sense.

[kozak6]

Painsaw is fine.

[kevlarman]

I've always thought that the painsaw might have too short of a hit range. I mean, the dretch can hit further than the painsaw can, but the painsaw is longer. That doesn't make sense.

it also wouldn't make sense for a crouching human to be able to instantly kill any aliens that tried to approach him.

[FX-Arch]

I've always thought that the painsaw might have too short of a hit range. I mean, the dretch can hit further than the painsaw can, but the painsaw is longer. That doesn't make sense.

it also wouldn't make sense for a crouching human to be able to instantly kill any aliens that tried to approach him.

Or a dretch eating to a b-suit.

[Dj_Pong]

Possible solution: have the left mouse button act as a "jab" function. You move the saw forward, takes about a second to jab and then 2 seconds cooldown. The jab increases your range to 64, which is the basi grabbing range, but only lasts for a short while (does damage for about 1/2 or 1/4 of a second)

Well that would be a nice solution   2nd attack, chainsaw stab!