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WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM

Started by /dev/humancontroller, September 04, 2012, 03:17:22 PM

/dev/humancontroller

RED ALERT !

it appears that the forums are being attacked by a bunch of bots !

i don't know what the bots' plans are, but:
- they're posting generic messages, such as "hi, i am <...>" and "i really like this site", among other bot-like cut-ups of websearch-yielded results, such as "Tremulous is a game that <...>".
- they're not interacting with anyone: they reply to random topics, but never reply to messages directed at them.
- they're replying to dead topics.
- they're exhibiting epic communication failures, which provoke corrections and controversy; unfortunately, this may appear to be the cause of retardedness, but i'll tell you: this can be attributed to "botism".
- it has surprized me that they still haven't edited their posts to contain advertisements (which would be a common sp4mbot practice).

the net result is that the forums become full of posts that are for the sake of being posted. sp4m like this reprehensible even if posted in the Off-topic section.

the 4 bots i see are: Mailosh, Juicklly, Eugener, and Stewarren. these accounts have common patterns:
- all have registered recently (in the last month).
- (as i already said) they have a common behavior.
- they have a common MSN address pattern: <first_name>.<last_name><random_number>@yahoo.com.
- two of the said bots, Juicklly and Mailosh have the same MSN address.

CreatureofHell

{NoS}StalKer
Quote<Timbo> posting on the trem forums rarely results in anything good

Ingar


RAKninja-Decepticon

Quote from: CreatureofHell on September 04, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
At least there's some forum activity...
...and the bots in question are more entertaining than a great deal of the userbase.
Note 4: The best, although not always easiest, way to deal with trolls is thus: do not respond at ALL in the thread.
Main Rules
4.) No spamming or advertising (includes useless multi-posts and bumps.)
6b.) Do NOT harass other members.
  6c.) Do NOT troll!

vcxzet

Nothing unusual. It happens to the forums of dead games.


Dracone

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/dev/humancontroller

Quote from: /dev/humancontroller on September 04, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
it has surprized me that they still haven't edited their posts to contain advertisements

Quote from: Se7en on September 05, 2012, 08:23:24 AM
Quote from: /dev/humancontroller on September 04, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
surprized

WRONG
how the fuck do you know whether i am surprized or not? i know myself better than you.


JOURNEYMAN

Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
Grab reality by the balls and squeeeeze!


/dev/humancontroller

Quote from: JOURNEYMAN on September 06, 2012, 01:07:13 PM
Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
WRONG. what do you think is currently in use?

Celestial_Rage

#11
A custom question might be more fruitful. "Name the alien builder class" or something of the like.
"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" ~Mark Twain

vcxzet

Quote from: Celestial_Rage on September 06, 2012, 02:31:21 PM
A custom question might be more fruitful. "Name the alien builder class" or something if the like.
Actually captcha the question, spambots probably will enter the question.
or
Use plain text for the question and place random captchas that are not the answers.
or
Distribute the question in randomly ordered captchas

RAKninja-Decepticon

Quote from: /dev/humancontroller on September 06, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
Quote from: JOURNEYMAN on September 06, 2012, 01:07:13 PM
Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
WRONG. what do you think is currently in use?
fairy dust and good intentions?
Note 4: The best, although not always easiest, way to deal with trolls is thus: do not respond at ALL in the thread.
Main Rules
4.) No spamming or advertising (includes useless multi-posts and bumps.)
6b.) Do NOT harass other members.
  6c.) Do NOT troll!

CorSair

When new user posts, mods/admins must approve their first post(s) and topic(s). Crude, but very effective nonetheless. (Excluding the effectiveness of moderator/administrator.)

jr2

OK, how about an animated captcha that scrolls the question across the captcha window.  The entire question is not present in any one frame, so maybe that would help.
Signature can be found here at Hard Light Productions

Nux

Clearly what we need is for each new user to single-handedly complete a unique ARG before they're allowed to register on our forums. Something like having a hidden hyperlink on the page that when clicked sends you to a blank page with Morse code playing in the background that transcribes into words from the PGP Word List which when decoded into hex gives a broken program that when fixed writes a second program that prints a hint to go to a location in Alaska where you will meet two men, one of whom cannot lie and...

/dev/humancontroller

Quote from: Celestial_Rage on September 06, 2012, 02:31:21 PM
A custom question might be more fruitful. "Name the alien builder class" or something of the like.
Quote from: some d00d who is about to register
wtf? i came here to find out more about the game. wtf is a class?
Quote from: some other d00d who is about to register
SPRECKEN ZE DUOTCH?

Quote from: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 06, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: /dev/humancontroller on September 06, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
Quote from: JOURNEYMAN on September 06, 2012, 01:07:13 PM
Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
WRONG. what do you think is currently in use?
fairy dust and good intentions?
WRONG. currently in use are: captchas.

Quote from: CorSair on September 06, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
When new user posts, mods/admins must approve their first post(s) and topic(s). Crude, but very effective nonetheless.
WRONG. in this particular case, i reported (on IRC) the existence of all 4 bots (to Ingar, a forum admin), mentioning the high probability of sp4m (future post editing), but after he read the posts of the bots, he strongly believed that the bots were real people and did not intend to sp4m. just as many other users on this forum believed (and not just any users, but regulars, who should be experienced in forum behavior).

your face

#18
Quote from: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 04, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: CreatureofHell on September 04, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
At least there's some forum activity...
...and the bots in question are more entertaining than a great deal of the userbase.
yes very true A+ for figuring out I award thee the crown of wowoowwowowow congratulations you are onto something here wow you are amazing

wait OH CRAP we don't HAVE a userbase!!!!!!!!!!

WOW!
SHOCKING NEWS.


(atleast the bots have nicer things to say than devhc/rakninja [has anyone checked their ips yet to make sure they aren't the same person?] anyways  :police:. i mean if i was stuck in a room and i could pick between devhc/rakninja and a bot it would definitely be a bot. just sayin')
Quote from: dolby on February 19, 2003, 06:44:44 PM
spam spam spam, waste waste waste!

Qrntz


Quote from: {FoT|PeDrO} on December 14, 2011, 02:07:41 PMYou make up Qrntz, u always angry, just calmdown. :police:
Quote from: Loki on March 13, 2013, 10:27:57 AMI am stupid idiot who dares to open mouth and start debating

RAKninja-Decepticon

Quote from: your face on September 07, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 04, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: CreatureofHell on September 04, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
At least there's some forum activity...
...and the bots in question are more entertaining than a great deal of the userbase.
yes very true A+ for figuring out I award thee the crown of wowoowwowowow congratulations you are onto something here wow you are amazing

wait OH CRAP we don't HAVE a userbase!!!!!!!!!!

WOW!
SHOCKING NEWS.


(atleast the bots have nicer things to say than devhc/rakninja [has anyone checked their ips yet to make sure they aren't the same person?] anyways  :police:. i mean if i was stuck in a room and i could pick between devhc/rakninja and a bot it would definitely be a bot. just sayin')


:police: 6c  :police:

in addition, you are a mod, you should be able to see ips yourself.  if i didnt know better, i would say that you were harassing me.
Note 4: The best, although not always easiest, way to deal with trolls is thus: do not respond at ALL in the thread.
Main Rules
4.) No spamming or advertising (includes useless multi-posts and bumps.)
6b.) Do NOT harass other members.
  6c.) Do NOT troll!

your face

wow you must be sherlock

must be that super hardcore army training they put you through.  :D
Quote from: dolby on February 19, 2003, 06:44:44 PM
spam spam spam, waste waste waste!

Nux

Quote from: your face on September 07, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
(atleast the bots have nicer things to say than devhc/rakninja [has anyone checked their ips yet to make sure they aren't the same person?] anyways  :police:. i mean if i was stuck in a room and i could pick between devhc/rakninja and a bot it would definitely be a bot. just sayin')

Considering the arguments those two get into, I'm going to presume it isn't one person with DID. Besides if I were going to accuse two users of being the same person I would go with devhc and vcxzet: Though I'm fairly sure they're separate people too, at least they seem to share viewpoints more often.

I'll also say that I still don't see much point in making the decline of these forums a talking point / excuse to drop what standards we had. It should really be a case of being civil with the few people who care to stick around and chat: Not for the sake of the survival of these forums but for the sake of civility itself.

your face

wait, these forums had standards at one point?

but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
Quote from: dolby on February 19, 2003, 06:44:44 PM
spam spam spam, waste waste waste!

RAKninja-Decepticon

Quote from: your face on September 08, 2012, 12:02:24 AM
wait, these forums had standards at one point?

but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
why do you have this raging hard-on for me anyway?
Note 4: The best, although not always easiest, way to deal with trolls is thus: do not respond at ALL in the thread.
Main Rules
4.) No spamming or advertising (includes useless multi-posts and bumps.)
6b.) Do NOT harass other members.
  6c.) Do NOT troll!

Flux

guise just give devhc moderator/admin privileges and he can take care of all this for us.

GRATE  :o :o $$$$$$$$$$

/dev/humancontroller

Quote from: your face on September 08, 2012, 12:02:24 AM
I hereby resign my moderatorship.
unfortunately for me, i have option but to accept the offer to take your moderatorship. :P

CreatureofHell

Quote from: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 08, 2012, 06:09:41 AM
Quote from: your face on September 08, 2012, 12:02:24 AM
wait, these forums had standards at one point?

but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
why do you have this raging hard-on for me anyway?


Juggalo clowns are all he ever thinks about nowadays.
{NoS}StalKer
Quote<Timbo> posting on the trem forums rarely results in anything good

vcxzet


your face

Quote from: dolby on February 19, 2003, 06:44:44 PM
spam spam spam, waste waste waste!