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« on: October 09, 2006, 04:03:59 am »
North Korea has nukes, or at least an unconfirmed announcement from the AP and Korean govt officials:

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/10/08/391242-north-korea-says-nuclear-test-successful


Might we have a nuclear war? This would be very scary if we did so, i would know, i spent 11 years in Los Alamos, NM.
I sure hope we dont. What are your opinions on this?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2006, 04:43:34 am »
*gulp*....

I am really really really glad we live on the East Coast of the USA right now...
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 07:51:38 am »
List of countries with Nuclear weapons

Country....Nb of Warheads.......Year of first test
................................................. .....................
China...........130........................1964 ("596")
India............75-115...................1974 ("Smiling Buddha")
Pakistan.......65-90.....................1998 ("Chagai-I")
North Korea..1-10.......................2006

(from : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_nuclear_weapons )

Did China nuked India ? NO
Did China nuked South Korea ? NO
Did China nuked Russia ? NO
Did China nuked US ? NO
Did India nuked Pakistan ? NO
Did Pakistan nuked India ? NO

Let's be realistic : Nuclear weapon is a weapon in the sense that it deters people from attacking you (if you attack me, i will do so much damage to your country that it will be as painful for you as for me). But launching one would be actually more painful to you than to your opponent (because it is considered an abomination so all the others countries will side with him) unless you can destroy all the armies in the world in a single strike.

Will North Korea nuke Japan/South Korea ? Probably not.

Enough said.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 07:57:45 am »
Ohnoes they're going to launch some missiles at the ocean again  :roll:
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 09:52:04 am »
where is iran and iraq? :P
nuclear weapons are "Oh I have overpowered weapon SO dont attack my country. Or we will send you a nuke whenever got the right weather. You know we are that stupid to launch our nuke when it winds towards our country from yours"
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2006, 12:36:34 pm »
pwned?
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2006, 04:44:35 pm »
Kim Jong Il is in a perfect little world. He gets to sit on his ass and pickup our  T.V shows from his satellites. He is a pampered little man with a Iron Fist over North Korea. Why would he want to ruin it? He wouldn't dare to attack anybody.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2006, 05:31:00 pm »
Update: Just to letcha all know, seems they tested that little sucker.

My army HQ just called me up for reservice (They're calling up reserves quietly here where I live) so I might have internet in camp but won't be able to do much with it.

Bloody bastards.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2006, 06:44:22 pm »
if they DO nuke, then we are screwed. But of course, then THEY are screwed too HAHA!
If we are going down! YOU ARE GOING DOWN TOO!!!  :evil:
But I really hope north korea doesn't attack south korea... it's my homeland  :(
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2006, 08:14:17 pm »
MAD basically.... they wont do shit
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2006, 08:47:40 pm »
Quote from: "holyknight"
if they DO nuke, then we are screwed. But of course, then THEY are screwed too HAHA!
If we are going down! YOU ARE GOING DOWN TOO!!!  :evil:
But I really hope north korea doesn't attack south korea... it's my homeland  :(

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2006, 10:14:10 pm »
I think I read that the damn thing was like 4 tons. Let see them put that into a missle warhead. Don't think so.

Kim Jung Il just wants the US to give him back his drug money in the overseas accounts we froze ages ago. He thinks we will want to bargain with him if he has a nuke. He is crazy, but not stupid, he won't use it on anyone.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2006, 10:45:43 pm »
wow, North Korea only has 1-10 nukes?
wow, Russia and US SURE has a lot! :roll:
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2006, 06:12:15 am »
KILO[/u]tons.  Of yield.  Not weight.

Quote from: "beerbitch"
he is crazy


Ah, but how crazy?  It's still something to worry about.

Even if he isn't crazy enough to fire off a missle (or deliver a nuke in any other manner), it's still very scary.

He could open up "Kim Jong Il's Nuclear Bomb and Lemonade Stand" and sell them to those who are crazy enough to do something.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2006, 06:33:04 am »
lol he should have an auction for the world
"USA WILL BUY ALL OF THEM FOR 1 cent!"

"PAKISTAN WILL BUY THEM ALL FOR A QUARTER!"

"SOME KID WILL BUY THEM ALL FOR A STRING!"
"SOLD!"

but yeah... to be serious... hope they don't do that
he could sell it to the evil genious like in James Bond
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2006, 07:20:08 am »
Quote from: "|Nex|TrEmMa"
Ohnoes they're going to launch some missiles at the ocean again  :roll:



:( Why does everyone keep picking on the poor defenceless water? If people don't stop it'll start getting really angry, and those big waves of whenever it was 'll be nothin' in comparison.

Just you watch *nod*.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2006, 03:03:30 pm »
meh all i see this as is just one huge global popularity contest between countries craving attention. instead of waving their dicks around their waving warheads and missles and testing nukes.

all i know if for some reason they target the state of Rhode Island (smallest state in us) were f'd and would be wiped off the face of the USA. but y would they want to target such a small random state anyway??

but never say that they would most likely not use the nukes.. there are crazy people in the world. u never know. lets just hope this shit doesnt get out of hand. always too much shit going on in too many different places. sometimes its hard to keep up with it all  :(
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2006, 03:18:02 pm »
yes, let's say they have 10 nukes, none of which are a lot more powerful than the ones that were dropped in 1945 and they're not even able to get them to the us yet. That isn't an offensive arsenal, it's a defensive one and it tells anyone that wants to invade to better spread out them damn ships in the carriers groups and not build any large bases nearby.
Do you people forget that russia and the us have far more? 10 nukes won't bring about MAD since it'll go 10 ways at max and all the other nukes would be oneway north korea ones. And you don't blanket the country but you hit the concentrations of troops. It might be messy if it would ever happen but total destruction? not yet.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2006, 07:33:30 pm »
They can get them to America, no problem.  Even if their missiles are still shitty, they could ship one into a port and blow it up, truck it up through Mexico, do something along the lines of "The Sum of All Fears," etc.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2006, 09:48:34 pm »
That is what they are aiming for yes. At least having the mention of a threat to America's home soil so that they won't attack N korea for the tiniest bit. But there's no real use in exporting a weapon to a nation you can't conquer or truly damage with one or even several nukes when it is far more efficient in the defense of your own. A terrorist organisation is far more likely to use that tactic than a country who has something which needs defending.
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2006, 02:49:25 am »
I say we nuke their corrupted country and get on with our lives. Then they can understand what useless hatred is like.
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2006, 10:58:59 am »
LET'S WHACK E'M WITH MY HUGE PHALLUS!!111one

 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

but, seriously, why worry about nuclear war when it's so ridicolously damaging noone would consider using it.

biological warfare is much scarier, and probably more probable.
 D:
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2006, 04:01:34 pm »
well my other thought is that we should just pwn north korea by

1) getting  :human: 's and  :battlesuit: 's to take out their anti air defenses

2) then take cargo planes and drop massive  :dretch: 's till the koreans feed them to s3 when

3)  :tyrant: 's rampage the rest of korea and an  adv :dragoon: snipes Kim Jong Il  in the balls.....if he has any
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2006, 05:26:56 pm »
Quote from: "kozak6"
KILO[/u]tons.  Of yield.  Not weight.

Quote from: "beerbitch"
he is crazy


Ah, but how crazy?  It's still something to worry about.

Even if he isn't crazy enough to fire off a missle (or deliver a nuke in any other manner), it's still very scary.

He could open up "Kim Jong Il's Nuclear Bomb and Lemonade Stand" and sell them to those who are crazy enough to do something.


No, I read it was 4 tons in WEIGHT which means, no practical way to deploy on missle warheads. They would have to fly it over their target with a cargo plane. Plus, people are saying that it might not have even been a nuke, they might have just detonated a bunch of TNT to make us all think they did a nuke test.

And he is crazy, but he wants to continue his reign and control over his little peice of the world. If he provokes anyone into a military confrontation, he knows his days are numbered. Not only that, but even Russia and China are getting tired of their crap.

I have in-laws living in Incheon, S.Korea. Their biggest fear right now over there is that the U.S. will attack N.Korea and cause a war, but it looks like thats not going to happen. We will just block all naval traffic and stop them from making money.... or maybe send them threatening letters and Hans Blix.
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2006, 06:13:49 pm »
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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2006, 10:01:27 pm »
... North Korea is not exactly in the real world like the rest of those countries.. I doubt they would nuke anyone.. but thats not the issue.. N.K. loves the terrorists and has no qualms about giving them stuff..  
The big thing is.. the world does not like this because they are fkin nuts in NK.. They might use this to bully people, they might leak it to iran.. which is also nuts and might want to go ahead and bomb some small country and trust god to stop MAD etc etc etc.. most of this speculation is because it is widely expected that someone DO something about it..  they won't talk.. so that doesn't leave many options. China is pissed, Japan has put them on lockdown.. maybe we can kill their program with economics (they don't have anything as it is).. but if we can't.. then if anyone.. i can see them doing somethign rash with a nuke if we(allies.. not the US alone for once.. because this is a world problem) have to invade.

MAD is fkin stupid..  THAT should worry you that we have to rely on it to be safe.. because if you are on the verge of beating a country with nukes with nothing left to loose.. they might not mind launching off a few at the last minute.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2006, 01:05:20 am »
:P
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-------------Has any-one seen "Team America"------------------
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2006, 03:33:20 am »
hahaha Team America is weird.
But that's really stupid...
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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2006, 05:39:46 am »
Quote from: "holyknight"
hahaha Team America is weird.
But that's really stupid...


I swear he watched it.

"Nor yor shink so smar... nine eleven times one hundred twenty three thousand four hundred and fifty six"

"my god, thats... thats, i don't even know how much that is!"

besides where did he get the nules from? see the movie to find out.
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2006, 05:57:18 am »
Lets compare the size of the countries


on the map it points out south korrea (sorry bouts that, best map i could find) if you look closley just abouve it you will see north korea, which is just about the same size as south korea

Now Lets Look over to the us

You see a majour diffirence in the size of the us and north korea, there would be a little bit of a problem trying to blow the U.S Off the map, not hard to blow north korea of the map....

Im just an australian teenager and dont take much notice of this kinda stuff, but im 100 percent sure that if war breaks out, autralia will be on the U.S side

no doubts there


And Really, whos going to help korea, uh no one thats right...
Teehee, korea is small
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